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Delta Jay wrote: ↑18 Nov 2022, 17:44 I’ll stick this here so I don’t need a new thread.

Has anyone heard Whiskey & White? It’s a podcast hosted by Tommy McCarthy and Tyrone McKenna. They’ve both always come across to me as proper funny daft lads and I find this pod absolutely hilarious. They rarely talk about boxing but when they do you hear the experience and knowledge shine through. It’s definitely not for everyone on here but maybe have a go if you fancy something lighter.

Stuck it on now, pretty good, ta

dookus wrote: ↑20 Nov 2022, 15:31

Delta Jay wrote: ↑18 Nov 2022, 17:44 I’ll stick this here so I don’t need a new thread.

Has anyone heard Whiskey & White? It’s a podcast hosted by Tommy McCarthy and Tyrone McKenna. They’ve both always come across to me as proper funny daft lads and I find this pod absolutely hilarious. They rarely talk about boxing but when they do you hear the experience and knowledge shine through. It’s definitely not for everyone on here but maybe have a go if you fancy something lighter.

Stuck it on now, pretty good, ta

Glad you liked it. Not one for the purists is it

Robin Reid one is deep

emallini wrote: ↑07 Dec 2022, 16:10 Robin Reid one is deep

Yes it was. Comes across like a decent bloke,
sounds like he is struggling to pay bills which considering his achievements in the sport is sad to hear.

Controversial wrote: ↑08 Dec 2022, 02:27

emallini wrote: ↑07 Dec 2022, 16:10 Robin Reid one is deep

Yes it was. Comes across like a decent bloke,
sounds like he is struggling to pay bills which considering his achievements in the sport is sad to hear.

It was brilliant I thought, I see him from time to time in the car he talks about, to be fair it looks like new. I couldn't believe how little he got got the Joe C fight, walking away with £20k ffs! Look what some average fighters are getting today. He seems like a nice fella, I hope it all works out for him

The money talk was sad. Reid had the full package, looks, Olympic medal, WBC title and could really fight,

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑08 Dec 2022, 07:51

Controversial wrote: ↑08 Dec 2022, 02:27

emallini wrote: ↑07 Dec 2022, 16:10 Robin Reid one is deep

Yes it was. Comes across like a decent bloke,
sounds like he is struggling to pay bills which considering his achievements in the sport is sad to hear.

It was brilliant I thought, I see him from time to time in the car he talks about, to be fair it looks like new. I couldn't believe how little he got got the Joe C fight, walking away with £20k ffs! Look what some average fighters are getting today. He seems like a nice fella, I hope it all works out for him

Yes to be left with around £20k after tax and expenses is ridiculous, Reid only fought once in 1999 too so that was his salary for the entire year. He was a really decent fighter and deserved to be paid well.

Sad when you see Fighters who should have made enough to life a quiet live dont have a penny to show for it. John Murray is another who I follow on Facebook, gone back to the 9-5 world doesnt have much to show from boxing, eye sight problems.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑08 Dec 2022, 08:55 The money talk was sad. Reid had the full package, looks, Olympic medal, WBC title and could really fight,

I'm halfway through and 2 observations:
1. Given what you've rightly outlined above Mickey you'd have expected him to have a degree of arrogance, but he actually comes across as a contender for World's Nicest Guy.
2. Sadly have to wonder whether in a brutal sport like boxing, it's that same niceness that cost him in terms of marketability, business dealings etc. If he'd had a brash persona to go with the looks, talent and titles, you can't help but think he'd almost certainly have earned more.

Deserter wrote: ↑08 Dec 2022, 12:35

mickey1975 wrote: ↑08 Dec 2022, 08:55 The money talk was sad. Reid had the full package, looks, Olympic medal, WBC title and could really fight,

I'm halfway through and 2 observations:
1. Given what you've rightly outlined above Mickey you'd have expected him to have a degree of arrogance, but he actually comes across as a contender for World's Nicest Guy.
2. Sadly have to wonder whether in a brutal sport like boxing, it's that same niceness that cost him in terms of marketability, business dealings etc. If he'd had a brash persona to go with the looks, talent and titles, you can't help but think he'd almost certainly have earned more.

