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Posted: **14 Apr 2018, 14:22**

I'm on Bowen too, hearing it's a nap and looks that way from what I seen. I'd always rather be on the aggresor home fighters in this sort of scenario.

Posted: **14 Apr 2018, 19:00**

The Insider wrote: ↑13 Apr 2018, 13:53 Sam Bowen 1/2 win with various. Pile in.

Easy money

Thanks for posting

Posted: **14 Apr 2018, 19:01**

boxlocks wrote: ↑14 Apr 2018, 19:00
The Insider wrote: ↑13 Apr 2018, 13:53 Sam Bowen 1/2 win with various. Pile in.
Easy money

Thanks for posting

Posted: **14 Apr 2018, 20:05**

boxlocks wrote: ↑14 Apr 2018, 19:00
The Insider wrote: ↑13 Apr 2018, 13:53 Sam Bowen 1/2 win with various. Pile in.
Easy money

Thanks for posting

You're welcome.

Posted: **16 Apr 2018, 04:01**

Loud rumours that Gassiev-Usyk is being is being expensively switched to Russia.

Previously fancied Usyk, but can see it close enough to give to the home fighter. Gassiev at least 2/1 with most bookies.

Posted: **16 Apr 2018, 04:58**

Are you fellas all millionaires or something? Throwing 20's and 50's on bets at 8/15, I know the odds are in your favour but it's a lot to bloody lose for a 10 quid profit.

I'll just stick to winning 20-30 quid a week on my Lucky 15's and Goliaths from 1 pence stakes.

Posted: **16 Apr 2018, 05:30**

banjo wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 04:58 Are you fellas all millionaires or something? Throwing 20's and 50's on bets at 8/15, I know the odds are in your favour but it's a lot to bloody lose for a 10 quid profit.

I'll just stick to winning 20-30 quid a week on my Lucky 15's and Goliaths from 1 pence stakes.

That's a huge R.O.I.

If you're doing this consistently please post the bets up.

Posted: **16 Apr 2018, 06:04**

The Insider wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 05:30
banjo wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 04:58 Are you fellas all millionaires or something? Throwing 20's and 50's on bets at 8/15, I know the odds are in your favour but it's a lot to bloody lose for a 10 quid profit.

I'll just stick to winning 20-30 quid a week on my Lucky 15's and Goliaths from 1 pence stakes.
That's a huge R.O.I.

If you're doing this consistently please post the bets up.

No it's not consistent at all lol it's pure luck on my part, but every now and then a 25-1 horse comes in add that to a couple of 10-1's or 12-1's and you're on to a winner. But I'm doing about 5 goliaths a week and maybe a dozen Lucky 15's.

Posted: **18 Apr 2018, 03:43**

Donaire ko/tko/dq over Frampton @ 7/1

Frampton has been down many times in his career against lesser punchers than Donaire. I expect late stoppage.

Posted: **18 Apr 2018, 05:38**

mustlogin wrote: ↑18 Apr 2018, 03:43 Donaire ko/tko/dq over Frampton @ 7/1

Frampton has been down many times in his career against lesser punchers than Donaire. I expect late stoppage.

Plus Frampton going through court issues with Barry wont help

Posted: **20 Apr 2018, 16:57**

Masher Dodd to stop Tommy Coyle 7/1

Posted: **20 Apr 2018, 17:20**

I have mostly been focusing on MMA & kickboxing wagering, and haven't been following boxing as closely this year as I did last year, but it seems like many sharps favor Jessie Vargas over Adrien Broner this Saturday. Broner has so many personal problems and distractions I have to favor a good boxer who works hard and will pressure him as such a slight favorite.

Jessie Vargas (-120) vs Adrien Broner $720.00 for $600.00

Posted: **20 Apr 2018, 17:27**

JimGunn wrote: ↑20 Apr 2018, 17:20 I have mostly been focusing on MMA & kickboxing wagering, and haven't been following boxing as closely this year as I did last year, but it seems like many sharps favor Jessie Vargas over Adrien Broner this Saturday. Broner has so many personal problems and distractions I have to favor a good boxer who works hard and will pressure him as such a slight favorite.

Jessie Vargas (-120) vs Adrien Broner $720.00 for $600.00

Where’s Kickboxing betting? A guy I vaguely know fought in New York last week. He’s 26-0 and a three time world champion, but I’m not sure what it all means in kickboxing.

