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Re: Dunne Vs Munroe??

Posted: 24 Mar 2009, 14:40
by mark thompson
sligobhoy67 wrote:
mark thompson wrote:Yeah but thats just promoters talking isn't it ? I mean look at Hennesy with Tyson Fury, its just a hype job. I think Maloney saw Dunne as a threat that Munroe didnt need to take at the time, he could make a couple of fairly easy money voluntary's to earn his guy a good few quid before the big threat of the Martinez rematch, now Munroe has got through them fights he needs to be fighting people of at least the standard of Martinez, and with Dunne winning he is maybe entitled to a couple of so called gimme's, but then the fight is a must for me whether Dunne loses his belt in the meantime or not :box:

Wheres your family live then Slingo ?
Desford.

I know its just promoters talk but I think that Moloney was unecessarily harsh - anyway, it didnt really bother me but I know it annoyed others - those kind of antics arent really the Irish way if you know what I mean.

I think Dunne would paste Martinez in a rematch - I genuinely do - I always did and this was before his display on the weekend.

Dunne wont have much chance to coin it in from "easy voluntaries" because he has to face the mandatory challenger in 7 months!

Well he may aswell fight Munroe in the meantime then hadn't he :lol: :lol: ,

I live in Narborough only about 2mins from Desford

Re: Dunne Vs Munroe??

Posted: 24 Mar 2009, 14:55
by slapbangwhallop
mark thompson wrote:
sligobhoy67 wrote:
mark thompson wrote:Yeah but thats just promoters talking isn't it ? I mean look at Hennesy with Tyson Fury, its just a hype job. I think Maloney saw Dunne as a threat that Munroe didnt need to take at the time, he could make a couple of fairly easy money voluntary's to earn his guy a good few quid before the big threat of the Martinez rematch, now Munroe has got through them fights he needs to be fighting people of at least the standard of Martinez, and with Dunne winning he is maybe entitled to a couple of so called gimme's, but then the fight is a must for me whether Dunne loses his belt in the meantime or not :box:

Wheres your family live then Slingo ?
Desford.

I know its just promoters talk but I think that Moloney was unecessarily harsh - anyway, it didnt really bother me but I know it annoyed others - those kind of antics arent really the Irish way if you know what I mean.

I think Dunne would paste Martinez in a rematch - I genuinely do - I always did and this was before his display on the weekend.

Dunne wont have much chance to coin it in from "easy voluntaries" because he has to face the mandatory challenger in 7 months!

Well he may aswell fight Munroe in the meantime then hadn't he :lol: :lol: ,

I live in Narborough only about 2mins from Desford
I think either Martinez or Munroe are the best options for his first defense - both are beatable.

However, Martinez better known amongest the Irish public and no doubt he would also be a lot cheaper!

Re: Dunne Vs Munroe??

Posted: 25 Mar 2009, 13:56
by metropol
sligobhoy67 wrote:

I think either Martinez or Munroe are the best options for his first defense - both are beatable.

However, Martinez better known amongest the Irish public and no doubt he would also be a lot cheaper!
Dont you think munroe is the much more worthy opponent? Munroe has beaten martinez twice and martinez is coming of a loss

Re: Dunne Vs Munroe??

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 08:07
by slapbangwhallop
metropol wrote:
sligobhoy67 wrote:

I think either Martinez or Munroe are the best options for his first defense - both are beatable.

However, Martinez better known amongest the Irish public and no doubt he would also be a lot cheaper!
Dont you think munroe is the much more worthy opponent? Munroe has beaten martinez twice and martinez is coming of a loss
without doubt Murnoe is more deserving. But as Buncey says ad nauseum "In boxing, you dont get what you deserve, you get what yuo negotiate"

Dunne didnt deserve his shot at Cordoba but he got it - Martinez doesnt deserve his shot but it makes financial sense to give him one.

Re: Dunne Vs Munroe??

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 10:40
by metropol
Maloneys after making the first offer of 150,000 on bunceys show.
What do we think?

Re: Dunne Vs Munroe??

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 10:42
by slapbangwhallop
metropol wrote:Maloneys after making the first offer of 150,000 on bunceys show.
What do we think?
what was the exact offer - did he offer Dunne £150k (or euros) to fight Munroe in Dublin/Englandshire?

Re: Dunne Vs Munroe??

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 10:51
by metropol
sligobhoy67 wrote:
metropol wrote:Maloneys after making the first offer of 150,000 on bunceys show.
What do we think?
what was the exact offer - did he offer Dunne £150k (or euros) to fight Munroe in Dublin/Englandshire?
Shit he said 150, 000 anyway. That was if he was to go to england.

Re: Dunne Vs Munroe??

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 10:54
by FtmPress
sligobhoy67 wrote:
metropol wrote:Maloneys after making the first offer of 150,000 on bunceys show.
What do we think?
what was the exact offer - did he offer Dunne £150k (or euros) to fight Munroe in Dublin/Englandshire?
Yes we have made an offer and will be senting it to Brain Peters today

Re: Dunne Vs Munroe??

