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Its gotta be The Olympic Rog.
I never had the honor of going there.But, Ive always been intrigued by the place .
A real boxing venue.
I also miss the old Chicago Stadium.I loved that place.
You guys here would have really appreciated that place also.

Expug wrote:

dagosd2000 wrote:

Expug wrote:Hey guys, I just read that they are shutting down Coney Island in Newyork.
Something about a redevelopement plan.
Thats" candyass speak "for Starbucks and condos I think.

You think right. Take a look at that picture Frank posted for me of Lazro Cardenas' house. No way they'd tear that down. Or anything in that town. Everytime I see a Starbucks,I want to puke. Check this out. They're building a Taco Bell in Tijuana. That has to be for what's leftover for the tourists.

Gee honey,let's go to Tijuana and eat at Taco Bell. That's why I can't stand Cabo,Can Cun,or any other tourist trap or American Colony in Mexico. They have to have their Starbucks and McDonalds. Screw that.

As far as Coney Island goes,I hope when they rebuild it with spas and boutiques,a Tsunami will pay the place a visit.

outstanding! .That post was the smile of the day Rog.
Freakin Taco Bell in Tijuana.The end is near I tell ya.

So then you really can sell snowballs to an Eskimo? Same difference.

kikibalt wrote:Lazaro Cardenas


"Lazaro"

By Diego

Caption by diego

Lazaro Cardenas,along with Benito Juarez,were Mexico's greatest Presidents. My portrait of Cardenas displayed at El Colonial Cafe in Jiquilpan.


Lazaro Cardenes's house

Practical and utilitarian. with a simple beauty. No they won't be tearing it down any time soon.

Everytime I see a Starbucks,I want to puke.

There is no way to describe how much I hate Starbucks. Give me regular cup of Joe any day of the week. I don't get it. It's lousy cup of coffee. It's the Starbucks mentality in this country that is tearing down the old classic buildings. It's all about image.

Expug wrote:Your right Randy.
Ya know, a couple years ago my family and i took a long drive through the midwest.
Through small towns mostly.It was disturbing to me that every town was completely strip malled.
When we would pull into the town, it was almost the same order of fast food dumps from begining to end .
So, its happening in parts of rural America too.

So, instead of America the beautiful, it's become America the generic! To coin an old phrase "There oughta be a law!"

On the subject of Dave Shade and Bert Colima, I found results of bouts which weren't listed on their records. Early in his career while fighting in four-round bouts, Shade fought a lot of fighters who had interesting boxing careers, including Oakland Jimmy Duffy, Frankie Farren, Phil Salvadore, Willie Hunefeld, Charley Moy, Joe "Petie" Coffey, Danny Nunes, Danny Kramer, Earl France, California Frankie Burns, Teddy O'Hara, Georgie Spencer, Johnny Webber, Willie Capelle and Henry "Smiley" Bricker.

- Chuck Johnston

Randyman wrote:

Everytime I see a Starbucks,I want to puke.

There is no way to describe how much I hate Starbucks. Give me regular cup of Joe any day of the week. I don't get it. It's lousy cup of coffee. It's the Starbucks mentality in this country that is tearing down the old classic buildings. It's all about image.

I hear ya.
The mountain grown stuff is fine with me. Wheres Mrs. Olson?

I'm going to McDdonalds.....

Man, on that trip I posted about earlier, we stopped at a McDonalds in Oklahoma, and I swear , there were people in the parking lot who couldnt squeeze out of there minivans .
Too large.

Chuck1052 wrote:On the subject of Dave Shade and Bert Colima, I found results of bouts which weren't listed on their records. Early in his career while fighting in four-round bouts, Shade fought a lot of fighters who had interesting boxing careers, including Oakland Jimmy Duffy, Frankie Farren, Phil Salvadore, Willie Hunefeld, Charley Moy, Joe "Petie" Coffey, Danny Nunes, Danny Kramer, Earl France, California Frankie Burns, Teddy O'Hara, Georgie Spencer, Johnny Webber, Willie Capelle and Henry "Smiley" Bricker.

- Chuck Johnston

Chuck, allow me to give you kudos for your contributions to boxing, to boxing in Southern California and specifically the Los Angeles area. I am always amazed and in awe of those that know how to research. It takes patience, smarts and common sense to follow any trail but even more so when no records can be found for a fight and or a career from a century or so ago. No easy task. I like to write about boxing but what ever I write about that is beyond the scope of my personal experience, is dependent on guys like you, that dig in, research and put it out for guys like us to enjoy, toss around, and digest. Thanks for all you do. It is honestly appreciated.

Randy

kikibalt wrote:I'm going to McDdonalds.....

