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Alex Arthur wants to fight Khan.

Boxing Edinburgh's former WBO superfeatherweight champion Alex Arthur will step up to lightweight in a desperate attempt to secure a clash with Bolton star Amir Khan.

Arthur makes his lightweight debut in May and says: "I have watched Khan's career closely and I have seen many ways to beat him - I just want the opportunity."

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/more-spor ... -21237880/

I think its a good natural next fight for Khan

Arthur
Murray - Khan stands him on his head, too fast

Then Romanov for me

BABY BLUE wrote:yes the problem with khan is his chin. yes he has improved under roach. the win over MAB proves nothing to me. wait till he face romovou or Diaz .he will in for a nasty suprise though. or Funeka .he would take khan to skool though. i mean even if its murray for the britsh title. nah i reakon warren wants him to take thr european title first though.beofre going for the world title shot.

No one is "going to take Khan to school". He might get knocked out, but I can't see anyone outboxing him, he's too fast, especially an old puncher like Funeka.

I love him, beautiful boxer, BUT he's NOT a lightweight and is "chinny", put him where he belongs and with fellow top fighters and see how he comes out.

Boxing's had enough of manipulated, protected and political champions

stevie82 wrote:who would you like to see amir khan fight next and why ???

katsidis or casamayor would be good fights for khan now, he still hasnt been tested since prescott but diaz and marquez would make him look like a novice!

Arthur-Khan makes a lot of sense. After that I'd like to see him fight either Romanov or Prescott. If he wins those then maybe he'll be ready for a world title fight.

Khan vs Arthur - interim WBO title... I'm telling you.

picko wrote:

stevie82 wrote:who would you like to see amir khan fight next and why ???

katsidis or casamayor would be good fights for khan now, he still hasnt been tested since prescott but diaz and marquez would make him look like a novice!

Can you tell me why you think Katsidis is a good idea?

If you were Khan's manager, you would put him in with Katsidis? Why?

Can you tell me why you think Katsidis is a good idea?

If you were Khan's manager, you would put him in with Katsidis? Why?[/quote]

Too jump in on this one , its simple because Kasidas is rough , ready ,but not a very good boxer alls he brings to the table is determination , nothing else , and if you can't beat Kasidas you have no right being ppv , in fact iff Fwank puts options on Kasidas and he sparks chinny out well we can make Kasidas a honary greek /Aussie/ Englishman and make him PPV.

carbo wrote:Can you tell me why you think Katsidis is a good idea?

If you were Khan's manager, you would put him in with Katsidis? Why?

coneye wrote:Too jump in on this one , its simple because Kasidas is rough , ready ,but not a very good boxer alls he brings to the table is determination , nothing else , and if you can't beat Kasidas you have no right being ppv , in fact iff Fwank puts options on Kasidas and he sparks chinny out well we can make Kasidas a honary greek /Aussie/ Englishman and make him PPV.

So, if you were Khan's promoter, you would put him in against a hardened, agressive banger?

That's why you're a internet imbecile and Warren's a successful promoter, I suppose, but I'm disappointed that you would think that would a suitable fight at all. I suspect you really want to so Khan sparked, but if the goal is to bring him along, make as much money as possible, and deliver a world title fight, Katsidis makes no sense.

stujones wrote:Khan vs Arthur - interim WBO title... I'm telling you.

another superfeather.. 8) drubbed by Gomez and lost to Cook. A step up?

stujones wrote:Khan vs Arthur - interim WBO title... I'm telling you.

Totally agree, and think Khan would beat him pretty easily.....

Carbo wrote: So, if you were Khan's promoter, you would put him in against a hardened, agressive banger?

That's why you're a internet imbecile and Warren's a successful promoter, I suppose, but I'm disappointed that you would think that would a suitable fight at all. I suspect you really want to so Khan sparked, but if the goal is to bring him along, make as much money as possible, and deliver a world title fight, Katsidis makes no sense.

I think it's a little harsh to dismiss someone as an internet imbecile just because they dare to suggest a tough opponent for Amir. I know boxing is a business but Amir cannot be wet nursed forever.

The fact is, since he was destroyed by Prescott, Khan has faced a limited slugger in Fagan, and scored a highly tainted victory over a man effectively fighting with one eye. So in 6 months and his last three fights, I'd hardly say Khan has earned a crack at a world title.

Also throw into the mix that Khan is fighting exclusively on PPV and times are hard, then we can safely say this can only continue in the long run if Khan is given fights that will be worth paying for. Katsidis would be perfect. Yes he's tough and strong, but he's also exciting and unrefined, he's a fighter that Khan could beat and earn some decent props doing so. Not only that, but the fight is likely to be exciting, edge of the seat stuff. Maybe a little risky but if Khan has learned anything since Prescott then he should be able to beat Katsidis and earn some respect along the way.

