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Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 14 Sep 2008, 22:00
by Rick Farris
Expug wrote:I'll be there Rog.
I dont know about Danny Boy from the Mariachis though Rog.
You dont wanna see me freakin weeping first time we meet do ya?
Besides , Uncle John has a way of showing up every time that song starts.
You guys best watch the Irish jokes around Dan Hanley's father! Dan's old man may be in his eighties, but he's always ready to "kick some arse". My dad is pretty mellow these days, and looks forward seeing Frank Baltazar. My father has clear memories of the Baltazar boys as they were in the sixties. Last week dad asked me, "Is little Tony going to be there?". I said, "No dad, Tony lives in Arizona now, and he isn't little anymore." My father laughed, "Of course not. But that kid could really fight!" I talked to Gwen Adair again today, and she'll be glad to listen to anything Roger has to say. Of course, she wouldn't dare cross Mrs. Esty! You'll like her Rog, she's one of us.

-Rick

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 14 Sep 2008, 22:02
by Rick Farris
Expug wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:Brian . . . We need you out here, and yes, I will make sure you have a ticket. Just let me know as soon as you can, so I can see that you have a seat right next to your Uncle John, who will be sitting between Frank & Roger. Seriously, let me know by E-mail ([email protected]). I regret only having one ticket for you, but the event is a sell-out already. It will take place at the Los Angeles LAX Airport Marriot Hotel on November 15th (Sat.). If you need a room, the Hotel is offering a special rate ($99 per nite) for those associated with the WBHOF. I have the tickets, and will see you are at the same table as Frank, Rog, Randy and Scar. Gene LeBell has also been invited, but he has yet to RSVP. I'd really like you to meet him.

-Rick
This is doable.
Im gonna book a room a room at the Marriott.
I'll be there.
I'll fly out Friday and leave early Sunday.
It will be great meeting the guys on the thread.
Count me in and let me know how much I owe for the ticket.
Looking forward to it.


Brian

Brian . . . E-mail me with your mailing address and I'll get your ticket in the mail for you. Also, when you book your room, be sure to mention that you are associated with the WBHOF for the special rate. There should be no problem, but if there is, be sure to notify me and I'll make sure things are taken care of. This is GREAT! I really look forward to meeting you. We have Kiki, Dagos, Scartissue, Pug, Randy & myself reping this thread.

-Rick
I am going to book a room, so Connie and I can spent the nite there and not have to drive home that nite, better safe then sorry.....Good :idea:
Thanks Rick,
Im really looking forward to meeting you also . And of course the rest of the crew.
Rick I'll shoot you an E-mail tommorow with my address.
Or would it be easier to just send it via PM?
Pug, best to E-mail me at [email protected] I don't always pick-up PM's.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 14 Sep 2008, 22:09
by Randyman
dagosd2000 wrote:
Expug wrote:I'll be there Rog.
I dont know about Danny Boy from the Mariachis though Rog.
You dont wanna see me freakin weeping first time we meet do ya?
Besides , Uncle John has a way of showing up every time that song starts.
Pug.Don't worry about the cryin' part. When the Mariachis start playin'"Mama",all the Italians at the table will get weepy. And then when they play,"Por Un Amor" all the Mexicans will be shedding tears. I hope someone gets a picture of it.
Hey Pug, glad to hear you're going to be there too. I'm really looking forward to meeting you. Hey, don't worry about shedding a few tears my friend. I think all of us here are the same way. Hell, I tear up when I hear the theme song for "Father Knows best", if that's any indication.

Rick, it's a great thing you are doing my friend. I know I speak for all of us when I say Thanks. To steal a line from Bogie, as Rick, in Casablance "This may be the beginning of a beautiful friendship".

Randy

Andy William's "Danny Boy" on Youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujr8dQJgQUU

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 14 Sep 2008, 22:22
by dagosd2000
Randyman wrote:
dagosd2000 wrote:
Expug wrote:I'll be there Rog.
Rick, it's a great thing you are doing my friend. I know I speak for all of us when I say Thanks. To steal a line from Bogie, as Rick, in Casablance "This may be the beginning of a beautiful friendship".

