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margaret thatcher wrote: ↑02 Jun 2024, 21:45 the orderings you can make with hrg, zhang, joyce, dubois, and parker beating each other is all over the place. you can put almost any guy ahead or behind the other depending on the approach you take

eg

joyce beats parker who beats zhang who beat joyce who beat dubois who beat hrgvoic who beat zhang

so joyce > dubois > hrg > zhang > joyce > dubois > hrg

and

parker > zhang > joyce > parker > zhang

of course you cant simultaneously be a better and a worse fighter than someone. it's rarely as simple as 'this guy beat x, so he beats all these other guys around x's level too. it's nice to see a lot more fights between contenders happening. we've seen kabayel prove to be legit too once he stepped up

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑02 Jun 2024, 16:47 I agree, he broke Hrgovic, big redemptive fight for Daniel

JamesPhilips wrote: ↑03 Jun 2024, 05:35

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑02 Jun 2024, 16:47 I agree, he broke Hrgovic, big redemptive fight for Daniel

Dubois rooks some big shots it was surprising but I have it more that Hrgovic’s lack of fitness is what lost him the fight. He was gassed after about 5 rounds

forcefraser wrote: ↑03 Jun 2024, 10:59

JamesPhilips wrote: ↑03 Jun 2024, 05:35

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑02 Jun 2024, 16:47 I agree, he broke Hrgovic, big redemptive fight for Daniel

Dubois rooks some big shots it was surprising but I have it more that Hrgovic’s lack of fitness is what lost him the fight. He was gassed after about 5 rounds

Hrgovic was busted up. He wanted no more.

There was a shot of him in the corner at the end of the 7th round, blood streaming from his nose and both eyes. He looked like a man who was about to utter the immortal words of Tony Kurz as he hung from a rope on the north face of the Eiger, metres from safety, but still out of reach "ich kann nicht mehr"

joshj909 wrote: ↑03 Jun 2024, 11:34

forcefraser wrote: ↑03 Jun 2024, 10:59

JamesPhilips wrote: ↑03 Jun 2024, 05:35

Dubois rooks some big shots it was surprising but I have it more that Hrgovic’s lack of fitness is what lost him the fight. He was gassed after about 5 rounds

Hrgovic was busted up. He wanted no more.

There was a shot of him in the corner at the end of the 7th round, blood streaming from his nose and both eyes. He looked like a man who was about to utter the immortal words of Tony Kurz as he hung from a rope on the north face of the Eiger, metres from safety, but still out of reach "ich kann nicht mehr"

Do we know how much of the damage was done by clashes of heads? I had a few to drink while watching it but remember Dubois leading in with his head and then coming together a few times.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑02 Jun 2024, 10:26 Didn't Wilder used to use his jab effectively.

forcefraser wrote: ↑03 Jun 2024, 10:59

JamesPhilips wrote: ↑03 Jun 2024, 05:35

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑02 Jun 2024, 16:47 I agree, he broke Hrgovic, big redemptive fight for Daniel

Dubois rooks some big shots it was surprising but I have it more that Hrgovic’s lack of fitness is what lost him the fight. He was gassed after about 5 rounds

Hrgovic was busted up. He wanted no more.

There was a shot of him in the corner at the end of the 7th round, blood streaming from his nose and both eyes. He looked like a man who was about to utter the immortal words of Tony Kurz as he hung from a rope on the north face of the Eiger, metres from safety, but still out of reach "ich kann nicht mehr"

forcefraser wrote: ↑03 Jun 2024, 12:01

joshj909 wrote: ↑03 Jun 2024, 11:34

forcefraser wrote: ↑03 Jun 2024, 10:59

Hrgovic was busted up. He wanted no more.

There was a shot of him in the corner at the end of the 7th round, blood streaming from his nose and both eyes. He looked like a man who was about to utter the immortal words of Tony Kurz as he hung from a rope on the north face of the Eiger, metres from safety, but still out of reach "ich kann nicht mehr"

Do we know how much of the damage was done by clashes of heads? I had a few to drink while watching it but remember Dubois leading in with his head and then coming together a few times.

I think one of the cuts was certainly a headbutt. Dubois was liberal with it all night.

Fair play to Hrgovic, he didnt complain. it wasnt blatant butting but it was close.

Cask wrote: ↑08 Jun 2024, 19:15

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑02 Jun 2024, 10:26 Didn't Wilder used to use his jab effectively.

No, one fight against Stiverne he used some lead punches and moved around, other than that he's never shown any boxing IQ to speak of

Ricky wrote: ↑03 Jun 2024, 11:35 Wilder was a little unlucky vs Zhang. He got clipped with a hook while Zhang stood on his foot, he tried to complain to the ref about it and got BIG BANGED.

Ricky wrote: ↑03 Jun 2024, 11:35 Wilder was a little unlucky vs Zhang. He got clipped with a hook while Zhang stood on his foot, he tried to complain to the ref about it and got BIG BANGED.

Although, that was always going to be the end result, he's gunshy & shot. 70lb difference in weight is crazy.

tonyevs wrote: ↑09 Jun 2024, 08:42

Ricky wrote: ↑03 Jun 2024, 11:35 Wilder was a little unlucky vs Zhang. He got clipped with a hook while Zhang stood on his foot, he tried to complain to the ref about it and got BIG BANGED.

Although, that was always going to be the end result, he's gunshy & shot. 70lb difference in weight is crazy.

Zhang stepped on Joyces lead foot as he tried to stay outside numerous times in the rematch. Its a basic/early lesson we were taught in how to manoeuvre/control an opponent - I really don`t see an issue.

tonyevs wrote: ↑09 Jun 2024, 08:42

Ricky wrote: ↑03 Jun 2024, 11:35 Wilder was a little unlucky vs Zhang. He got clipped with a hook while Zhang stood on his foot, he tried to complain to the ref about it and got BIG BANGED.

Although, that was always going to be the end result, he's gunshy & shot. 70lb difference in weight is crazy.

Zhang stepped on Joyces lead foot as he tried to stay outside numerous times in the rematch. Its a basic/early lesson we were taught in how to manoeuvre/control an opponent - I really don`t see an issue.