Your post suggests you have no real faith in Amir's ability, and you think the only way to bring Khan on and "make as much money as possible" would be to put him in against easy targets. The public won't buy that forever, so the sooner he starts showing his abilities against higher calibre opposition the better.

Plus isn't that what a champion's supposed to be - able, willing and ready to fight ANYBODY in their division!

quite right DaveyH and those expecting the same of 'top' fighters!

I'm not an internet imbicle ya facking wanker , what i am is a boxing fan who is sick too death off being pissed on and told its raining. .

You may like the idea off Warren ripping people off and makinhg a mouthy little 20 year old a millionaare while theres good honest fighters who struggle for a decent payday , but the facts are if he cannot beat a raw fighter like Kasidas he don't deserve the money or the allocades wankers like you throw at him .

And by the way except for his last few fights Kasidas had fought no one off note , and in the last few he's not excatly turned the world on fire he's just proved that he his a tough guy who's gonna make a few quid getting beat by the top guys .

coneye wrote:I'm not an internet imbicle ya facking wanker , what i am is a boxing fan who is sick too death off being pissed on and told its raining. .

You may like the idea off Warren ripping people off and makinhg a mouthy little 20 year old a millionaare while theres good honest fighters who struggle for a decent payday , but the facts are if he cannot beat a raw fighter like Kasidas he don't deserve the money or the allocades wankers like you throw at him .

And by the way except for his last few fights Kasidas had fought no one off note , and in the last few he's not excatly turned the world on fire he's just proved that he his a tough guy who's gonna make a few quid getting beat by the top guys .

Katsidis has proved that he can compete with World class boxers. He's only just below that level at the moment.

What amazes me about all this is FW is almost admitting that the only way Khan can win a world title is if he is put in with the "right" opponents. Although it's a piss poor way to treat us boxing fans, you can see why a promoter would do it because it makes them money. While ever people are forking out for the PPV's to watch carefully selected mismatches, there's a market for it.

But what I really don't understand is so called boxing fans coming out and saying it's acceptable or even worthy of praise for a "good promoter" like FW to continue pushing this kind of rip off on the fans. The end product is a select few people get rich, the fans get ripped off, the sport (and British boxing in particular) is made to look a mockery and a genuinely talented kid misses out on any sort of legacy because he chose the "big money, easy path, zero credibilty" route.

and worse 20 years from now when they compare these Protected False Prodigies against the "real" greats who NEVER got their chance, the real greats suffer anonymity further yet.

Top men fight the Top men, is that too much to ask and to all of you who think it's good business and 'just' boxing, "what the _ucks wrong with you, don't you believe the best shoulded be capable of meeting fellow top fighters???"

FW is taking us for mugs, he matched Khan 2 fights after gettin KTFO with BARRERA, how dare he insult our intelligence

not only that but he hacked a poll on the boxrec forum and gave Barrea treble the votes to win by KO, to make us believe it was a fair fight

why couldnt he match him with billy smith, he comes to fight

Acording to most internet imbiciles YOU LISTENING GARBO being took for mugs and asked to spend money to watch mismatches and help get a select one or two to millionare status and a select couple off promoters too multi multi millionare status is all good management

Next Garbo will be saying Man utd , Chelsea , and LIverpool should all drop dowm too division 3 and we'll be better off because they won't lose and its good management.

DaveyH wrote:What amazes me about all this is FW is almost admitting that the only way Khan can win a world title is if he is put in with the "right" opponents. Although it's a piss poor way to treat us boxing fans, you can see why a promoter would do it because it makes them money. While ever people are forking out for the PPV's to watch carefully selected mismatches, there's a market for it.

But what I really don't understand is so called boxing fans coming out and saying it's acceptable or even worthy of praise for a "good promoter" like FW to continue pushing this kind of rip off on the fans. The end product is a select few people get rich, the fans get ripped off, the sport (and British boxing in particular) is made to look a mockery and a genuinely talented kid misses out on any sort of legacy because he chose the "big money, easy path, zero credibilty" route.

Errr... that's his job, you know. If he was to throw Khan in with the people you would want, Khan would be justified in firing him for gross misconduct. Warren is Khan's manager, in effect, and his job is to make Khan the most money possible. Simple.

As a promoter, his job is intrinsicly linked to providing fans what they want on a consistent basis, which he did do, given the gate at the last Khan fight.

