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African Monkey wrote: ↑19 Mar 2023, 21:34 Kabayel has the Euro title for about the 12th time

African Monkey wrote: ↑19 Mar 2023, 21:34

JamesPhilips wrote: ↑19 Mar 2023, 18:28 I don’t know about the forum, but I’m really looking forward to the Campbell Hatton fight against another non puncher. It’s amazing,, almost like they know how bad he is.

I do find it amusing how they're sort of stuck trying to push him now even though we all know how bad he is. They'll have to pad his record out to about 30-0 before cashing him out, and not chuck him on PEDs after the Conor Benn saga.

If Kadiru was undefeated and was having a tune up for a European title shot against Wardley or something, then yeah, I'd see the logic in having him on, but he's already been exposed, Kabayel has the Euro title for about the 12th time, so yeah, what's the point of him being on?

maverick23 wrote: ↑26 Mar 2023, 16:39 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxin ... -bout.html

Not ideal going in to fight week.

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote: ↑16 Mar 2023, 12:00

polecateddy wrote: ↑16 Mar 2023, 08:53

watsupdoc87 wrote: ↑15 Mar 2023, 19:06

Yeah i think eddies mocking the paris fury tread there

Looks like he only went back under VADA testing around the 11th February. So prior to that you’d wonder how efficient UKAD really are at testing athletes who are based in America. It seems like a system open to abuse to me.

The thing is adding a ton of muscle doesn't really help him. Huge muscle bellies will sap all of his oxygen and he'll gas and fade. He should be working harder on building his conditioning and improving his workrate so he can throw more punches a round.

garethhop wrote: ↑26 Mar 2023, 17:39 There is zero noise about this fight which will be made even worse by the Premier League restart.

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑26 Mar 2023, 17:43

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote: ↑16 Mar 2023, 12:00

polecateddy wrote: ↑16 Mar 2023, 08:53

Looks like he only went back under VADA testing around the 11th February. So prior to that you’d wonder how efficient UKAD really are at testing athletes who are based in America. It seems like a system open to abuse to me.

The thing is adding a ton of muscle doesn't really help him. Huge muscle bellies will sap all of his oxygen and he'll gas and fade. He should be working harder on building his conditioning and improving his workrate so he can throw more punches a round.

Huge biceps contribute zero to puncher power either. Its just tshirt muscles.

Joshua's pretty brittle psychologically I think having big muscles makes him feel better.

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑26 Mar 2023, 17:43

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote: ↑16 Mar 2023, 12:00

polecateddy wrote: ↑16 Mar 2023, 08:53

Looks like he only went back under VADA testing around the 11th February. So prior to that you’d wonder how efficient UKAD really are at testing athletes who are based in America. It seems like a system open to abuse to me.

The thing is adding a ton of muscle doesn't really help him. Huge muscle bellies will sap all of his oxygen and he'll gas and fade. He should be working harder on building his conditioning and improving his workrate so he can throw more punches a round.

Huge biceps contribute zero to puncher power either. Its just tshirt muscles.

Joshua's pretty brittle psychologically I think having big muscles makes him feel better.

KiwiRider wrote: ↑26 Mar 2023, 18:11

garethhop wrote: ↑26 Mar 2023, 17:39 There is zero noise about this fight which will be made even worse by the Premier League restart.

Mate, I only clicked on the thread to find out why the heck it has so may posts
No one gives a flying f*ck about this fight!
It's utterly meaningless.

joshj909 wrote: ↑27 Mar 2023, 02:38

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑26 Mar 2023, 17:43

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote: ↑16 Mar 2023, 12:00

The thing is adding a ton of muscle doesn't really help him. Huge muscle bellies will sap all of his oxygen and he'll gas and fade. He should be working harder on building his conditioning and improving his workrate so he can throw more punches a round.

Huge biceps contribute zero to puncher power either. Its just tshirt muscles.

Joshua's pretty brittle psychologically I think having big muscles makes him feel better.

Do they not help with hooks and uppercuts?

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑27 Mar 2023, 10:18

joshj909 wrote: ↑27 Mar 2023, 02:38

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑26 Mar 2023, 17:43

Huge biceps contribute zero to puncher power either. Its just tshirt muscles.