Yes I thought that same, very polite, respectful and no real ego. Unfortunately many fighters get taken advantage of and trust people that maybe don't always have their best interests at heart. Someone with Reid's personality traits can quite easily be taken advantage of, not get more money or create opportunities for themselves. Love him or hate him Jake Paul does all the things to generate interest and money for himself, if he was quiet, respectful and kept himself to himself you'd never see him in these big money events. The phrase 'nice guys finish last' springs to mind.

Deserter wrote: ↑08 Dec 2022, 12:35

mickey1975 wrote: ↑08 Dec 2022, 08:55 The money talk was sad. Reid had the full package, looks, Olympic medal, WBC title and could really fight,

I'm halfway through and 2 observations:
1. Given what you've rightly outlined above Mickey you'd have expected him to have a degree of arrogance, but he actually comes across as a contender for World's Nicest Guy.
2. Sadly have to wonder whether in a brutal sport like boxing, it's that same niceness that cost him in terms of marketability, business dealings etc. If he'd had a brash persona to go with the looks, talent and titles, you can't help but think he'd almost certainly have earned more.

Well, he beat Wharton and Henry lives in a huge house paid for by boxing. Yet despite Henry being a nice guy too, he is certainly not too nice and nobody’s fool. You couldn’t have him over for money.

Controversial wrote: ↑08 Dec 2022, 02:27

emallini wrote: ↑07 Dec 2022, 16:10 Robin Reid one is deep

Yes it was. Comes across like a decent bloke,
sounds like he is struggling to pay bills which considering his achievements in the sport is sad to hear.

Very few fighters make money, even at that level.

A lot of unbeaten, tickets selling, small hall fighters fight virtually for free.

Fighters I know with a few quid worked full time so the boxing money was extra.

And some made a living off the profile they built as a fighter.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑08 Dec 2022, 14:44

Deserter wrote: ↑08 Dec 2022, 12:35

mickey1975 wrote: ↑08 Dec 2022, 08:55 The money talk was sad. Reid had the full package, looks, Olympic medal, WBC title and could really fight,

I'm halfway through and 2 observations:
1. Given what you've rightly outlined above Mickey you'd have expected him to have a degree of arrogance, but he actually comes across as a contender for World's Nicest Guy.
2. Sadly have to wonder whether in a brutal sport like boxing, it's that same niceness that cost him in terms of marketability, business dealings etc. If he'd had a brash persona to go with the looks, talent and titles, you can't help but think he'd almost certainly have earned more.

Well, he beat Wharton and Henry lives in a huge house paid for by boxing. Yet despite Henry being a nice guy too, he is certainly not too nice and nobody’s fool. You couldn’t have him over for money.

i thought Wharton made his money from buying up property and opening businesses?

Controversial wrote: ↑08 Dec 2022, 16:51

mickey1975 wrote: ↑08 Dec 2022, 14:44

Deserter wrote: ↑08 Dec 2022, 12:35
I'm halfway through and 2 observations:
1. Given what you've rightly outlined above Mickey you'd have expected him to have a degree of arrogance, but he actually comes across as a contender for World's Nicest Guy.
2. Sadly have to wonder whether in a brutal sport like boxing, it's that same niceness that cost him in terms of marketability, business dealings etc. If he'd had a brash persona to go with the looks, talent and titles, you can't help but think he'd almost certainly have earned more.

Well, he beat Wharton and Henry lives in a huge house paid for by boxing. Yet despite Henry being a nice guy too, he is certainly not too nice and nobody’s fool. You couldn’t have him over for money.

i thought Wharton made his money from buying up property and opening businesses?