Posted: **21 Apr 2018, 01:21**

mickey1975 wrote: ↑20 Apr 2018, 17:27
JimGunn wrote: ↑20 Apr 2018, 17:20 I have mostly been focusing on MMA & kickboxing wagering, and haven't been following boxing as closely this year as I did last year, but it seems like many sharps favor Jessie Vargas over Adrien Broner this Saturday. Broner has so many personal problems and distractions I have to favor a good boxer who works hard and will pressure him as such a slight favorite.

Jessie Vargas (-120) vs Adrien Broner $720.00 for $600.00
Where’s Kickboxing betting? A guy I vaguely know fought in New York last week. He’s 26-0 and a three time world champion, but I’m not sure what it all means in kickboxing.

Betting on kickboxing is really limited compared to MMA or boxing. There are a few significant promotions with elite talent in Asia & Europe where kickboxing is most popular and a bunch of smaller ones around the world. But the only promotion that regularly has odds released on major online sportsbooks is Glory, which has a lot of top kickboxers on their roster, especially in the bigger weight-classes, and is broadcast in English around the world on UFC Fight Pass, ESPN and some other country specific tv channels in native languages. 5Dimes, Bookmaker, Sportsbook.com and BetOnline normally have odds a day or two before the monthly cards, as well as Unibet for the Euros.

Posted: **21 Apr 2018, 10:52**

Gone for some outsider bets

Dodd vs Coyle draw @ 20/1

Amir Khan vs Phil Lo Greco Greco KO, TKO, DQ @ 14/1

Carl Frampton vs Nonito Donaire Donarie win @ 5/1

All have a decent chance of coming in. Think these are overpriced.

Posted: **02 May 2018, 20:41**

Last time most people said that Tony Bellew had no chance and I won on him at +550. I had watched the Countdown show and the press conferences and the weigh-ins and it seems like most everyone completely ignored the non-stop talk of Haye's leg injury and supposedly secret stem cell treatments in Germany and ignored the multiple times Bellew asked and re-asked Haye to confirm at the press conferences that he was healthy and fit so that he would have no excuses. It was patently obvious to me that Bellew knew very well about the seriousness of Haye's injury and he publicly painted Haye into a corner by making him say he wasn't injured. Sure enough, after his leg gave out and he got TKOed Haye didn't make an excuse in the post-fight interview. I mention all that because going into this rematch injury prone Haye's fitness is a significant wildcard once again and could play a major factor in the fight.

Normally, I dislike betting rematches at worse odds than the first fight where I bet the underdog and won the first time. But I got over that in the Rungvisai/Chocolatito rematch to profit again on the underdog and I am going to do so here. I don't care if it's another injury stoppage with his leg or shoulder, a DQ, whatever- I think Haye's broken down body and inactivity could betray him here and Bellew could potentially win this fight again. So far I bet Bellew moneyline at +205, Bellew KO/TKO/DQ at +430, Bellew in round 7-12 at +700, Bellew to get a knockdown at +274 and a little stab on Bellew winning specifically by DQ at +10,000.

Posted: **03 May 2018, 00:31**

Thanks for the breakdown behind your thinking on this one. Actually looking forward to this fight as anything could happen though not sure what to bet on yet.

Posted: **03 May 2018, 00:38**

Haye pts

Expecting bellew to run all night

Posted: **03 May 2018, 00:48**

JimGunn wrote: ↑02 May 2018, 20:41 Last time most people said that Tony Bellew had no chance and I won on him at +550. I had watched the Countdown show and the press conferences and the weigh-ins and it seems like most everyone completely ignored the non-stop talk of Haye's leg injury and supposedly secret stem cell treatments in Germany and ignored the multiple times Bellew asked and re-asked Haye to confirm at the press conferences that he was healthy and fit so that he would have no excuses. It was patently obvious to me that Bellew knew very well about the seriousness of Haye's injury and he publicly painted Haye into a corner by making him say he wasn't injured. Sure enough, after his leg gave out and he got TKOed Haye didn't make an excuse in the post-fight interview. I mention all that because going into this rematch injury prone Haye's fitness is a significant wildcard once again and could play a major factor in the fight.

Normally, I dislike betting rematches at worse odds than the first fight where I bet the underdog and won the first time. But I got over that in the Rungvisai/Chocolatito rematch to profit again on the underdog and I am going to do so here. I don't care if it's another injury stoppage with his leg or shoulder, a DQ, whatever- I think Haye's broken down body and inactivity could betray him here and Bellew could potentially win this fight again. So far I bet Bellew moneyline at +205, Bellew KO/TKO/DQ at +430, Bellew in round 7-12 at +700, Bellew to get a knockdown at +274 and a little stab on Bellew winning specifically by DQ at +10,000.