Randy
Yeah Rick
This is a real show of class. Wouldn't it be funny if one of us told the "wrong" joke or something. There's a big rumble at our table. Someone asks,"What's going on?"
"Oh it's the Boxrec boys.They're working things out the only way they know how."
Then the Mariachis start playing Danny Boy and we're all arm in arm cryin' watching Pug sing.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 14 Sep 2008, 22:29
by Expug
Yep, listening to me sing would bring a tear to a glass eye.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 14 Sep 2008, 22:33
by Randyman
Yeah Rick
This is a real show of class. Wouldn't it be funny if one of us told the "wrong" joke or something. There's a big rumble at our table. Someone asks,"What's going on?"
"Oh it's the Boxrec boys.They're working things out the only way they know how."
Then the Mariachis start playing Danny Boy and we're all arm in arm cryin' watching Pug sing.
With a pint in each hand of course or it just wouldn't be right. Rog, that had me laughing out loud!

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 15 Sep 2008, 00:00
by Chuck1052
Rick, thanks for the offer. Count me in!

- Chuck Johnston

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 15 Sep 2008, 01:16
by Rick Farris
Yeah Rick
This is a real show of class. Wouldn't it be funny if one of us told the "wrong" joke or something. There's a big rumble at our table. Someone asks,"What's going on?"
"Oh it's the Boxrec boys.They're working things out the only way they know how."
Then the Mariachis start playing Danny Boy and we're all arm in arm cryin' watching Pug sing.[/quote]





Maybe Pug can sing, however, the Irish I have in me is best put toward a scrap, I can't sing a lick. I don't know about the Hanley's ability to sing, but I know Dan Sr. likes a scrap, and the kid, as diplomatic as he is, will thrown down at the drop of a hat also. Let's not discuss the Baltazar's ability to fight, Hell, the whole lot are Hall of Famers, and the Italians, Dagos used to trade blows with Kenny Norton, who whipped Ali, and Randy, I know that kid can fight (even if he ain't a kid anymore) he was trained by an old school master, who also happened to train one of the guys we'll be inducting that night, Young Firpo, whose real name is Guido Bardelli, which brings us back to the other Italian-American at our tables, John, Firpo's son, who'll be accepting his old man's induction into the WBHOF. Yeah Rog, we gotta rough table, at least by my standards! All we need here is Bennie, and then, GOD SAVE THE QUEEN!!!!!

-Rick

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 15 Sep 2008, 01:27
by Rick Farris
Chuck1052 wrote:Rick, thanks for the offer. Count me in!

- Chuck Johnston
Will do Chuck. Please send me your mailing address and you'll get the last ticket. Now guys, we have a REAL bona-fide Historian at our table, and Chuck, my E-mail address is [email protected]. Guys we ALL have a lot of historical experience, but Chuck Johnston is a guy who puts in endless hours of research, digging up facts about the fighters we love, and many we have never heard of, or at least know about. This makes our tables as perfect as they can get. Thanks to all of you for agreeing to be a part of this. If I can do anything to make this evening better for any of you, please let me know. Believe it or not, it's the contributions to boxing that all of you make here on this thread, that will shape the future of the WBHOF. This is an organization that a few of us are reconfiguring, to make it what it once was intended to be. Chuck, if you need to spend the night, the LAX Airport Marriott is offering a special deal ($99 per nite) to all associated with the WBHOF. When making a reservation, please be sure to mention this to get the rate. If there is any problem, let me know and I will take care of it for you. Personally speaking, I am honored that you will be joining us!

-Rick

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 15 Sep 2008, 03:15
by bennie
kikibalt wrote:Image
Randy, my mom and dad renewing their vows at St. Mary's.
1984
Great photo. Everything is in this photo.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 15 Sep 2008, 03:17
by bennie
Rick Farris wrote:Yeah Rick
This is a real show of class. Wouldn't it be funny if one of us told the "wrong" joke or something. There's a big rumble at our table. Someone asks,"What's going on?"
"Oh it's the Boxrec boys.They're working things out the only way they know how."
Then the Mariachis start playing Danny Boy and we're all arm in arm cryin' watching Pug sing.




