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Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury II | PPV - 21 December 2024
Posted: 22 Dec 2024, 11:50
by golden_labrador
forcefraser wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 10:23
I paid for DAZN and just before the main flight it started cutting out and freezing
Had to watch it on a dodgy stream that worked perfectly. It was the Sky coverage
i managed to get home in time for the Usyk ring walk on DAZN and despite a few blurry moments (the screen, not my beer eyes) it went ok
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury II | PPV - 21 December 2024
Posted: 22 Dec 2024, 12:01
by Ruthless-RKO
Are we living in times were dodgy streams are working better than legit streams?
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury II | PPV - 21 December 2024
Posted: 22 Dec 2024, 12:31
by cormack
NazNaci1 wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 05:40
smiling assassin wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 05:33
jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 05:27
Holyfield would have smashed Fury to bits.
I don’t think you’ll get many disagreeing with that
I wouldn't disagree.
still wud even today
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury II | PPV - 21 December 2024
Posted: 22 Dec 2024, 12:35
by cormack
Coco wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 09:18
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 07:08
KiwiRider wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 00:25
And he still has to get past Parker
Looking ahead, and not at who is in front of you doesn't tend to go well.
I think it was down to Frank that. He was pissed so he told Dubois to get in the ring and make some noise.
Even the DAZN interviewer was embarrassed. Let Usyk have his moment.
He should have told DDD that he would knock him out with a jab again
yep DD is so immature - jumping in like that while the whole thing was about Usyk & Fury having had such a fight .
But I thought the way Usyk just dismissed him with the comment " yes no problem " was class .
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury II | PPV - 21 December 2024
Posted: 22 Dec 2024, 12:35
by forcefraser
No way that humongous Arab bloke is getting in the car he won
Had a mental full bedsheet on and it was still too tight on him
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury II | PPV - 21 December 2024
Posted: 22 Dec 2024, 12:52
by cormack
disgusting bias and disrepect was shown to Usyk by Warren and his crew but also Turki , but for me the worst of the bunch was Eddie Hearn who has spent the last 5 years slagging Fury off - now suddenly predicts he will beat Usyk and then questioned the judging last night ..
What more does Usyk need to do to be treated with equal respect ???
FFS he is an Olympic gold medallist / Undisputed at CW / Undisputed at HW and beat the two most serious contenders twice back to back in the way he did .
fwank really is a nasty embittered shitbag ..... but we all knew that I guess
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury II | PPV - 21 December 2024
Posted: 22 Dec 2024, 12:58
by keithmoonhangover
stevec@france wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 12:52
disgusting bias and disrepect was shown to Usyk by Warren and his crew but also Turki , but for me the worst of the bunch was Eddie Hearn who has spent the last 5 years slagging Fury off - now suddenly predicts he will beat Usyk and then questioned the judging last night ..
What more does Usyk need to do to be treated with equal respect ???
FFS he is an Olympic gold medallist / Undisputed at CW / Undisputed at HW and beat the two most serious contenders twice back to back in the way he did .
fwank really is a nasty embittered shitbag ..... but we all knew that I guess
In fairness, Eddie thought it was a draw. Fwank thought it was a first round stoppage win for Fury.
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury II | PPV - 21 December 2024
Posted: 22 Dec 2024, 13:00
by Ruthless-RKO
Eddie said he had Usyk favourite, and then it was during match week. He changed his mind.
At least AJ had Usyk winning
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury II | PPV - 21 December 2024
Posted: 22 Dec 2024, 13:05
by Coco
keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 12:58
stevec@france wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 12:52
disgusting bias and disrepect was shown to Usyk by Warren and his crew but also Turki , but for me the worst of the bunch was Eddie Hearn who has spent the last 5 years slagging Fury off - now suddenly predicts he will beat Usyk and then questioned the judging last night ..
What more does Usyk need to do to be treated with equal respect ???
FFS he is an Olympic gold medallist / Undisputed at CW / Undisputed at HW and beat the two most serious contenders twice back to back in the way he did .
fwank really is a nasty embittered shitbag ..... but we all knew that I guess
In fairness, Eddie thought it was a draw. Fwank thought it was a first round stoppage win for Fury.
You're full of sh*t, FW clearly stated that Fury won by KO in the 4th
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury II | PPV - 21 December 2024
Posted: 22 Dec 2024, 13:17
by keithmoonhangover
Coco wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 13:05
keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 12:58
stevec@france wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 12:52
disgusting bias and disrepect was shown to Usyk by Warren and his crew but also Turki , but for me the worst of the bunch was Eddie Hearn who has spent the last 5 years slagging Fury off - now suddenly predicts he will beat Usyk and then questioned the judging last night ..
What more does Usyk need to do to be treated with equal respect ???
