Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 14 Sep 2008, 09:03













Stable fought in Britain a few times, notably against Dave Charnley, who beat him. Stable was on a hot run when he lost to "Dartford Dave".kikibalt wrote:
Jose Stable...C.1960
He fought Chic Calderwood, and he licked Chic Calderwood. Henry came in at 168, which means he was stuck between divisions.kikibalt wrote:You guys remember this thrilling fighter from Yesteryear?
Henry Hank and manager Harry Baxter
Nice photos, Bennie....bennie wrote:Juan Manuel and Rafael fight hard and play hard.![]()
These photos did the 'rounds' a couple of years ago on the net, and caused a bit of a sensation. A couple of world champions, a couple of 'raving irons'.kikibalt wrote:Nice photos, Bennie....bennie wrote:Juan Manuel and Rafael fight hard and play hard.![]()
Hank lost to John McCormack in you neck of the woods, Bennie...bennie wrote:He fought Chic Calderwood, and he licked Chic Calderwood. Henry came in at 168, which means he was stuck between divisions.kikibalt wrote:You guys remember this thrilling fighter from Yesteryear?
Henry Hank and manager Harry Baxter
Yeah. Hank fought EVERYONE.kikibalt wrote:Hank lost to John McCormack in you neck of the woods, Bennie...bennie wrote:He fought Chic Calderwood, and he licked Chic Calderwood. Henry came in at 168, which means he was stuck between divisions.kikibalt wrote:You guys remember this thrilling fighter from Yesteryear?
Henry Hank and manager Harry Baxter

Brian . . . E-mail me with your mailing address and I'll get your ticket in the mail for you. Also, when you book your room, be sure to mention that you are associated with the WBHOF for the special rate. There should be no problem, but if there is, be sure to notify me and I'll make sure things are taken care of. This is GREAT! I really look forward to meeting you. We have Kiki, Dagos, Scartissue, Pug, Randy & myself reping this thread.Expug wrote:This is doable.Rick Farris wrote:Brian . . . We need you out here, and yes, I will make sure you have a ticket. Just let me know as soon as you can, so I can see that you have a seat right next to your Uncle John, who will be sitting between Frank & Roger. Seriously, let me know by E-mail ([email protected]). I regret only having one ticket for you, but the event is a sell-out already. It will take place at the Los Angeles LAX Airport Marriot Hotel on November 15th (Sat.). If you need a room, the Hotel is offering a special rate ($99 per nite) for those associated with the WBHOF. I have the tickets, and will see you are at the same table as Frank, Rog, Randy and Scar. Gene LeBell has also been invited, but he has yet to RSVP. I'd really like you to meet him.Expug wrote:Rick, I will know in a week or so about my November work schedule.
If its not too late and if I can swing it, is it still ok for me to make the trip out there?
Uncle John said I can take his place at the event.
Maybe you can shoot me some details on a PM .
Location, time ,etc.
Brian
-Rick
Im gonna book a room a room at the Marriott.
I'll be there.
I'll fly out Friday and leave early Sunday.
It will be great meeting the guys on the thread.
Count me in and let me know how much I owe for the ticket.
Looking forward to it.
Brian
I am going to book a room, so Connie and I can spent the nite there and not have to drive home that nite, better safe then sorry.....Good :idea:Rick Farris wrote:Brian . . . We need you out here, and yes, I will make sure you have a ticket. Just let me know as soon as you can, so I can see that you have a seat right next to your Uncle John, who will be sitting between Frank & Roger. Seriously, let me know by E-mail ([email protected]). I regret only having one ticket for you, but the event is a sell-out already. It will take place at the Los Angeles LAX Airport Marriot Hotel on November 15th (Sat.). If you need a room, the Hotel is offering a special rate ($99 per nite) for those associated with the WBHOF. I have the tickets, and will see you are at the same table as Frank, Rog, Randy and Scar. Gene LeBell has also been invited, but he has yet to RSVP. I'd really like you to meet him.
-Rick
This is doable.
Im gonna book a room a room at the Marriott.
I'll be there.