Maybe Pug can sing, however, the Irish I have in me is best put toward a scrap, I can't sing a lick. I don't know about the Hanley's ability to sing, but I know Dan Sr. likes a scrap, and the kid, as diplomatic as he is, will thrown down at the drop of a hat also. Let's not discuss the Baltazar's ability to fight, Hell, the whole lot are Hall of Famers, and the Italians, Dagos used to trade blows with Kenny Norton, who whipped Ali, and Randy, I know that kid can fight (even if he ain't a kid anymore) he was trained by an old school master, who also happened to train one of the guys we'll be inducting that night, Young Firpo, whose real name is Guido Bardelli, which brings us back to the other Italian-American at our tables, John, Firpo's son, who'll be accepting his old man's induction into the WBHOF. Yeah Rog, we gotta rough table, at least by my standards! All we need here is Bennie, and then, GOD SAVE THE QUEEN!!!!!

-Rick[/quote]


Rick is clearly a Sex Pistols fan.
:wink:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 15 Sep 2008, 03:25
by bennie
Rick Farris wrote:For Bennie . . .

Bennie, today I'm a lighting director on an American TV series that debuts here on October 14th. It's called "Eli Stone" and the star is a Brit who is a quite a boxing fan, Johnnie Lee Miller. Johnnie was married to Angelina Jolie for four years, but they divorced in the late 90's. Johnnie is also a football fan and likes the Chelsea FC team. I know that Johnny likes Amir Khan, and was unaware of his recent KO loss. I've printed out some KO photos from that fight that Frank posted here and I'm going to take them to work tomorrow to show him. When we spoke on Friday, Johnnie was unaware the Khan had been flattened in 54 seconds by the Coumbian. Are you familiar with Johnnie Lee Miller? I really don't know of his background aside from his marriage to Jolie? Just curious.

-Rick Farris
In all honesty, Rick, I have never even heard of him. He will be happy that Chelsea are top of the league here, at least, but those photos will make pretty grim viewing. Khan was said to be back in the gym the next day and fights again in Birmingham on December 6 (no opponent yet selected, but he won't be a banger).

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 15 Sep 2008, 03:33
by bennie
Rick Farris wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Image
I met Roland LaStarza in 1964, when I was 12. This was the year I started boxing, and the former heavyweight contender was an actor in those days, co-starring on a short-lived Warner Bros. TV series, "Gallant Men", which was a WW2 episodic along the lines of "Combat", which was MGM-TV's more successful WW2 series of the era. My grandfather was a Warner Bros. lighting director, close to retirement, and he knew I'd get a kick out of meeting a guy who challenged the great Rocky Marciano for the heavyweight title. LaStarza was surprised how much I knew about his career, and I remember when we shook hands, his hand was HUGE. He was a kind man, and smoked a big stogey and took the time to converse with a kid who loved boxing.

Roland LaStarza was a helluva fighter, a good actor and a class act! LaStarza is one of only five men to take Marciano the distance during the Rock's career (Ted Lowry did it twice). I think Roland LaStarza's record merits posting here?

-Rick Farris
Nice memory. Roland was said to have been robbed in the first Rocky fight, although I've never seen it.
Marciano was good in those rematches.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 15 Sep 2008, 03:35
by bennie
Randyman wrote:I missed all the fights last night to attend the wedding of the daughter of an old friend yesterday. The reception lasted well into the night, as I knew it would. I don’t regret it though. It was a great day and a great wedding. My Friend, Ricardo, is from Guatemala, his wife was from either El Paso, Texas or Juarez, Mexico, she was never 100% clear on that, I’m not sure she ever really knew. Or maybe I’m the one that wasn’t clear.

This family is very special to my family. Many years ago when my wife and I were renting, they lived in the house behind us, on the same lot. It’s ironic because for the first year Ricardo and I did not exactly hit it off. Our kids became friends and so did our wives but with Ricardo and I it took a while. In time we all became almost like one big family on that property. In time Ricardo became much more than my friend. He became more like family. All of them did. They were humble beyond belief. Decent, hardworking, good people. The wife, Socorro passed away a couple of years ago. She was in her late forties. It was hard on Ricardo. Their kids are the salt of the Earth. Their kids and ours have remained friends over the years. More like cousins than friends.