FFS he is an Olympic gold medallist / Undisputed at CW / Undisputed at HW and beat the two most serious contenders twice back to back in the way he did .
fwank really is a nasty embittered shitbag ..... but we all knew that I guess
In fairness, Eddie thought it was a draw. Fwank thought it was a first round stoppage win for Fury.
You're full of sh*t, FW clearly stated that Fury won by KO in the 4th
Not lately, I take Apple Cider Vinegar Capsules.
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury II | PPV - 21 December 2024
Posted: 22 Dec 2024, 13:38
by dempseyfire
dempseyfire wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 00:03
DrDuke wrote: ↑21 Dec 2024, 20:28
Actually, Fury being past prime after Wilder 3 is a good discussion.
It seems like Fury's punch resistance at least was better before getting caught by Wilder on several occasions.
Based on what? Fury's never had a granite jaw . . dropped by Cunningham, Pacjic . . hurt badly by Firtha. Chisora also had him holding on several times in their first fight.
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury II | PPV - 21 December 2024
Posted: 22 Dec 2024, 13:48
by KiwiRider
keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 13:17
Coco wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 13:05
keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 12:58
In fairness, Eddie thought it was a draw. Fwank thought it was a first round stoppage win for Fury.
You're full of sh*t, FW clearly stated that Fury won by KO in the 4th
Not lately, I take Apple Cider Vinegar Capsules.
Oh, try the gummies Keef. Yummy.
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury II | PPV - 21 December 2024
Posted: 22 Dec 2024, 14:23
by Cent0089
Well, Fury did much better than in the first fight, but what was good enough to beat Wilder wasnt good enough to beat Usyk. 115-113 or 116-112 for Usyk,
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury II | PPV - 21 December 2024
Posted: 22 Dec 2024, 14:47
by Coco
Cent0089 wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 14:23
Well, Fury did much better than in the first fight, but what was good enough to beat Wilder wasnt good enough to beat Usyk. 115-113 or 116-112 for Usyk,
I thought he was better too, but of course so was Uysk, high-level stuff, Uysk was a clearer winner for me this time
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury II | PPV - 21 December 2024
Posted: 22 Dec 2024, 15:00
by keithmoonhangover
Coco wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 14:47
Cent0089 wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 14:23
Well, Fury did much better than in the first fight, but what was good enough to beat Wilder wasnt good enough to beat Usyk. 115-113 or 116-112 for Usyk,
I thought he was better too, but of course so was Uysk, high-level stuff, Uysk was a clearer winner for me this time
Don't you think Usyk's fantastic at keeping his shape, staying in position and buying those rests when he needs to?
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury II | PPV - 21 December 2024
Posted: 22 Dec 2024, 15:11
by Coco
keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 15:00
Coco wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 14:47
Cent0089 wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 14:23
Well, Fury did much better than in the first fight, but what was good enough to beat Wilder wasnt good enough to beat Usyk. 115-113 or 116-112 for Usyk,
I thought he was better too, but of course so was Uysk, high-level stuff, Uysk was a clearer winner for me this time
Don't you think Usyk's fantastic at keeping his shape, staying in position and buying those rests when he needs to?
Uysk is great, moreso because I rate Fury, and he combatted the size without a problem.
KO'd DDD with a jab too
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury II | PPV - 21 December 2024
Posted: 22 Dec 2024, 15:29
by stujones
keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 15:00
Coco wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 14:47
Cent0089 wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 14:23
Well, Fury did much better than in the first fight, but what was good enough to beat Wilder wasnt good enough to beat Usyk. 115-113 or 116-112 for Usyk,
I thought he was better too, but of course so was Uysk, high-level stuff, Uysk was a clearer winner for me this time
Don't you think Usyk's fantastic at keeping his shape, staying in position and buying those rests when he needs to?
What Usyk did that was a particular master class was kept so busy. Fury with the added weight and also his attitude to stop showboating meant he gassed earlier this time, Usyk took advantage of that.
For the first time ever between rounds 2 and 5 I thought “don’t think Usyk is going to do it”, boy was I wrong. Even though he was taking shots, he was making Fury work at a pace he knew he couldn’t sustain. In some ways similar to Bellew fight, but I always felt he was in control there. This time, I didn’t feel so confident but I shouldn’t have doubted him.
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury II | PPV - 21 December 2024
Posted: 22 Dec 2024, 15:47
by Cent0089
Coco wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 15:11
keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 15:00
Coco wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 14:47
I thought he was better too, but of course so was Uysk, high-level stuff, Uysk was a clearer winner for me this time
Don't you think Usyk's fantastic at keeping his shape, staying in position and buying those rests when he needs to?
Uysk is great, moreso because I rate Fury, and he combatted the size without a problem.