I'll fly out Friday and leave early Sunday.
It will be great meeting the guys on the thread.
Count me in and let me know how much I owe for the ticket.
Looking forward to it.
Brian
Brian . . . E-mail me with your mailing address and I'll get your ticket in the mail for you. Also, when you book your room, be sure to mention that you are associated with the WBHOF for the special rate. There should be no problem, but if there is, be sure to notify me and I'll make sure things are taken care of. This is GREAT! I really look forward to meeting you. We have Kiki, Dagos, Scartissue, Pug, Randy & myself reping this thread.
-Rick
I was thinking of doing the same thing. Besides I might want more than my usual two beers. Regardless I'm sure I won't feel like driving home that night.kikibalt wrote:I am going to book a room, so Connie and I can spent the nite there and not have to drive home that nite, better safe then sorry.....Good :idea:Rick Farris wrote:Brian . . . We need you out here, and yes, I will make sure you have a ticket. Just let me know as soon as you can, so I can see that you have a seat right next to your Uncle John, who will be sitting between Frank & Roger. Seriously, let me know by E-mail ([email protected]). I regret only having one ticket for you, but the event is a sell-out already. It will take place at the Los Angeles LAX Airport Marriot Hotel on November 15th (Sat.). If you need a room, the Hotel is offering a special rate ($99 per nite) for those associated with the WBHOF. I have the tickets, and will see you are at the same table as Frank, Rog, Randy and Scar. Gene LeBell has also been invited, but he has yet to RSVP. I'd really like you to meet him.
-Rick
This is doable.
Im gonna book a room a room at the Marriott.
I'll be there.
I'll fly out Friday and leave early Sunday.
It will be great meeting the guys on the thread.
Count me in and let me know how much I owe for the ticket.
Looking forward to it.
Brian
Brian . . . E-mail me with your mailing address and I'll get your ticket in the mail for you. Also, when you book your room, be sure to mention that you are associated with the WBHOF for the special rate. There should be no problem, but if there is, be sure to notify me and I'll make sure things are taken care of. This is GREAT! I really look forward to meeting you. We have Kiki, Dagos, Scartissue, Pug, Randy & myself reping this thread.
-Rick
Look at the determination on Marquez' face. He wasn't going to lose.kikibalt wrote:
LAS VEGAS - SEPTEMBER 13: Juan Manuel Marquez (R) hits Joel Casamayor in the sixth round of their bout at the MGM Grand Garden Arena September 13, 2008 in Las Vegas, Nevada. Marquez won by knockout in the 11th round. (Photo by Ethan Miller/Getty Images)
That was inspirational Frank. I'm sure many will disagree with his perspective. It was one story out of millions.kikibalt wrote:Read this and thought I would share it with you guys
My Dad, the illegal immigrant
From a Chevy's trunk to a home in Orange County: It's still the American dream.
By Gustavo Arellano
September 14, 2008
Millions of Americans point to Ellis Island as the place where their family was first introduced to the United States. Others trace their ancestry to ships that dropped anchor centuries ago in New England. Still more greeted Lady Liberty by way of airplanes and a visa. My father? He fondly remembers the comfortable space in the trunk of a Chevy Bel Air that was his ticket to the American dream.
In 1968, Dad left his dying village of Jomulquillo, in the Mexican state of Zacatecas, to join his three older brothers in East Los Angeles. Eighteen years old, impetuous and with a fourth-grade education, Lorenzo Arellano would have had to do months' worth of paperwork to enter the United States legally -- and there was still no guarantee that he'd be allowed to enter. Youth and a growling stomach have little patience, so my father paid a white woman -- a U.S. citizen -- to sneak him into the United States. In Tijuana, he squeezed into the Chevy's trunk alongside a cousin and another man and prayed.
The Bel Air passed across the U.S.-Mexico border with no problem -- the agents just waved it through. It sped north on Interstate 5 for an hour until it came to the Border Patrol checkpoint just south of San Clemente. The car slowed to a crawl, then stopped. A moment of tension. The migra gave the Chevy the OK to leave.