Years ago when I was out of work and on disability for a few months, Socorro came up to me and handed me some money. I was puzzled and asked “What’s this?” She said to me. “You are on disability, take this”. Now, you should know, that even while on disability I was making more money than Ricardo and Socorro combined. They were not people of means. They were struggling. Barely making ends meet, if even that. So naturally I couldn’t accept the money, $75.00. I tried to give it back but she wouldn’t take it. Their daughter Melina was with her. She said to me, almost pleading” Randy, you have to take the money, my mother will be hurt, she won’t understand”. So I accepted the money. I have to tell you guys. It was one of the most humbling experience in my life. This woman was an angel. They both did many acts of kindness for my family and we in turn did our best for them. There were a few times when I was really able to repay them, sometimes without them knowing.

Socorro would have been proud of her children yesterday. They raised good kids. Smart kids. Hardworking patriotic American kids. My own kids admire them. The are three of them Brian, Melina and Kevin.

So yesterday was Melina”s wedding day. It was at St. Mary’s Catholic Church in Whittier. It was a traditional Catholic wedding. It was an emotional experience for everyone, friends and family. I’m not exaggerating when I say Socorro’s spirit was in that church. Now I am no sissy but I had a few tears in my eyes. Ricardo walked his daughter down the aisle and you could see the emotion coming from them. I wouldn’t have missed this wedding for all the money in the world.

Later, at the reception, Ricardo and I were reminiscing about the old days. Remembering when our kids were little and how that backyard was filled with their noise every night until we called them in to do there homework. In the summer we let them stay up late. It was a fenced yard so we checked up on them but we didn’t really worry. Those days, in that home, on that lot, were some of the best days of our lives. We saw the sadness in each other’s eyes as we realized that those days are gone forever. They will never be back. We made a toast to the past, to Socorro and to the future. I’m glad I missed those fights last night.
Beautiful post, Randy.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 15 Sep 2008, 03:45
by bennie
Rick Farris wrote:
Expug wrote:I'll be there Rog.
I dont know about Danny Boy from the Mariachis though Rog.
You dont wanna see me freakin weeping first time we meet do ya?
Besides , Uncle John has a way of showing up every time that song starts.
You guys best watch the Irish jokes around Dan Hanley's father! Dan's old man may be in his eighties, but he's always ready to "kick some arse". My dad is pretty mellow these days, and looks forward seeing Frank Baltazar. My father has clear memories of the Baltazar boys as they were in the sixties. Last week dad asked me, "Is little Tony going to be there?". I said, "No dad, Tony lives in Arizona now, and he isn't little anymore." My father laughed, "Of course not. But that kid could really fight!" I talked to Gwen Adair again today, and she'll be glad to listen to anything Roger has to say. Of course, she wouldn't dare cross Mrs. Esty! You'll like her Rog, she's one of us.

-Rick
Image

Dan Hanley Senior

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 15 Sep 2008, 09:02
by Rick Farris
This is doable.
Im gonna book a room a room at the Marriott.
I'll be there.
I'll fly out Friday and leave early Sunday.
It will be great meeting the guys on the thread.
Count me in and let me know how much I owe for the ticket.
Looking forward to it.


Brian . . . Just read your post closer and don't worry about the cost of the banquet ticket, the tickets for this group are on me. You guys have the expense of getting to the event and that is more than enough, especially in your case. I'm just honored to have us all together for this event. Many of the guys we write about here will be on hand. Now we also have Chuck Johnston, who with John Bardelli, Frank, Roger, Randy, Dan, Ed Hernandez Sr. and myself make my tables the undisputed most boxing knowledgeable group in attendence.

-Rick

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 15 Sep 2008, 10:36
by kikibalt
Great article from a great writer

Farewell to a woman and an era
Al Martinez
LATimes


In the rush of events that keep us pumping through life like chipmunks on a treadmill, one finds it necessary upon occasion to take a moment to acknowledge a person of some importance. It's why I pause today to say goodbye to Alice.

As a waitress for 50 years at an L.A. drinking place called the Redwood, she embodied two eras of newspapering, from hard-drinking reporters, photographers and editors to a cooler, more sober clientele of journalists.

The Red Dog, as columnist Jack Smith used to call it, was just up the street from what was once Times Mirror Square, and it summoned us to eat and drink in the presence of each other at a friendlier, less frantic period in the life of the Los Angeles Times.

And then there was Alice.

Her full name was Alice Broude. Tall and lanky, she was the very epitome of efficiency, sailing through the bar room crowds like a clipper ship at sea, bringing our booze and burgers without stopping to chat, remembering exactly what the regulars drank and never spilling a drop.

