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jimmystone wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 11:28

Dioufy wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 11:09 Hearn gonna sue BBBC. That guy.

Really?

Hearn's pockets are way deeper than the Board's. Know anybody who would do Pro Bono on this, Loynsey? Maybe they already have people? The Board don't have the money to fight anything if they have to pay cash monies.

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 12:40

daz74 wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 12:33

handsofstone wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 12:26 I've always said Hearn gets a lot of unwarranted stick and I still think that, he definitely has his haters who love to blame him for things that aren't his fault or criticise good match ups but let's be honest he's ruined himself here, from here or in his integrity's finished, he should've pulled the show, publicly stood by Benn until confirmation, B samples or whatever then see what's what but he chose to cover it up and risk the life of Chris Eubank Jr even more than it already was

He should of pulled the show ? ….he did pull the show
Risk the life of CEJ ? ….. the fighter choose to step through the ring ropes …

You definitely either work for DAZN or are just trolling us

CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 12:31 Disgraceful fudging from Matt Christie on the boxing news podcast “we need an investigation to find out how this substance came to be in Conor Benin’s system”.

1103924 wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 12:41 If the BBBofC don't recognize VADA, is there anything in the board's rules that allows them to call the fight off?

olij999 wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 12:43

olij999 wrote: ↑05 Oct 2022, 11:15

olij999 wrote: ↑05 Oct 2022, 10:23 One question. Which boxing authority licenses Connor Benn? Reason for asking is that the Board website does not list him (https://bbbofc.com/boxers?page=1&likeNa ... habet=AtoZ) whereas it does list Eubank (https://bbbofc.com/boxers?page=1&likeNa ... habet=AtoZ). Even if you are a suspended BBBofC licence holder, you'd be listed, so it's not that.

Reason for looking into it is because the "not in the interests of boxing" ruling seemed odd - if a British licence-holder had tested positive, they could have suspended him until the B sample was tested and could have said that the fight could not take place as one of the two boxers was under suspension. So has the organisation that licences him not yet suspended him?

OK, no takers for this question so far. The EH interview above talks as if Conor Benn is a BBBofC licence holder. Wonder if he has been removed from the website so he does not appear as either suspended or not suspended (in case either position creates a problem for the BBBofC). All a bit curious.

And as for EH saying that they cannot suspend him because the BBBofC does not recognise VADA, they potentially can, by either of two other routes:

- Reg 25.1.1(c) says that misconduct includes "any failure to honour any contractual obligation". If the need to pass VADA testing has been built into the contract, then failing the test would appear to breach that contractual obligation, so misconduct. However, have the BBBofC seen the contract?

- Under Reg 25.1.1, misconduct means "conduct detrimental to the interests of boxing or the public interest". As the Board have already said it is not in the public interest for the contest to go ahead, that would appear to indicate that Benn has done something that fits within this definition.

So they have routes to suspend if they are minded to do so.

daz74 wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 12:40

handsofstone wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 12:37

daz74 wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 12:33
He should of pulled the show ? ….he did pull the show
Risk the life of CEJ ? ….. the fighter choose to step through the ring ropes …

Aw fair play for Hearn to wait 2 weeks until he's exposed , do all he can to save the show including legal action before pulling it, boxers want to fight and sometimes need saving from themselves, Eddie and Kalle tried to make a fight with one guy juiced to the gills, they're a disgrace

yeah he’s so juiced up he passed UKAD and he’s not suspended

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 12:49 As fight week approached. I was looking forward to this..

I m gutted that it's not happening..

I'll be more pumped next time now.. Can't wait for CEJ to smash Benn.

KiwiRider wrote: ↑05 Oct 2022, 16:07

Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑05 Oct 2022, 16:02

KiwiRider wrote: ↑05 Oct 2022, 15:28

Mexican hens??

I eggspect Eggie Hearn will use that eggplination as an egguse for the fight to still happhen. I'm not eggagerating, either.