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 10:56
by neil hibbert
FtmPress wrote:
sligobhoy67 wrote:
metropol wrote:Maloneys after making the first offer of 150,000 on bunceys show.
What do we think?
what was the exact offer - did he offer Dunne £150k (or euros) to fight Munroe in Dublin/Englandshire?
Yes we have made an offer and will be senting it to Brain Peters today
well done frank, saves all the bullshit flying round the forums now, the offers in the open now so lets just see what dunnes camp have to say. be good to see rendall with the world title round his waist

Re: Dunne Vs Munroe??

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 10:59
by metropol
is that in pounds or euro? That fight would sell better in Ireland , no?Btw did ya get any abuse of the crowd at the 02?

Re: Dunne Vs Munroe??

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 11:00
by DG.
neil hibbert wrote:

well done frank, saves all the bullshit flying round the forums now, the offers in the open now so lets just see what dunnes camp have to say. be good to see rendall with the world title round his waist
Yes, Munroe won't get a better chance of lifting the belt.

Munroe late stoppage or wide points.

Re: Dunne Vs Munroe??

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 11:02
by DG.
metropol wrote:is that in pounds or euro? That fight would sell better in Ireland , no?Btw did ya get any abuse of the crowd at the 02?

Makes no real difference with the current exchange rate there is only 10K in it.


:D

Re: Dunne Vs Munroe??

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 11:05
by metropol
DG. wrote:
metropol wrote:is that in pounds or euro? That fight would sell better in Ireland , no?Btw did ya get any abuse of the crowd at the 02?

Makes no real difference with the current exchange rate there is only 10K in it.


:D
Yeah i know its great for us but the pound is making a comeback i think.
I go for dunne on points. If the wba judges act the same as they did for the cordoba fight it will be hard for munroe to get the decision

Re: Dunne Vs Munroe??

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 11:10
by Cannibal
Well, there is no way that it happens in England. Frank's got in there with the first offer so he can drive up what probably would have been a low ball 100k offer from Brian Peters which is smart. I think it is more about upping the pay day for Rendall than taking the fight to England. I think Frank knows well that it has to happen in Dublin and is trying to get the best deal possible.

If the Cordoba fight was compared to McGuigan/Pedroza then I can see comparisons of Collins/Eubank for this one.

Out of curiosity, does anyone know what Dunne's biggest pay day is thus far?

Re: Dunne Vs Munroe??

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 11:18
by slapbangwhallop
FtmPress wrote:
sligobhoy67 wrote:
metropol wrote:Maloneys after making the first offer of 150,000 on bunceys show.
What do we think?
what was the exact offer - did he offer Dunne £150k (or euros) to fight Munroe in Dublin/Englandshire?
Yes we have made an offer and will be senting it to Brain Peters today
good man Frank - can you confirm if that was pounds or euros (not that that makes much of a difference these day - I should know I have a wedding to pay for in Ireland in September!!!) and if there were any other conditions attached.

Re: Dunne Vs Munroe??

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 11:20
by slapbangwhallop
metropol wrote:is that in pounds or euro? That fight would sell better in Ireland , no?Btw did ya get any abuse of the crowd at the 02?
I was sitting in the row behind Frank with Oisin Fagan for a while and I saw no abuse and most people just came up and shock his hand.

Re: Dunne Vs Munroe??

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 11:22
by slapbangwhallop
Cannibal wrote:Well, there is no way that it happens in England. Frank's got in there with the first offer so he can drive up what probably would have been a low ball 100k offer from Brian Peters which is smart. I think it is more about upping the pay day for Rendall than taking the fight to England. I think Frank knows well that it has to happen in Dublin and is trying to get the best deal possible.

If the Cordoba fight was compared to McGuigan/Pedroza then I can see comparisons of Collins/Eubank for this one.

Out of curiosity, does anyone know what Dunne's biggest pay day is thus far?
supposedly its was 76k (euros) and it was for his most recent fight - pretty low I thought - Cordoba got 200k

Dunne gets quite a bit more in sponsorship from Hunky Dorys (irish crisps) as well!

Re: Dunne Vs Munroe??

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 11:24
by metropol
sligobhoy67 wrote:
metropol wrote:
sligobhoy67 wrote:

I think either Martinez or Munroe are the best options for his first defense - both are beatable.

However, Martinez better known amongest the Irish public and no doubt he would also be a lot cheaper!
Dont you think munroe is the much more worthy opponent? Munroe has beaten martinez twice and martinez is coming of a loss
without doubt Murnoe is more deserving. But as Buncey says ad nauseum "In boxing, you dont get what you deserve, you get what yuo negotiate"

Dunne didnt deserve his shot at Cordoba but he got it - Martinez doesnt deserve his shot but it makes financial sense to give him one.
Martinez fight still makes the most sense.
How long , when talking about dunne to a casual fan does it take for the name martinez to come up? These same people wouldnt know who munroe is.
Who is martinez manager? Isnt he irish.