No. He will have made a few quid when he sold his chippy, that’s it. He had his house built before then. The Benn fight was a lot of money for the time. Ironically from the same promoter as Calzaghe v Reid.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑08 Dec 2022, 17:00

Controversial wrote: ↑08 Dec 2022, 16:51

mickey1975 wrote: ↑08 Dec 2022, 14:44
Well, he beat Wharton and Henry lives in a huge house paid for by boxing. Yet despite Henry being a nice guy too, he is certainly not too nice and nobody’s fool. You couldn’t have him over for money.

i thought Wharton made his money from buying up property and opening businesses?

No. He will have made a few quid when he sold his chippy, that’s it. He had his house built before then. The Benn fight was a lot of money for the time. Ironically from the same promoter as Calzaghe v Reid.

Sorry I was thinking of Scott Welch not Wharton doh

Sounds like Reid got done over. He seemed too easy going on the pod so can imagine the likes of fisheyes shafted him on the money.

I'm sure Reid did porn too

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑08 Dec 2022, 07:51

Controversial wrote: ↑08 Dec 2022, 02:27

emallini wrote: ↑07 Dec 2022, 16:10 Robin Reid one is deep

Yes it was. Comes across like a decent bloke,
sounds like he is struggling to pay bills which considering his achievements in the sport is sad to hear.

It was brilliant I thought, I see him from time to time in the car he talks about, to be fair it looks like new. I couldn't believe how little he got got the Joe C fight, walking away with £20k ffs! Look what some average fighters are getting today. He seems like a nice fella, I hope it all works out for him

At the time the going rate for a WBO opponent on a sky show was $50k, so after expenses and the pound was strong, £20k was about right.

Coco wrote: ↑08 Dec 2022, 19:23 I'm sure Reid did porn too

Yeah I mentioned this on another thread about him, I’m sure I read he was doing “modelling” in that industry years ago and someone said he was dating former page 3 girl and glamour model Teresa May at one point so it kind of makes sense

They all want the lifestyle that comes with been a top boxer even though the majority don’t earn enough to fund that lifestyle beyond the end of their boxing careers.

They all get weighed in wearing designer boxers, they put their Moncler or Canada Goose coats on after the weigh in, they drive flash cars, they go on fancy holidays, they get the glamorous girlfriend & end up marrying her.

And then they lose big chunks of their purse to the taxman, the promoter, their trainer, fight camp expenses etc. And there’s not that much left.

Many of them end up divorced.

You’ve only got to look at Jamie McDonnell for example. Will have earned well over a million for the two Kameda fights & the Inoue fight but he’s divorced now & is up at the crack of dawn plastering every weekday.

When should you consider yourself millionaire?

When your net worth is £1.5m+

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑09 Dec 2022, 07:21 When should you consider yourself millionaire?

When your net worth is £1.5m+

1,000,000 if my maths is correct

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑09 Dec 2022, 08:28

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑09 Dec 2022, 07:21 When should you consider yourself millionaire?

When your net worth is £1.5m+

1,000,000 if my maths is correct

Yh that’s correct. But would you consider yourself a millionaire with that amount? You know what I mean?

I remember speaking to someone a while back. He’s a day trader and he said he didn’t really consider himself a millionaire until he hit £2m.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑09 Dec 2022, 08:31

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑09 Dec 2022, 08:28

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑09 Dec 2022, 07:21 When should you consider yourself millionaire?

When your net worth is £1.5m+

1,000,000 if my maths is correct

Yh that’s correct. But would you consider yourself a millionaire with that amount? You know what I mean?

I remember speaking to someone a while back. He’s a day trader and he said he didn’t really consider himself a millionaire until he hit £2m.

If I had a million I'd have 999,980 more than I do now, I'd feel loaded

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑09 Dec 2022, 08:35

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑09 Dec 2022, 08:31

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑09 Dec 2022, 08:28

1,000,000 if my maths is correct

Yh that’s correct. But would you consider yourself a millionaire with that amount? You know what I mean?

I remember speaking to someone a while back. He’s a day trader and he said he didn’t really consider himself a millionaire until he hit £2m.

If I had a million I'd have 999,980 more than I do now, I'd feel loaded