KO'd DDD with a jab too
Yeah that demolition of Dubois is pretty underrated IMO
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury II | PPV - 21 December 2024
Posted: 22 Dec 2024, 16:12
by KiwiRider
stujones wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 15:29
keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 15:00
Coco wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 14:47
I thought he was better too, but of course so was Uysk, high-level stuff, Uysk was a clearer winner for me this time
Don't you think Usyk's fantastic at keeping his shape, staying in position and buying those rests when he needs to?
What Usyk did that was a particular master class was kept so busy. Fury with the added weight and also his attitude to stop showboating meant he gassed earlier this time, Usyk took advantage of that.
For the first time ever between rounds 2 and 5 I thought “don’t think Usyk is going to do it”, boy was I wrong. Even though he was taking shots, he was making Fury work at a pace he knew he couldn’t sustain. In some ways
similar to Bellew fight, but I always felt he was in control there. This time, I didn’t feel so confident but I shouldn’t have doubted him.
Funny, Tony Bellew was saying the exact same thing on the commentary at around the 4th round
I actually thought Tyson got a second wind in the later stages and did well considering how out of his comfort zone he was earlier
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury II | PPV - 21 December 2024
Posted: 22 Dec 2024, 17:17
by Cas
Tyson Fury looked gun shy this fight if you ask me. His best success was in the first fight, landed some heavy shots.. I can't say the same for this fight. Fury looked timid in there compared to the first.
I was expecting an aggressive approach and to play dirty, didn't see any of it. All a bit odd if you ask me considering how heavy he was and was holding out for a points win. Maybe the first fight knocked his confidence or he was afraid of completely gassing knowing Usyk will come on late.
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury II | PPV - 21 December 2024
Posted: 22 Dec 2024, 17:24
by NazNaci1
hhaehre wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 06:24
NazNaci1 wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 05:40
smiling assassin wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 05:33
I don’t think you’ll get many disagreeing with that
I wouldn't disagree.
Yeah, I don't know though. As much as I liked Holyfield he alway took a lot of punches and Fury is a pretty accurate puncher against most guys not named Usyk. Holy was always exiting to watch, but let's not forget that he went life and death against a guy like Bert Cooper and that old man Foreman had no problems hitting him.
True, but both of them could bang much harder than Fury and if Uysk could work his way inside, you can bet Holyfield would and, he could rattle off some serious 4,5 or 6 punch combos. Fury hasn't faced anything like that. Uysk does, at least, throw 2-3 punch combos, but not with the same speed and venom of, say, a peak Holyfield.
He also took on and beat the much bigger, skilful and more powerful Bowe and gave Lewis all he could handle in 2 fights.
Fury doesn't really match up in those terms.
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury II | PPV - 21 December 2024
Posted: 22 Dec 2024, 17:33
by mickey1975
Usyk has said the first fight was harder.
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury II | PPV - 21 December 2024
Posted: 22 Dec 2024, 18:02
by keithmoonhangover
mickey1975 wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 17:33
Usyk has said the first fight was harder.
I agree, I thought he looked in cruise control for large parts of the fight last night. It looked like Fury's shots, particularly to the body weren't having the same effect as the first encounter. Obviously that's just my opinion. Fury's conditioning also came back to bite him and he just couldn't sustain attacks.
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury II | PPV - 21 December 2024
Posted: 22 Dec 2024, 18:07
by hhaehre
NazNaci1 wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 17:24
hhaehre wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 06:24
NazNaci1 wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 05:40
I wouldn't disagree.
Yeah, I don't know though. As much as I liked Holyfield he alway took a lot of punches and Fury is a pretty accurate puncher against most guys not named Usyk. Holy was always exiting to watch, but let's not forget that he went life and death against a guy like Bert Cooper and that old man Foreman had no problems hitting him.
True, but both of them could bang much harder than Fury and if Uysk could work his way inside, you can bet Holyfield would and, he could rattle off some serious 4,5 or 6 punch combos. Fury hasn't faced anything like that. Uysk does, at least, throw 2-3 punch combos, but not with the same speed and venom of, say, a peak Holyfield.
He also took on and beat the much bigger, skilful and more powerful Bowe and gave Lewis all he could handle in 2 fights.
Fury doesn't really match up in those terms.
It's an interesting fantasy match up. I think Holyfield could win, but it wouldn't be easy for him. Almost none of his fights at heavyweight were easy. I think he could get inside on Fury, but he would pay a higher price than Usyk. I've come to think Usyk is one of the hardest guys to fight. Always moving, always throwing something from different angles, difficult to hit and a pretty awkward style. Doesn't slow down either and never allows his opponents to rest.
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury II | PPV - 21 December 2024
Posted: 22 Dec 2024, 18:10
by Grilling Machine
Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 09:09
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 09:03
Ben probably had him losing too, but didn’t want to say it.
For sure they way he said I thought it was dead close
When he said "I thought you was gonna get it if I'm honest" he wasn't lying, cos we all did!
In his heart I imagine Fury knows he didn't do enough, but he'll indulge the sycophants he keeps for company.