Of course, these two roles clash, which is why I favour a mandate which would ban promoters managing, and vice versa, but the point is this: as manger, Warren is there to maximise Khan's income. If he didn't do that, KHan would go to someone who would.

Bear in mind, that Khan has a career to think of. Putting him in against Marquez would be a little like putting you in charge of the fries: first you need to learn by washing the floors, mopping the toilet floors, and perhaps helping with the mcnuggets, and then you can be put in charge of the fries. Similarly, KHan, only on his 22nd fight, might need some rounding. Like Andre Berto. You can't throw them in with killers after ther 13th fight. You want to mature and develop these guys. You want to make them into boxers who have a better than even chance of actually winning the big fights.

sweetscience wrote:FW is taking us for mugs, he matched Khan 2 fights after gettin KTFO with BARRERA, how dare he insult our intelligence

not only that but he hacked a poll on the boxrec forum and gave Barrea treble the votes to win by KO, to make us believe it was a fair fight

why couldnt he match him with billy smith, he comes to fight

:)

Carbo wrote:

DaveyH wrote:What amazes me about all this is FW is almost admitting that the only way Khan can win a world title is if he is put in with the "right" opponents. Although it's a piss poor way to treat us boxing fans, you can see why a promoter would do it because it makes them money. While ever people are forking out for the PPV's to watch carefully selected mismatches, there's a market for it.

But what I really don't understand is so called boxing fans coming out and saying it's acceptable or even worthy of praise for a "good promoter" like FW to continue pushing this kind of rip off on the fans. The end product is a select few people get rich, the fans get ripped off, the sport (and British boxing in particular) is made to look a mockery and a genuinely talented kid misses out on any sort of legacy because he chose the "big money, easy path, zero credibilty" route.

Errr... that's his job, you know. If he was to throw Khan in with the people you would want, Khan would be justified in firing him for gross misconduct. Warren is Khan's manager, in effect, and his job is to make Khan the most money possible. Simple.

As a promoter, his job is intrinsicly linked to providing fans what they want on a consistent basis, which he did do, given the gate at the last Khan fight.

Of course, these two roles clash, which is why I favour a mandate which would ban promoters managing, and vice versa, but the point is this: as manger, Warren is there to maximise Khan's income. If he didn't do that, KHan would go to someone who would.

Bear in mind, that Khan has a career to think of. Putting him in against Marquez would be a little like putting you in charge of the fries: first you need to learn by washing the floors, mopping the toilet floors, and perhaps helping with the mcnuggets, and then you can be put in charge of the fries. Similarly, KHan, only on his 22nd fight, might need some rounding. Like Andre Berto. You can't throw them in with killers after ther 13th fight. You want to mature and develop these guys. You want to make them into boxers who have a better than even chance of actually winning the big fights.

You hit the nail on the head, what cap is who wearing ,

I agree with the guy who was baffled by Warren's total failure to even try and disguise his thought process of giving Khan the path of least resistance. Even people who don't understand boxing can tell what he is saying when he mentions these 'right fights' and 'right times'.

And to those people who say the Barrera fight was 'a stroke of genius' by Warren - do these guys actually condone this fraud and his fraudulent fighter? Not to mention the fact that it doesn't take a f**king genius to identify the one marquee name who is shot/past it who is likely to take the fight. I could probably have done it if I was given Warren's brief. Then he goes and says 'I think we got him at the right time!' Duhhhhh!

People can say 'This is a business and Warren has to make money' all they want. Doesn't change the fact that all the biggest promoters in the world are regularly making big fights while this clown is sat in England working his bum of the month regime for a living, while a real UK promoter (Mick Hennessey) is doing twice as good for boxing with half the resources.

Having said this, I understand Warren's problem. The simple solution is to conclude that he doesn't have a fighter on his hands. He has the hype, he even has the controversy. Now is the time to use that momentum to cash in his chips and work for that big fight with Marquez or whoever. Shouldn't be too difficult. Marquez has all the incentive in the world to take it; easy win, nice money, against a big name. Will Warren see sense? Will he f**k.

Terry D wrote:In the case of Khan his 0 was blown asunder, and he struggled mightily in the Limond fight, so the writing on the wall suggests that he is going to have huge struggles with pretty much any decent fresh fighter that he faces, as long as they do not panic themselves.

khan struggled v's Limmond for about 40 secs out of of the 1400 secs the fight lasted

Ive said it before Khans main problem (except the chin) is his defence, he hasnt needed one since being 11, whether it be in a fight or sparring, so he has never developed one.

now with him being in the US with the tough sparring and not being the top dog in the gym his defence should improve and this will make him a better fighter