Re: Dunne Vs Munroe??

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 11:27
by slapbangwhallop
metropol wrote:
sligobhoy67 wrote:
metropol wrote: Dont you think munroe is the much more worthy opponent? Munroe has beaten martinez twice and martinez is coming of a loss
without doubt Murnoe is more deserving. But as Buncey says ad nauseum "In boxing, you dont get what you deserve, you get what yuo negotiate"

Dunne didnt deserve his shot at Cordoba but he got it - Martinez doesnt deserve his shot but it makes financial sense to give him one.
Martinez fight still makes the most sense.
How long , when talking about dunne to a casual fan does it take for the name martinez to come up? These same people wouldnt know who munroe is.
Who is martinez manager? Isnt he irish.
I would say half of the people in the stadium knew Munroe and less then 5% of those watching on TV audience. 100% know Kiko.

Yes Kiko has an Irish manager/promoter - cant think of his Byrne I think - cant remember - doh!

Re: Dunne Vs Munroe??

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 11:28
by metropol
sligobhoy67 wrote:
Cannibal wrote:Well, there is no way that it happens in England. Frank's got in there with the first offer so he can drive up what probably would have been a low ball 100k offer from Brian Peters which is smart. I think it is more about upping the pay day for Rendall than taking the fight to England. I think Frank knows well that it has to happen in Dublin and is trying to get the best deal possible.

If the Cordoba fight was compared to McGuigan/Pedroza then I can see comparisons of Collins/Eubank for this one.

Out of curiosity, does anyone know what Dunne's biggest pay day is thus far?
supposedly its was 76k (euros) and it was for his most recent fight - pretty low I thought - Cordoba got 200k

Dunne gets quite a bit more in sponsorship from Hunky Dorys (irish crisps) as well!
Ironically im eating a bag of hunky dorys ,buffalo. The crisp trade has been corrupted since the intro of walkers to ireland.

Re: Dunne Vs Munroe??

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 11:32
by Cannibal
Martinez needs to put together a couple of decent wins before that is even considered. I doubt the WBA would be happy with that fight.

Re: Dunne Vs Munroe??

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 11:33
by steve689
I like it when Peters has boxes of Hunky Dory's in the press room and at the ticket office :TU: Mmmmm

Re: Dunne Vs Munroe??

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 11:55
by Autobarn
Cannibal wrote:Well, there is no way that it happens in England. Frank's got in there with the first offer so he can drive up what probably would have been a low ball 100k offer from Brian Peters which is smart. I think it is more about upping the pay day for Rendall than taking the fight to England. I think Frank knows well that it has to happen in Dublin and is trying to get the best deal possible.

If the Cordoba fight was compared to McGuigan/Pedroza then I can see comparisons of Collins/Eubank for this one.

Out of curiosity, does anyone know what Dunne's biggest pay day is thus far?
Munroe as Eubank ?

Re: Dunne Vs Munroe??

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 12:01
by Autobarn
Boxing is a shifty business. Questions are usually sidestepped, at least direct ones. The indirect way would be to fight Munroe, fairly light hitter albeit with good strength and engine. Little risk of getting blasted in a round.

I honestly can't see Dunne fighting Kiko again. What if Kiko stops him again?

Why would they want to go back and address that, when Dunne has moved forward so far? In a fight he was hurt, proving he could survive and get the win...

I thin the main issue now is, who is The Man at 122-pounds? Most would say Vazquez though a strong case could be made for Caballero. Who is the least difficult to fight of the 2, who could - theoretically at least - be outboxed, outsped. Who gets sent to hospital every fight with busted nose, detached retina, numerous cuts? Tight at the weight also. Vazquez. Short, slow, but strong, powerful, awesomely persistent. Weighing it all up, Vazquez could be for the taking. In theory, Dunne has just the style to give Vazquez fits, and has shown world class toughness and composure also.

Is it worth the risk, Vazquez?

Re: Dunne Vs Munroe??

Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 12:03
by Cannibal
Autobarn wrote:
Cannibal wrote:Well, there is no way that it happens in England. Frank's got in there with the first offer so he can drive up what probably would have been a low ball 100k offer from Brian Peters which is smart. I think it is more about upping the pay day for Rendall than taking the fight to England. I think Frank knows well that it has to happen in Dublin and is trying to get the best deal possible.

If the Cordoba fight was compared to McGuigan/Pedroza then I can see comparisons of Collins/Eubank for this one.

Out of curiosity, does anyone know what Dunne's biggest pay day is thus far?
Munroe as Eubank ?
Yup. Although the role of Eubank is more being played by Maloney. There's the Ireland/England aspect, a world title on the line and a bit of back and forth in the build up.