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Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Posted: 08 May 2021, 14:39
by Terminator666
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑08 May 2021, 13:46
Terminator666 wrote: ↑08 May 2021, 09:51
Crawford Ashley reckons Saunders can win- can’t say he knows fornicate all about boxing
if he says canelo has nothing and only arm chair fans rate canelo then i can say he knows f@ck all about canelo
tbh, if that's what craw thinks, it's not an opinion worth taking seriously at all, whether crawford fought or not. loads of fighters say stupid, uninformed stuff all the time. roy jones was being wheeled out by the guys clutching for straws for bill, but he also loved khan to beat canelo
just check the track record of fighters for predictions, scoring, etc....you'll see there's tons of sh!t they serve up too
Seemed a strange thing to say about Roy Jones too
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Posted: 08 May 2021, 17:01
by jamesmcdonnell
coghaugen11 wrote: ↑08 May 2021, 13:32
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑08 May 2021, 04:52
btw, i dont know if canelo is continually wearing lifts, or if saunders is actually shorter than claimed, but im surprised by how close in height they look. i havent noticed canelo looking shorter compared to his opponents in the ring than he did in press photos, so im inclined to believe it's close to the actual height difference
Saunders certainly looks the naturally bigger man. Taller with bigger frame.
Very little in it.
Canelo probably cut more weight. He will look like a tank come the fight.
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Posted: 08 May 2021, 17:27
by dr_devious
coghaugen11 wrote: ↑08 May 2021, 13:33
Canelo is more ‘built’ though. Blocky.
His neck his twice as thick as Saunders'
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Posted: 08 May 2021, 17:35
by Boxerbeetle
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑08 May 2021, 04:52
btw, i dont know if canelo is continually wearing lifts, or if saunders is actually shorter than claimed, but im surprised by how close in height they look. i havent noticed canelo looking shorter compared to his opponents in the ring than he did in press photos, so im inclined to believe it's close to the actual height difference
Just the angle, or does Canelo have a fair bit of steroid brow going on?
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Posted: 08 May 2021, 17:38
by margaret thatcher
i see what you mean, but he might just have that normally, some guys do have it without peds ---- caveman brow
its noticable here vs rhodes years ago too for example, before he became a tank

Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Posted: 08 May 2021, 17:45
by Nondescript
Hey Marg, I was wondering, how did you score Canelo-Lara at the time?
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Posted: 08 May 2021, 17:47
by Nondescript
Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑08 May 2021, 17:35
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑08 May 2021, 04:52
btw, i dont know if canelo is continually wearing lifts, or if saunders is actually shorter than claimed, but im surprised by how close in height they look. i havent noticed canelo looking shorter compared to his opponents in the ring than he did in press photos, so im inclined to believe it's close to the actual height difference
Just the angle, or does Canelo have a fair bit of steroid brow going on?
I think that's neanderthal DNA rather than a steroid brow. Some people have that ridge that comes out like that. If you look up the Neanderthals, they had that aswell.
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Posted: 08 May 2021, 17:48
by margaret thatcher
Nondescript wrote: ↑08 May 2021, 17:45
Hey Marg, I was wondering, how did you score Canelo-Lara at the time?
i honestly cant remember, it was that type of fight
i do think prime lara was better than bill though, especially 168 bill
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Posted: 08 May 2021, 17:50
by Nondescript
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑08 May 2021, 17:48
Nondescript wrote: ↑08 May 2021, 17:45
Hey Marg, I was wondering, how did you score Canelo-Lara at the time?
i honestly cant remember, it was that type of fight
i do think prime lara was better than bill though, especially 168 bill
I had it 7-5 Canelo I think, but there was a lot of rounds which you could have scored for either guy.
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Posted: 08 May 2021, 17:50
by margaret thatcher
and i do remember having him beating trout comfortably, like 116-111, always thought ppl were generous to trout in thinking that was some super close one
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Posted: 08 May 2021, 18:04
by Boxerbeetle
Nondescript wrote: ↑08 May 2021, 17:47
Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑08 May 2021, 17:35
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑08 May 2021, 04:52
btw, i dont know if canelo is continually wearing lifts, or if saunders is actually shorter than claimed, but im surprised by how close in height they look. i havent noticed canelo looking shorter compared to his opponents in the ring than he did in press photos, so im inclined to believe it's close to the actual height difference
Just the angle, or does Canelo have a fair bit of steroid brow going on?