Good breakdown. But, you can get Haye around the 1/2 mark (-200) and I think you're therefore asking if that price reflects his chances of him not getting injured. Bellew is currently rated by U.K bookies as having a one in three probability of winning the fight. Bearing in mind Haye was winning comfortably before the injury last time, I don't think the inactivity argument holds much water; he'd fought two cans in four years and was miles up.

How can Bellew win. Stoppage? He struggled badly to stop a one legged Haye. Points? He was well down against Haye pre injury. The answer is he gets another opportunity against an injured man.

I like the chances of Haye not getting injured. It could happen but I see it more around 20%. Add in that the longer he remains fit the longer he stands to stop Bellew. I think Haye wins.

Posted: **03 May 2018, 01:24**

dirk2686 wrote: ↑03 May 2018, 00:48
JimGunn wrote: ↑02 May 2018, 20:41 Last time most people said that Tony Bellew had no chance and I won on him at +550. I had watched the Countdown show and the press conferences and the weigh-ins and it seems like most everyone completely ignored the non-stop talk of Haye's leg injury and supposedly secret stem cell treatments in Germany and ignored the multiple times Bellew asked and re-asked Haye to confirm at the press conferences that he was healthy and fit so that he would have no excuses. It was patently obvious to me that Bellew knew very well about the seriousness of Haye's injury and he publicly painted Haye into a corner by making him say he wasn't injured. Sure enough, after his leg gave out and he got TKOed Haye didn't make an excuse in the post-fight interview. I mention all that because going into this rematch injury prone Haye's fitness is a significant wildcard once again and could play a major factor in the fight.

Normally, I dislike betting rematches at worse odds than the first fight where I bet the underdog and won the first time. But I got over that in the Rungvisai/Chocolatito rematch to profit again on the underdog and I am going to do so here. I don't care if it's another injury stoppage with his leg or shoulder, a DQ, whatever- I think Haye's broken down body and inactivity could betray him here and Bellew could potentially win this fight again. So far I bet Bellew moneyline at +205, Bellew KO/TKO/DQ at +430, Bellew in round 7-12 at +700, Bellew to get a knockdown at +274 and a little stab on Bellew winning specifically by DQ at +10,000.
Good breakdown. But, you can get Haye around the 1/2 mark (-200) and I think you're therefore asking if that price reflects his chances of him not getting injured. Bellew is currently rated by U.K bookies as having a one in three probability of winning the fight. Bearing in mind Haye was winning comfortably before the injury last time, I don't think the inactivity argument holds much water; he'd fought two cans in four years and was miles up.

How can Bellew win. Stoppage? He struggled badly to stop a one legged Haye. Points? He was well down against Haye pre injury. The answer is he gets another opportunity against an injured man.

I like the chances of Haye not getting injured. It could happen but I see it more around 20%. Add in that the longer he remains fit the longer he stands to stop Bellew. I think Haye wins.

It's not just a question of whether Haye can avoid an acute injury during the fight once it gets started. There's also the matter of how his training camp went and what kind of injuries he comes into the fight with. How will his mental state be after all he has been through? He looked pretty sloppy and off balance at points even before the leg injury last time. I don't think there is any guarantee that Haye even looks as good he started out last time straight off the bat at this point in his career.

Posted: **03 May 2018, 01:30**

True, but even sloppy, inactive, injured Haye clearly had enough to deal with Bellew before his Achilles went. The fight was nearly half done and he was miles ahead.

That's what I think has to be considered from a betting POV for this fight. Haye certainly could get injured, but if he doesn't, (or even if he does but it's a relatively minor issue) how does Bellew win? I make his chances of stopping Haye or outpointing him to be slim.

Ultimately I think the chances of Haye getting injured are considerably less than the chances being offered of Bellew winning. And because I see little chance of Bellew beating a fit Haye, Haye has to be the bet.

Posted: **03 May 2018, 02:02**

Personally, I think Haye v Bellew is a fight to avoid betting on. It's essentially a fight that is just full of spin and too many secrets and lies.

Posted: **03 May 2018, 06:35**

freddydoesdallas wrote: ↑03 May 2018, 02:02 Personally, I think Haye v Bellew is a fight to avoid betting on. It's essentially a fight that is just full of spin and too many secrets and lies.

Agreed. I have zero interest in the fight. There are some much better bets this weekend

Posted: **04 May 2018, 11:18**

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑03 May 2018, 00:38 Haye pts

Expecting bellew to run all night

That's my bet too

Posted: **04 May 2018, 11:20**

The last thing to go is the power. Haye mid rounds stoppage one he gets his timing back.

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