I arose early Monday morning, before full light, thinking about Alice, bothered by a feeling of guilt that would not allow me to sleep. I had been promising for years to take her to lunch but, distracted by more pressing needs, I never fulfilled that promise. And now I never can.

Alice died last week.

She was 89 and still full of life and laughter when she was brought down by a massive stroke at the retirement home where she had lived since July, abandoning the small, tidy house in Echo Park she had occupied for 62 years. Her husband died in 1984.

We spoke on the telephone many times and she wouldn't let me off the hook when it came to a promise of lunch.

The promise itself had assumed a life of its own, from good intentions to a joke. Whenever we spoke, each conversation would begin with, "When are we going to lunch?" And she'd laugh.

More recently Alice had concluded that if I wouldn't take her to lunch, by God, she would take me to lunch. I was invited to join her at her retirement home, but it never came about.

Something, always something, kept intruding. But we continued talking about it, determined to make it happen.

I was still thinking about it when a mutual friend and former Times employee, Nancy Tew, e-mailed me to say that Alice had suffered a stroke, and then, the next day, that Alice had died.

It wasn't as though she was a relative or even a very close acquaintance. But she was an essential link in the transition from one era to another that saw a drinking culture slip away; she watched the old breed die.

Every newspaper had a bar back then, frequented by its staff members, cops, lawyers, judges and hangers-on. At the Oakland Tribune it was the Hollow Leg; in San Francisco, Hanno's near the Chronicle, and Jerry and Johnny's by the old Examiner. In L.A., the crowd at the Herald Examiner drank at Corky's and we drank at the Redwood.

I was still belting down a martini or two at lunch when I first came here in 1972, honoring a sort of tradition from my days at the Trib. By the time I became a regular, Alice knew what I drank. All I had to do was walk in the door and she had my martini at the table, waiting like a happy puppy.

A Times reporter told me that he once had an office on the second floor of the Redwood building just above the bar.

When his shift was finished at the end of the day he'd simply pound on the floor, a signal to Alice that he was coming down. She'd have his drink waiting.

I interviewed an old LAPD detective, John St. John, for hours and weeks at a table in the corner for a book I was preparing, which was followed by a television series based on the book called "Jigsaw John." Alice enjoyed the idea that she had kept us in drinks all the time St. John's brief period of notoriety was being born, and was uncharacteristically giggly when I brought in the series star, Jack Warden.

Many words have been written about Alice since her retirement five years ago, including a piece I did for Bon Appetit magazine. She was the ultimate L.A. saloon waitress. But we still never had lunch, and now it's too late.

Her death is the coda that will always remind me of those days before out-of-town ownership, downsizing and buyouts, when Otis Chandler ran the Times and we aspired to greatness, rather than just survival. The Redwood is still there and the newspaper is still there, but neither is the same as it was.

So goodbye, sweet Alice, and goodbye to the era you characterized.

One of these days, when I have a moment off the chipmunk treadmill, I'm going to have a martini at some dark and timeworn bar. I will hold the glass high for a final farewell to a special lady, and I'll remember.

[email protected]

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 15 Sep 2008, 11:21
by kikibalt
Image
Uncle John just call me (collect) and he needs a ticket for the WBHOF, said he is riding
the rails from Chicago, I ask him about a room, where is he staying, he said not to worry,
as his nephew Brian, AKA pug, will have a room and he will share it with him.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 15 Sep 2008, 12:16
by Randyman
An Open Letter to Oscar De La Hoya and Manny Pacquiao

Dear Oscar and Manny,

I know you guys think that boxing fans want to see the two of you guys fight. I’m sure that your advisors have convinced you that this will be the biggest money maker of all time. Maybe they’re right, I don't know. I’m no expert on money making. I’ll tell what I do know about. I know a little about boxing. I know that the real fans, the fans that have made both of you rich beyond your wildest dreams are owed a little something. I’m not talking about a fight like the Steve Forbes fight that was shown on “free” HBO Boxing. Trust me, it wasn’t free.