My father would literally shudder at the thought of a McDonald's hamburger. He would go to Crony's in East L.A. . Now that's a burger. It was already showing wear and tear when I was a kid and it's still around, with the same guy that took our orders way back when. I still take the family there when I want a good basic no nonsense hamburger. Somehow, that one made through the cracks.

Randy

Expug wrote:

dagosd2000 wrote:

Expug wrote:Hey guys, I just read that they are shutting down Coney Island in Newyork.
Something about a redevelopement plan.
Thats" candyass speak "for Starbucks and condos I think.

You think right. Take a look at that picture Frank posted for me of Lazro Cardenas' house. No way they'd tear that down. Or anything in that town. Everytime I see a Starbucks,I want to puke. Check this out. They're building a Taco Bell in Tijuana. That has to be for what's leftover for the tourists.

Gee honey,let's go to Tijuana and eat at Taco Bell. That's why I can't stand Cabo,Can Cun,or any other tourist trap or American Colony in Mexico. They have to have their Starbucks and McDonalds. Screw that.

As far as Coney Island goes,I hope when they rebuild it with spas and boutiques,a Tsunami will pay the place a visit.

outstanding! .That post was the smile of the day Rog.
Freakin Taco Bell in Tijuana.The end is near I tell ya.

Who would buy a taco at Taco Bell in T.J., when you can buy the real thing. bad move on Taco Bell's part, I think...

Expug wrote:Man, on that trip I posted about earlier, we stopped at a McDonalds in Oklahoma, and I swear , there were people in the parking lot who couldnt squeeze out of there minivans .
Too large.

Now that is sad. Really. The country is killing itself. No wonder no one cares about old buildings and landmarks anymore.

Randyman wrote:

kikibalt wrote:I'm going to McDdonalds.....

My father would literally shudder at the thought of a McDonald's hamburger. He would go to Crony's in East L.A. . Now that's a burger. It was already showing wear and tear when I was a kid and it's still around, with the same guy that took our orders way back when. I still take the family there when I want a good basic no nonsense hamburger. Somehow, that one made through the cracks.

Randy

Randy,

Where is Crony's?, don't know that I been there.

Good point Randy.
A person who doesnt care at all about their health probably aint interested in preserving a landmark.

kikibalt wrote:

Randyman wrote:

kikibalt wrote:I'm going to McDdonalds.....

My father would literally shudder at the thought of a McDonald's hamburger. He would go to Crony's in East L.A. . Now that's a burger. It was already showing wear and tear when I was a kid and it's still around, with the same guy that took our orders way back when. I still take the family there when I want a good basic no nonsense hamburger. Somehow, that one made through the cracks.

Randy

Randy,

Where is Crony's?, don't know that I been there.

Crony's is on Whittier Bl, more or less across from the old Kmart. Heading from Montebello it's a little before Atlantic Bl. It's a greasy spoon, pigeons all around but there is almost always a crowd. They're closed on Sunday. The burger is close in size to an In and Out burger. They make good hot dogs, pastrami sandwiches, and Chile served over a tamale. Basic no frills, definitely not gourmet. They have added a few Mexican items over the years but basically, it's a burger joint.

kikibalt wrote:I'm going to McDdonalds.....

Hey Frank,
That's cool. I've never been to McDdonalds.Now I've been to McDonalds,and that place sucks. But you're going to McDdonalds. That must be a diffrent place. What is it like? Good food? Menudo con Pata? Or is it McMenudo?

Expug wrote:Good point Randy.
A person who doesnt care at all about their health probably aint interested in preserving a landmark.

Lucky for boxing and the country there are guys like us that still believe in old fashioned values, morality and hard work. No joking, I see it as all being related. Symptomatic of what's wrong with the country and so many people. It has somehow become all about image, or the obsession with money, or and don't laugh, the preoccupations of the Britney Spears and Paris Hiltons of the world. No one wants to contribute. They just want to reap the benefits of someone else's hard work. I could go on and on but you get the picture. It's not a lot of little problems, it's one big problem. Lot's of apathy.

dagosd2000 wrote:

kikibalt wrote:I'm going to McDdonalds.....

Hey Frank,
That's cool. I've never been to McDdonalds.Now I've been to McDonalds,and that place sucks. But you're going to McDdonalds. That must be a diffrent place. What is it like? Good food? Menudo con Pata? Or is it McMenudo?

It's McMenudo con patas!

Who would buy a taco at Taco Bell in T.J., when you can buy the real thing. bad move on Taco Bell's part, I think... [/quote]

Frank
Don't you get it. Taco Bell is really smart. It's for all the paranoid gringos who think they're going to get Montezuma's Revenge if they eat off the carts in Tj. Now they can get sick eating at Taco Bell . But knowing how they are,they'll say some Mexican slipped some cat meat in the tacos. BTW,the'ol Kentucky Diner that was next to the Boom Boom Club used to serve cat tacos. Chinese Mexicans owned the place and they put anything that wasn't movin' in those tacos. A little grisly,but after 20 beers who cared.