"We made it!" the other man whispered to Dad and his cousin. They wouldn't speak another word until the woman finally stopped in Chinatown, where two of my uncles greeted young Lorenzo by taking him to a bar and drinking long into the night.
That wasn't the only time Papi entered the United States illegally. Twice, he climbed a fence from Tijuana and ran through the desert east of San Ysidro. Once, he spent a month in jail for using false documents. Perhaps Dad's most dramatic border crossing was when he crawled through a sewage-filled pipeline for about an hour to San Ysidro, in total darkness and with others ahead and behind him. The sewer emptied out near a McDonald's -- insert your own Big Mac joke here.
My father, now a naturalized citizen, never tires of telling these stories to anyone who'll listen -- his eyes light up, he gestures wildly and a smile always cracks wide. And, frankly, neither do I. Although millions of Americans might consider Dad a repeat violator of national sovereignty, I see in his borderland adventures the pluck of the Pilgrims, the resolve of a homesteader, the type of pioneer ethos that has fueled this country for so long. Frederick Jackson Turner was wrong; the American frontier will never close, not as long as there are people like my father who were and are willing to cross deserts, stuff themselves into cars, float across water -- just for the chance to establish themselves in this country and thrive.
Almost every Mexican family I know has followed the same trajectory we have: illegal entry, rough times, hard work leading to success and assimilation for the kids, with the 1986 amnesty helping mucho.
Twenty-nine years of living among illegal immigrants and their American-born children has taught me this truism. And that's why my father's example is crucial and I'll retell it again and again. His story isn't important because it's special; it's important because it's the rule rather than the exception, a rule few want to believe and that therefore must be repeated as often as possible.
I'm glad that my father entered this country illegally. If he had come "the right way," our family's success would've been chalked up as just another example of immigrant can-do. But as an illegal, his accomplishments (as well as mine and my siblings') contradict the conventional wisdom regarding undocumented Mexicans that's been prevalent for this decade. My father's repeated breaking of immigration law is further proof that this country can and does rehabilitate all of her huddled masses, whether legal or not.
Personally, his stories motivate me. If my father could leave his life back in the rancho and risk everything at age 18, I have no excuse to whine about anything. And his stories reward me with the pleasure of watching anti-immigrant loons stumble for words when I ask them to explain how my father and my family could've excelled considering that we come from alien stock.
Dad isn't perfect by any means -- indeed, he's suffered through most of the pathologies that many people attribute to illegal immigrants: Alcoholism. Fecundity. Lack of education. Failure to fully assimilate. It doesn't matter. The life he's crafted for himself is no different from your typical white, middle-class Valley resident who rails about the Mexican invasion.
Does my pride in Dad's outlaw past mean I support a free-for-all at the border? No. We deserve an accurate account of who enters and leaves the United States. We deserve immigrants who don't cheat the system, don't commit crimes against others, who better their communities and don't become burdens. But the traits embodied by Dad and so many more immigrants that spurred them to enter this country illegally -- courage, an indomitable spirit, the ambition to seek a better lot in this country -- are to be lauded and copied. (And spare me the letters about the illegal-entry bit; the Sooners did the same thing, yet we don't flinch when Oklahomans celebrate their spirit). To say this isn't traitorous or even an endorsement of the Reconquista, it's the truth.
We recently celebrated Dad's 57th birthday in the Anaheim home he's just a couple of thousand dollars away from finally paying off. His brothers were there, no longer scared teens running from the law but middle-aged U.S. citizens who want Barack Obama to win the presidential election but hate L.A. Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa (ever since his extramarital affair was uncovered). Their children -- my cousins, almost all children of former illegal immigrants -- sat alongside the pool, feasting on carne asada and keeping an eye on their kids, who don't speak a lick of Spanish. My dad told his tales again, with my uncles corroborating each detail. When we brought out the cake, everyone sang "Happy Birthday" in English. Somewhere, Lou Dobbs cries.
Gustavo Arellano is a contributing editor to Opinion and author of the ¡Ask a Mexican! column in the OC Weekly. His new book, "Orange County: A Personal History," comes out Tuesday.