margaret thatcher wrote: ↑08 May 2021, 05:13
oh, im sure bjs accumulated more experience for 3 round fence offs than canelo did
as pros though
canelo: sergey kovalev, gggx2, floyd mayweather, miguel cotto, erislandy lara, daniel jacobs, austin trout, callum smith, shane mosely. hell , even chavez jr KO'd andy lee!
bjs: david lemiux, eubank jr, andy lee, john ryder....martin murray and nick blackwell?
Floyd schooled him. Cotto was done. Lara won in my eyes, Trout was very close, Mosely about 50.... we will see.
Those fights were still really good for his experience though. He would have learnt loads being schooled by Floyd.
ya, mick knows that too, he's getting desperate here
might as well just fight 0-20 bums if winning easy is all that matters
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Posted: 08 May 2021, 05:27
by DrDuke
Both of them have their arguable moments. Canelo has been improving all his career. Saunders brings some obscurity, but it's known, that sometimes he was preparing according to a level of his opposition and/or lacking dedication. Saunders seems motivated now. I'm rooting for BJS, but picking Canelo, although I won't be surprised by some unexpected stuff.
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Posted: 08 May 2021, 05:36
by Oiky
He's ready to rise to the occasion
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Posted: 08 May 2021, 05:39
by Twinkle Toes
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑08 May 2021, 05:13
oh, im sure bjs accumulated more experience for 3 round fence offs than canelo did
as pros though
canelo: sergey kovalev, gggx2, floyd mayweather, miguel cotto, erislandy lara, daniel jacobs, austin trout, callum smith, shane mosely. hell , even chavez jr KO'd andy lee!
bjs: david lemiux, eubank jr, andy lee, john ryder....martin murray and nick blackwell?
You know you're wasting your time don't you?
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Posted: 08 May 2021, 05:40
by margaret thatcher
im a simple man mate, the time i enjoy wasting is not wasted time
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Posted: 08 May 2021, 07:07
by coghaugen11
Nondescript wrote: ↑08 May 2021, 03:17
I'm calling it here, Saunders gets stopped to the body.
This is obvious.
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
coghaugen11 wrote: ↑07 May 2021, 16:44
When you think of the great British boxing journalists down the years - Colin Hart, Harry Mullan, Ken Jones, and Steve Lillis - I don’t think any of them would go out on a limb and pick leisure centre Saunders to win this. In way over his head.
Excluding Froch and Groves, which other British super middles have fought in a fight f this magnitude?
Calzaghe.
Nope didn’t get half the money Saunders is getting for this
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Posted: 08 May 2021, 07:14
by coghaugen11
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑08 May 2021, 05:13
oh, im sure bjs accumulated more experience for 3 round fence offs than canelo did
as pros though
canelo: sergey kovalev, gggx2, floyd mayweather, miguel cotto, erislandy lara, daniel jacobs, austin trout, callum smith, shane mosely. hell , even chavez jr KO'd andy lee!
bjs: david lemiux, eubank jr, andy lee, john ryder....martin murray and nick blackwell?
“When a guy has an extensive amateur background, in the game we call it pedigree. And pedigree can be important. But professional boxing is a different sport, and you will learn more fighting 10 rounds in the gym every day than fighting a few three-rounders every few months against youngsters who have nutrition but not hunger.
“Dan Sherry had 300 amateur fights. I had 26 amateur fights. This Dan Sherry was older than me, unbeaten and challenging me for the title in my first defence in my home town of Brighton. He had beat the best Cuban and so on.
“But he didn’t know how to punch correctly, he didn’t know how to clinch or fight inside or throw body shots. He couldn’t hold his feet. He couldn’t keep up a pace. He was an amateur. I had been sparring 10 or 15 rounds for seven and a half years.”
-Eubank Sr
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Posted: 08 May 2021, 07:16
by coghaugen11
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
mickey1975 wrote: ↑08 May 2021, 01:36
Excluding Froch and Groves, which other British super middles have fought in a fight f this magnitude?
Calzaghe.
Nope didn’t get half the money Saunders is getting for this
See
Basically the less people that see a fight, the bigger the ‘magnitude’/money
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Posted: 08 May 2021, 08:08
by mchuffy
Did I just pay £1.99 for this fight? I'm so confused.
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Posted: 08 May 2021, 08:11
by Bard of Boxrec
Lol I was just going to ask. How do I even see this fight ? Can I subscribe to DAZN on my television set and then unsubscribe again? So confused with these modern things.
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Posted: 08 May 2021, 08:16
by coghaugen11
fornicate it I’ll stream it.
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Posted: 08 May 2021, 08:27
by MightyWarrior
£1.99 to see the fight on DAZN , that’s a month sub included, then cancel before month expires ...I believe that’s correct.
And for you Luddites if you don’t watch it live you can go onto the DAZN app tomorrow morning and replay will be there, no result given, and you just click play
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Posted: 08 May 2021, 08:44
by tonyevs
Its almost here.
I can understand people clutching at anything to see their man win; some here I feel are simply expecting a miracle .. they wont see any logical way Saunders can win now, but just hoping for that miracle to happen like in other big upsets .. they visualising the aftermath when it will be discovered that BJS can actually hit harder than GGG/Kovalev/Jacobs ... that Saunders at this stage in his career shows his Mayweather like skills ... and Canelo shows that his own skillset was hugely overrated by a list of washed up opposition.