No, guys, what I’m talking about is giving the fans, the ones that made you rich, the best possible fight they can ask for. A fight they deserve. That would be you Oscar fighting Antonio Margarito and you Manny doing the right thing by fighting Juan Manuel Marquez. Manny, a lot of fans think Marquez beat you in both fights, that you were lucky to get a draw and a split decision as you did. Maybe in your heart you really don’t believe you can beat Marquez. Not being a mind reader I couldn’t say. But it can’t be because you don’t think he deserves it, because if Marquez doesn’t deserve a rematch, then no one in boxing history ever deserved one.

Oscar, believe me when I say I have been one of your biggest supporters. Even when the press and fans started to write or say some unflattering things about you, I was there, showing them why you were still the best man out there. I converted and reconverted a lot of boxing fans into Oscar De La Hoya fans. I didn’t charge you for it either because I believed in what I was saying. Lately though, it’s been difficult to defend your actions. C’mon Oscar, forget about Pacquiao. It’s not that I don’t think you can beat Manny. That's just it! I know you can but it almost seems unfair. No Oscar, the fight for you is Antonio Margarito. Oscar, very few people believe me when I say you can beat Margarito. Maybe you don’t believe it, but you can. It's possible. He is not a machine.

For once Oscar, forget about what Mexican fight fans think about you. You have been fighting profesionally since 1992. It doesn't matter to them who you fight. They are not, in 2008, going to think more, or less of you than they already do. That's a done deal. For once Oscar, think about your Mexican American fans that have supported you. Consider us. Consider the American fans! Mexican fans pay to see you lose Oscar, the rest of us pay to see you win.

There was a time Oscar, when you used to speak about boxing history, your legacy and how you wanted to leave boxing with class. You used to speak with a certain reverence about your own legacy. You don’t speak that way anymore Oscar. Don’t let your reverence and legacy be about the almighty dollar. Let it be about what you did in the ring, the way you fought, the way you ducked no one, the way you won with grace and more importantly, the way you lost. It says a lot about a fighter, Oscar in the way he loses. You always lost with dignity. If you lost to Margarito in fight where you gave your all, who could fault you? Your thirty five years old. Past your prime years but still one of the best, still formidable.

Manny, in your case it really would be an accurate perception of you ducking your hardest, fiercest rival. You are still at your peak, there is no excuse for you. To be honest, I don’t think you can beat Marquez and my guess is, neither do you. Don’t let you legacy be that you won your best fights against aging Mexican greats that were well past their best days. Do the right thing Manny. Fight Marquez! You will never find a worthier opponent.

Randy De La O

http://boxing-ring.blogspot.com

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 15 Sep 2008, 12:48
by Expug
kikibalt wrote:Image
Uncle John just call me (collect) and he needs a ticket for the WBHOF, said he is riding
the rails from Chicago, I ask him about a room, where is he staying, he said not to worry,
as his nephew Brian, AKA pug, will have a room and he will share it with him.
Frank, I told him that the event was sold out and there is no ticket for him.
He said not to worry, the guys out there will let him in any way.He said something about dinner at the Baltazar house.
Corned beef and cabbage.
I called ahead to the hotel and told them to put a keg of guinness in the room.
I figure he will throw back a few pints and then cab it over to your place. :D

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 15 Sep 2008, 13:02
by Rick Farris
kikibalt wrote:Image Uncle John just call me (collect) and he needs a ticket for the WBHOF, said he is riding the rails from Chicago, I ask him about a room, where is he staying, he said not to worry, as his nephew Brian, AKA pug, will have a room and he will share it with him.
Frank, Pug's Uncle John is trying to con you. He demanded the first ticket and I gave it to him right outside the old King Edward Hotel on 5th & Main St. He likely traded it for a bottle. Now there is maybe one seat left, and he ain't going to get it, which means he shows up mad and, well, you know Uncle John. Who know's what to expect? -Rick