Speaking of hamburgers, I'm reminded of a place that my friends and I used to go back in the early 1950's, real early 50's, before I met Connie, we could get a burger, fries and a soda for 75 cents, my friend Tom and I were going out with two girls that were cousins, we would take'em cruising around E.L.A. and then take'em home because we each didn't have a $1.50 to take'em with us to eat, that place was at the corner of Whittier Bl. and Eastern Ave. "Johnny's"

dagosd2000 wrote:

kikibalt wrote:I'm going to McDdonalds.....

Hey Frank,
That's cool. I've never been to McDdonalds.Now I've been to McDonalds,and that place sucks. But you're going to McDdonalds. That must be a diffrent place. What is it like? Good food? Menudo con Pata? Or is it McMenudo?

Ok, so I f&*ked with my spelling, so what's new.....

Randyman wrote:

Expug wrote:Good point Randy.
A person who doesnt care at all about their health probably aint interested in preserving a landmark.

Lucky for boxing and the country there are guys like us that still believe in old fashioned values, morality and hard work. No joking, I see it as all being related. Symptomatic of what's wrong with the country and so many people. It has somehow become all about image, or the obsession with money, or and don't laugh, the preoccupations of the Britney Spears and Paris Hiltons of the world. No one wants to contribute. They just want to reap the benefits of someone else's hard work. I could go on and on but you get the picture. It's not a lot of little problems, it's one big problem. Lot's of apathy.

I do get the picture and you are right.
Unfortunately I dont see it turning around anytime soon.
Priorities are in the wrong place.
There is an unhealthy infatuation from the American public on pro sports stars.(not boxers unfortunately)
A football coachs team finishes in second place and people call him a f...in idiot.
A guy finishes dead last in his class at medical school and they call him doctor.

Randyman wrote:Crony's is on Whittier Bl, more or less across from the old Kmart. Heading from Montebello it's a little before Atlantic Bl. It's a greasy spoon, pigeons all around but there is almost always a crowd. They're closed on Sunday. The burger is close in size to an In and Out burger. They make good hot dogs, pastrami sandwiches, and Chile served over a tamale. Basic no frills, definitely not gourmet. They have added a few Mexican items over the years but basically, it's a burger joint.

I know where its at now, though, I never been there, have heard about it from other people.

Randyman wrote:

Expug wrote:Good point Randy.
A person who doesnt care at all about their health probably aint interested in preserving a landmark.

Lucky for boxing and the country there are guys like us that still believe in old fashioned values, morality and hard work. No joking, I see it as all being related. Symptomatic of what's wrong with the country and so many people. It has somehow become all about image, or the obsession with money, or and don't laugh, the preoccupations of the Britney Spears and Paris Hiltons of the world. No one wants to contribute. They just want to reap the benefits of someone else's hard work. I could go on and on but you get the picture. It's not a lot of little problems, it's one big problem. Lot's of apathy.

Hey Randy
I don't know about the morality part. I guess i'm getting a little better at it. But I remember the day 30 years ago when they tore down the Blue Fox. Since we're talking about tearing down National treasures,I'll never forget when the bulldozers smashed down the most notorious "cat house" in the world. The neon sign read "The Green Note',but there was one of those big sandwich boards out side the door with a painting of a sly old fox in a tux smoking a cigarette and holding a martini glass..He's saying,"Eat At The Blue Fox."Use your imagination on that one.

The thing was you always wanted to sneak in without paying the 75 cents for a long neck Tecate. You'd always tell the doorman,"Free look. I want a free look."
But if you were going inside they'd steer you to the bar and it was the long neck.

The place was big inside. Two floors with shows top and bottom. Plenty of girls,not bad lookin' either. What I also liked was the music. They had these old musicians that played "La Cucaracha" and "Mama Inez" with a jazz/latin beat so the girls who came out on stage could get to dancin'. A cornet,sax,upright piano,and timbales. These guys were real good musicians and new how to swing it. Hell jazz came from the Red Light District in Storyville. This was a natural for them. Then the girl would come out. The big stars were Georgina and Septiembre. They were drop dead in the looks department,but I think they spent all their money on "nose candy". They'd dance two,then the lights would dim. The doorman would give the signal. The emcee(Enos the Penis)would then ask all the horny animals if you wanted to "eat"Georgina,you'd have to clap your hands. Well let me tell ya' Ruth or Dempsey never heard so much clapping in their careers. Then it was just the bongos. Well you couldn't see too well and everybody is leanig backwards over the rail. Don't ask me how I behaved in there,but afterwards when I'd go to the Kentucky Diner,I swore those cat tacos had hair in them.