Its pointless debating with those here refusing to see logic about BJS chances because they belong to the Traveller community .. or just know a Traveller.
Tomorrow morning there will be excuses made and repeated by these people. But it will come back to the reasons previously identified why BJS wont win ... there are levels to boxing; BJS operates at least a level down from the elite; and Canelo is operating at the very top of that elite level.
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
mickey1975 wrote: ↑08 May 2021, 01:36
Excluding Froch and Groves, which other British super middles have fought in a fight f this magnitude?
Calzaghe.
Nope didn’t get half the money Saunders is getting for this
What’s money got to do with it? He fought Lacy then Kessler for all the belts.
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Posted: 08 May 2021, 09:00
by TheLeprechaun
Boxingcutsman wrote: ↑07 May 2021, 20:07
Let’s hope Saunders doesn’t show himself to be the usual shi tbag we all know he is and after pot shotting and moving for 5/6 rounds he feels the pressure building off Canelo patiently just touching him and slowly tightening the screw with the pressure & feet on him over them early rounds and pulls out with a injury knowing he’s about to get starched and then waffles on about how he was boxing the ears of canelo and If it wasn’t for the injury he would of beat him let’s hope he lives up to his talk and shows he is a fighting man and has a go and goes out on his shield & takes his hiding like a man, anyone who thinks Saunders stands any chance or it’s a tough fight for canelo knows fuk all about boxing IMO, but hey what do I know, I could be wrong, after all canelo has never been in with anyone like Saunders with the ability, heart, skill, power, pedigree he’s smart is canelo only facing them the B class fighters like : Mayweather, Cotto, Golovkin, Jacobs, Kirkland, Trout, Lara, Moseley, Vasquez, I could go on all day
Good post. My prediction is that Saunders quits in the fight. He will find some reason to get out of there without getting starched once he realizes he cannot win the fight and the going gets tough. I can see him also hitting Canelo low intentionally at some point. He has heart to an extent and can scramble through fights but ultimately he has the heart of a bully and when he starts getting really proper bullied, I think he will resort to cheating and then quitting. He'd rather quit than give people the satisfaction of seeing him getting KO'd.
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Posted: 08 May 2021, 09:10
by MightyWarrior
I reckon tomorrow there will be a lot of “Billy Joe did much better than I expected” posts
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Boxingcutsman wrote: ↑07 May 2021, 20:07
Let’s hope Saunders doesn’t show himself to be the usual shi tbag we all know he is and after pot shotting and moving for 5/6 rounds he feels the pressure building off Canelo patiently just touching him and slowly tightening the screw with the pressure & feet on him over them early rounds and pulls out with a injury knowing he’s about to get starched and then waffles on about how he was boxing the ears of canelo and If it wasn’t for the injury he would of beat him let’s hope he lives up to his talk and shows he is a fighting man and has a go and goes out on his shield & takes his hiding like a man, anyone who thinks Saunders stands any chance or it’s a tough fight for canelo knows fuk all about boxing IMO, but hey what do I know, I could be wrong, after all canelo has never been in with anyone like Saunders with the ability, heart, skill, power, pedigree he’s smart is canelo only facing them the B class fighters like : Mayweather, Cotto, Golovkin, Jacobs, Kirkland, Trout, Lara, Moseley, Vasquez, I could go on all day
Good post. My prediction is that Saunders quits in the fight. He will find some reason to get out of there without getting starched once he realizes he cannot win the fight and the going gets tough. I can see him also hitting Canelo low intentionally at some point. He has heart to an extent and can scramble through fights but ultimately he has the heart of a bully and when he starts getting really proper bullied, I think he will resort to cheating and then quitting. He'd rather quit than give people the satisfaction of seeing him getting KO'd.
Agree with you there mate 100% except I don’t believe he’s got no heart IMO and is just a bully
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Posted: 08 May 2021, 09:22
by oogiebe
MightyWarrior wrote: ↑08 May 2021, 09:10
I reckon tomorrow there will be a lot of “Billy Joe did much better than I expected” posts
Best we can hope for. this won't be close.
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Posted: 08 May 2021, 09:39
by coghaugen11
Any news on the undisputed P4P champion Terence Crawford and who he may be facing next?
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Posted: 08 May 2021, 09:42
by Jimmy2020
MightyWarrior wrote: ↑08 May 2021, 09:10
I reckon tomorrow there will be a lot of “Billy Joe did much better than I expected” posts
What's your prediction, mate?
I was thinking about Chavez v Sweet Pea before so had a bit of a surf. I had somehow missed that Pernell had been killed a couple of years back! Anyhow, I think Canelo, like JCC was, is top drawer, the question has to be is Billy in Sweet Pea's league?
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Posted: 08 May 2021, 09:48
by coghaugen11
Billy Joe Saunders is a 1971 Mini metro up to the Bugatti that is Pernell Whitaker.
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Posted: 08 May 2021, 09:51
by Terminator666
Crawford Ashley reckons Saunders can win- can’t say he knows fornicate all about boxing
knowing he’s about to get starched and then waffles on about how he was boxing the ears of canelo and If it wasn’t for the injury he would of beat him 
let’s hope he lives up to his talk and shows he is a fighting man and has a go and goes out on his shield & takes his hiding like a man, anyone who thinks Saunders stands any chance or it’s a tough fight for canelo knows fuk all about boxing IMO, but hey what do I know, I could be wrong, after all canelo has never been in with anyone like Saunders with the ability, heart, skill, power, pedigree 
I could go on all day