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 15 Sep 2008, 13:20
by bennie
Stick Uncle John in a suit and he would still look like Paddy McGinty's Goat. I last went to Ireland in 2002. County Mayo. Stopped and asked for directions a few times and was told I was just "a short mile" away.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 15 Sep 2008, 14:01
by Expug
Rick Farris wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Image Uncle John just call me (collect) and he needs a ticket for the WBHOF, said he is riding the rails from Chicago, I ask him about a room, where is he staying, he said not to worry, as his nephew Brian, AKA pug, will have a room and he will share it with him.
Frank, Pug's Uncle John is trying to con you. He demanded the first ticket and I gave it to him right outside the old King Edward Hotel on 5th & Main St. He likely traded it for a bottle. Now there is maybe one seat left, and he ain't going to get it, which means he shows up mad and, well, you know Uncle John. Who know's what to expect? -Rick
Roger will calm him down.
Uncle John likes Rog.
But, just in case Rog, watch out for Uncle Johns headbutt.
He likes to start out conversations with it at times.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 15 Sep 2008, 14:01
by Randyman
bennie wrote:
Randyman wrote:I missed all the fights last night to attend the wedding of the daughter of an old friend yesterday. The reception lasted well into the night, as I knew it would. I don’t regret it though. It was a great day and a great wedding. My Friend, Ricardo, is from Guatemala, his wife was from either El Paso, Texas or Juarez, Mexico, she was never 100% clear on that, I’m not sure she ever really knew. Or maybe I’m the one that wasn’t clear.

This family is very special to my family. Many years ago when my wife and I were renting, they lived in the house behind us, on the same lot. It’s ironic because for the first year Ricardo and I did not exactly hit it off. Our kids became friends and so did our wives but with Ricardo and I it took a while. In time we all became almost like one big family on that property. In time Ricardo became much more than my friend. He became more like family. All of them did. They were humble beyond belief. Decent, hardworking, good people. The wife, Socorro passed away a couple of years ago. She was in her late forties. It was hard on Ricardo. Their kids are the salt of the Earth. Their kids and ours have remained friends over the years. More like cousins than friends.

Years ago when I was out of work and on disability for a few months, Socorro came up to me and handed me some money. I was puzzled and asked “What’s this?” She said to me. “You are on disability, take this”. Now, you should know, that even while on disability I was making more money than Ricardo and Socorro combined. They were not people of means. They were struggling. Barely making ends meet, if even that. So naturally I couldn’t accept the money, $75.00. I tried to give it back but she wouldn’t take it. Their daughter Melina was with her. She said to me, almost pleading” Randy, you have to take the money, my mother will be hurt, she won’t understand”. So I accepted the money. I have to tell you guys. It was one of the most humbling experience in my life. This woman was an angel. They both did many acts of kindness for my family and we in turn did our best for them. There were a few times when I was really able to repay them, sometimes without them knowing.

Socorro would have been proud of her children yesterday. They raised good kids. Smart kids. Hardworking patriotic American kids. My own kids admire them. The are three of them Brian, Melina and Kevin.

So yesterday was Melina”s wedding day. It was at St. Mary’s Catholic Church in Whittier. It was a traditional Catholic wedding. It was an emotional experience for everyone, friends and family. I’m not exaggerating when I say Socorro’s spirit was in that church. Now I am no sissy but I had a few tears in my eyes. Ricardo walked his daughter down the aisle and you could see the emotion coming from them. I wouldn’t have missed this wedding for all the money in the world.

Later, at the reception, Ricardo and I were reminiscing about the old days. Remembering when our kids were little and how that backyard was filled with their noise every night until we called them in to do there homework. In the summer we let them stay up late. It was a fenced yard so we checked up on them but we didn’t really worry. Those days, in that home, on that lot, were some of the best days of our lives. We saw the sadness in each other’s eyes as we realized that those days are gone forever. They will never be back. We made a toast to the past, to Socorro and to the future. I’m glad I missed those fights last night.
Beautiful post, Randy.
Thanks Bennie, life really does go by fast. I try to savor those moments, like this past weekend and really make most of them. The same way with the World Boxing Hall of Fame that's coming up. I am going to savor every moment.
Randy

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 15 Sep 2008, 14:25
by kikibalt
Expug wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Image
Uncle John just call me (collect) and he needs a ticket for the WBHOF, said he is riding
the rails from Chicago, I ask him about a room, where is he staying, he said not to worry,
as his nephew Brian, AKA pug, will have a room and he will share it with him.
Frank, I told him that the event was sold out and there is no ticket for him.
He said not to worry, the guys out there will let him in any way.He said something about dinner at the Baltazar house.
Corned beef and cabbage.
I called ahead to the hotel and told them to put a keg of guinness in the room.
I figure he will throw back a few pints and then cab it over to your place. :D
Pug,

Your uncle is welcome to my digs anytime, we'll get drunk, he will sing and I will cry, I will cry because of his singing... :)