Loving your work Ted

handsofstone wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 12:50

daz74 wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 12:40

handsofstone wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 12:37
Aw fair play for Hearn to wait 2 weeks until he's exposed , do all he can to save the show including legal action before pulling it, boxers want to fight and sometimes need saving from themselves, Eddie and Kalle tried to make a fight with one guy juiced to the gills, they're a disgrace

yeah he’s so juiced up he passed UKAD and he’s not suspended

Haha using UKAD as some moral compass, they're not fit for purpose, check Fury and Whyte ffs, VADA on the other hand are the best testers in all of sport which is why Benn fucked up, the thing he pissed hot for increases testosterone, do you not think maybe UKAD maybe need to update their list?

handsofstone wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 12:50

daz74 wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 12:40

handsofstone wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 12:37
Aw fair play for Hearn to wait 2 weeks until he's exposed , do all he can to save the show including legal action before pulling it, boxers want to fight and sometimes need saving from themselves, Eddie and Kalle tried to make a fight with one guy juiced to the gills, they're a disgrace

yeah he’s so juiced up he passed UKAD and he’s not suspended

Haha using UKAD as some moral compass, they're not fit for purpose, check Fury and Whyte ffs, VADA on the other hand are the best testers in all of sport which is why Benn fucked up, the thing he pissed hot for increases testosterone, do you not think maybe UKAD maybe need to update their list?

daz74 wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 12:56

handsofstone wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 12:50

daz74 wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 12:40
yeah he’s so juiced up he passed UKAD and he’s not suspended

Haha using UKAD as some moral compass, they're not fit for purpose, check Fury and Whyte ffs, VADA on the other hand are the best testers in all of sport which is why Benn fucked up, the thing he pissed hot for increases testosterone, do you not think maybe UKAD maybe need to update their list?

the board use UKAD, and so direct your irritation towards the board

daz74 wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 12:40

handsofstone wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 12:37

daz74 wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 12:33
He should of pulled the show ? ….he did pull the show
Risk the life of CEJ ? ….. the fighter choose to step through the ring ropes …

Aw fair play for Hearn to wait 2 weeks until he's exposed , do all he can to save the show including legal action before pulling it, boxers want to fight and sometimes need saving from themselves, Eddie and Kalle tried to make a fight with one guy juiced to the gills, they're a disgrace

yeah he’s so juiced up he passed UKAD and he’s not suspended

handsofstone wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 12:50

daz74 wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 12:40

handsofstone wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 12:37
Aw fair play for Hearn to wait 2 weeks until he's exposed , do all he can to save the show including legal action before pulling it, boxers want to fight and sometimes need saving from themselves, Eddie and Kalle tried to make a fight with one guy juiced to the gills, they're a disgrace

yeah he’s so juiced up he passed UKAD and he’s not suspended

Haha using UKAD as some moral compass, they're not fit for purpose, check Fury and Whyte ffs, VADA on the other hand are the best testers in all of sport which is why Benn fucked up, the thing he pissed hot for increases testosterone, do you not think maybe UKAD maybe need to update their list?

handsofstone wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 13:00

daz74 wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 12:56

handsofstone wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 12:50
Haha using UKAD as some moral compass, they're not fit for purpose, check Fury and Whyte ffs, VADA on the other hand are the best testers in all of sport which is why Benn fucked up, the thing he pissed hot for increases testosterone, do you not think maybe UKAD maybe need to update their list?

the board use UKAD, and so direct your irritation towards the board

UKAD didn't involve VADA though didn't they,who was that again? i said yesterday that technically Hearn and Benn were correct in regards to Benn being allowed to fight, morally it was wrong though and unlike a lot of people I expected better from Eddie Hearn, drug cheats need banned for life and could maybe partake in fighting other cheats, I'd watch tbh but keep them away from honest athletes

JamesPhilips wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 11:44

maverick23 wrote: ↑05 Oct 2022, 16:10

JamesPhilips wrote: ↑05 Oct 2022, 15:46

Lol what fighter / fight is Hearn referring to here?