Joshua's pretty brittle psychologically I think having big muscles makes him feel better.

Do they not help with hooks and uppercuts?

No, not really, if you're generating the power of your hooks and uppercuts from your arms alone, there will be very little on them.

The hook involves the rotation of the hips and girdle of muscles around the abdomen, with the shoulder providing an additional fulcrum. Big biceps really do nothing for punchpower.

The uppercut similarly, starts from below the waist, with the pelvis being rotated, followed by the upperbody and finally shoulder and elbow. The momentum isn't driven by the biceps it's the shoulder that rotates, and the bicep is only engaged to bend the arm, which remains static until the point of impact.

Big bulging muscles are one of the most overrated aspects of a fighter's assets.

Some guys are naturally thickset, like foreman in his prime, or liston, but Joshua's arms have clearly been pumped to ludicrous proportions using weights to bulk up.

si7dog7 wrote: ↑27 Mar 2023, 12:58

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑27 Mar 2023, 10:18

joshj909 wrote: ↑27 Mar 2023, 02:38

Do they not help with hooks and uppercuts?

No, not really, if you're generating the power of your hooks and uppercuts from your arms alone, there will be very little on them.

The hook involves the rotation of the hips and girdle of muscles around the abdomen, with the shoulder providing an additional fulcrum. Big biceps really do nothing for punchpower.

The uppercut similarly, starts from below the waist, with the pelvis being rotated, followed by the upperbody and finally shoulder and elbow. The momentum isn't driven by the biceps it's the shoulder that rotates, and the bicep is only engaged to bend the arm, which remains static until the point of impact.

Big bulging muscles are one of the most overrated aspects of a fighter's assets.

Some guys are naturally thickset, like foreman in his prime, or liston, but Joshua's arms have clearly been pumped to ludicrous proportions using weights to bulk up.

It’s all about angles and leverage. Leverage and ableness to adapt is key.

Muscles mean fook all .

tonyevs wrote: ↑27 Mar 2023, 03:04

KiwiRider wrote: ↑26 Mar 2023, 18:11

garethhop wrote: ↑26 Mar 2023, 17:39 There is zero noise about this fight which will be made even worse by the Premier League restart.

Mate, I only clicked on the thread to find out why the heck it has so may posts
No one gives a flying f*ck about this fight!
It's utterly meaningless.

Yep agreed. None of my mates talking about this fight .. a very noticeable lack of any buzz about it.

*Big muscle thing. AJ when he first turned pro was quite lean looking (for a heavyweight!). Whilst I accept big muscles don't make you that 1 punch KO artist by default .. they certainly make you stronger and add weight to your punches.

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑27 Mar 2023, 13:32

si7dog7 wrote: ↑27 Mar 2023, 12:58

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑27 Mar 2023, 10:18

No, not really, if you're generating the power of your hooks and uppercuts from your arms alone, there will be very little on them.

The hook involves the rotation of the hips and girdle of muscles around the abdomen, with the shoulder providing an additional fulcrum. Big biceps really do nothing for punchpower.

The uppercut similarly, starts from below the waist, with the pelvis being rotated, followed by the upperbody and finally shoulder and elbow. The momentum isn't driven by the biceps it's the shoulder that rotates, and the bicep is only engaged to bend the arm, which remains static until the point of impact.

Big bulging muscles are one of the most overrated aspects of a fighter's assets.

Some guys are naturally thickset, like foreman in his prime, or liston, but Joshua's arms have clearly been pumped to ludicrous proportions using weights to bulk up.

It’s all about angles and leverage. Leverage and ableness to adapt is key.

Muscles mean fook all .

Exactly, it's transfer of momentum, and that requires explosiveness, adroit footwork, and flexibility.

Look at Tyson in his prime, he was 205-210 at his peak weight, and incredibly fast and agile, whilst he was built, he didn't have huge bulging muscles, he was just built like a tank.

gregregegg wrote: ↑27 Mar 2023, 16:27 AJ secures a zillion dollar deal with DAZN....

DAZN cant even get views free to air and are probably gunna have to get a last minute hero like johny fisher in to sell tickets so the arena looks full, hahaha.

What a time to be alive.

forcefraser wrote: ↑27 Mar 2023, 17:16 Franklin gonna smoke AJ early