Billy Joe vs Andrade. The contract was VADA testing which is what the state in the US used. The WBO stripped Billy Joe because the fight couldn’t take place there. Interestingly Billy Joe wasn’t banned by the BBBC because they didn’t find a positive test and the substance isn’t on their banned list (which is in-line with WADA).

Slightly different scenario because I’d imagine that if that fight was due to take place in the U.K. it would have happened.

Thanks. Who was BJS signed with then? FW?

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 12:43

CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 12:31 Disgraceful fudging from Matt Christie on the boxing news podcast “we need an investigation to find out how this substance came to be in Conor Benin’s system”.

Let’s examine the options, Matt:

(1) Benn took it






So, yeah. Best investigate. The whole thing is mired in uncertainty otherwise

JimJim2009 wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 13:18 As the dust starts to settle, I wonder if it will dawn on Eddie how badly he's played this. He is not stupid. This has transcended boxing and he's not going to come out of it looking good. To me, he's forfeit any moral high ground for the rest of his career when it comes to drugs in boxing. I think he'll regret how he's played this one out and his dazn paymasters can't be happy at his very public handling of it all. He's more or less the face of dazn even though he's not part of the organisation. It does not look good.

ewenhay wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 13:16 Should be a 2 year ban imo.

But he'll probably get 6 months and the fight will be rescheduled for April

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 12:40

daz74 wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 12:33

handsofstone wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 12:26 I've always said Hearn gets a lot of unwarranted stick and I still think that, he definitely has his haters who love to blame him for things that aren't his fault or criticise good match ups but let's be honest he's ruined himself here, from here or in his integrity's finished, he should've pulled the show, publicly stood by Benn until confirmation, B samples or whatever then see what's what but he chose to cover it up and risk the life of Chris Eubank Jr even more than it already was

He should of pulled the show ? ….he did pull the show
Risk the life of CEJ ? ….. the fighter choose to step through the ring ropes …

You definitely either work for DAZN or are just trolling us

daz74 wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 13:23

JimJim2009 wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 13:18 As the dust starts to settle, I wonder if it will dawn on Eddie how badly he's played this. He is not stupid. This has transcended boxing and he's not going to come out of it looking good. To me, he's forfeit any moral high ground for the rest of his career when it comes to drugs in boxing. I think he'll regret how he's played this one out and his dazn paymasters can't be happy at his very public handling of it all. He's more or less the face of dazn even though he's not part of the organisation. It does not look good.

you think any other promoter would’ve handled it differently ?

daz74 wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 12:40

handsofstone wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 12:37

daz74 wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 12:33
He should of pulled the show ? ….he did pull the show
Risk the life of CEJ ? ….. the fighter choose to step through the ring ropes …

Aw fair play for Hearn to wait 2 weeks until he's exposed , do all he can to save the show including legal action before pulling it, boxers want to fight and sometimes need saving from themselves, Eddie and Kalle tried to make a fight with one guy juiced to the gills, they're a disgrace

yeah he’s so juiced up he passed UKAD and he’s not suspended

maverick23 wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 13:02

handsofstone wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 12:50

daz74 wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 12:40
yeah he’s so juiced up he passed UKAD and he’s not suspended

Haha using UKAD as some moral compass, they're not fit for purpose, check Fury and Whyte ffs, VADA on the other hand are the best testers in all of sport which is why Benn fucked up, the thing he pissed hot for increases testosterone, do you not think maybe UKAD maybe need to update their list?

It’s on the UKAD list too. They just didn’t have a positive test for it because it sounds like it was out of his system when they did test him.

From what I’ve read about it it’s not been used to give him abnormal testosterone levels. It’s probably been used to give him a normal level due to a likely depletion in testosterone following a cycle of goodies.