I think that's neanderthal DNA rather than a steroid brow. Some people have that ridge that comes out like that. If you look up the Neanderthals, they had that aswell.
Yeah I know some people have it naturally, just always get suspicious when I see it on a sportsman, particularly someone like Canelo who I’m 99% sure is juicing.
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Posted: 08 May 2021, 18:23
by polecateddy
Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑08 May 2021, 18:04
Nondescript wrote: ↑08 May 2021, 17:47
Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑08 May 2021, 17:35
Just the angle, or does Canelo have a fair bit of steroid brow going on?
I think that's neanderthal DNA rather than a steroid brow. Some people have that ridge that comes out like that. If you look up the Neanderthals, they had that aswell.
Yeah I know some people have it naturally, just always get suspicious when I see it on a sportsman, particularly someone like Canelo who I’m 99% sure is juicing.
It's usually quite obvious on bodybuilders who do regularly take stacks of testosterone and steroids, that their neck and traps become over-developed. The traps eating the neck look! It's because of where the androgen receptors are located, the muscle tissue around the area gets a lot of stimulation. Obviously boxers don't juice in the same extreme or consistent way, but probably that over-development in Canelo may well be that over-stimulation of the androgen receptors over time.
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Posted: 08 May 2021, 18:28
by coghaugen11
When Saunders was juicing heavily last summer, his traps blew right up.
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Posted: 08 May 2021, 18:30
by margaret thatcher
lol you guys made me curious, so i did a brow photo review on canelo, he's had it even as a teenager, so i think he's just naturally caveman browed, though im sure other parts of him have been blown up by those tasty mexican dinners
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Posted: 08 May 2021, 18:34
by polecateddy
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑08 May 2021, 18:30
lol you guys made me curious, so i did a brow photo review on canelo, he's had it even as a teenager, so i think he's just naturally caveman browed, though im sure other parts of him have been blown up by those tasty mexican dinners
With Canelo's funds and the number of tame steroid expert doctor's in America, it's a given he'll be on an incredibly well designed program of bio-identical hormones and other goodies.
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Posted: 08 May 2021, 18:39
by Fightnight Scores
Gonna get a few hours' sleep! Back on later to join in the excitement!

Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Posted: 08 May 2021, 18:40
by Gnome
I put money on a draw. No doubt I'll lose (I usually do) but if BJS does have a great night, he won't get a decision.
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Posted: 08 May 2021, 18:45
by polecateddy
Gnome wrote: ↑08 May 2021, 18:40
I put money on a draw. No doubt I'll lose (I usually do) but if BJS does have a great night, he won't get a decision.
Young Sturm couldn't even get a decision against a fading De La Hoya.
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Posted: 08 May 2021, 18:49
by skanksta
Gnome wrote: ↑08 May 2021, 18:40
I put money on a draw. No doubt I'll lose (I usually do) but if BJS does have a great night, he won't get a decision.
You're basically hoping for a "close but clear" or "fairly comfortable" win for BJS aren't you.
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Posted: 09 May 2021, 00:04
by Boxingcutsman
Fuking told everyone he would quit, dirty scum bag bully got no heart, read earlier in this thread and I said he would box and move for 6 rounds, all the time canelo would touch him, tightening the screw and the minute he knew he was gonna get knocked out he would quit, what a show he is, absolute disgrace, knew he wouldn’t go out on his shield, no balls, will dine out now on some excuse and I was doing well blah blah blah I didn’t want it stopped blah blah blah, QUITTER
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Posted: 09 May 2021, 00:18
by bigjack
Boxingcutsman wrote: ↑09 May 2021, 00:04
Fuking told everyone he would quit, dirty scum bag bully got no heart, read earlier in this thread and I said he would box and move for 6 rounds, all the time canelo would touch him, tightening the screw and the minute he knew he was gonna get knocked out he would quit, what a show he is, absolute disgrace, knew he wouldn’t go out on his shield, no balls, will dine out now on some excuse and I was doing well blah blah blah I didn’t want it stopped blah blah blah, QUITTER
I said all along he would quit with an injury once he realised what was coming his way,would love to see Saunders become a better human being after that but doubt it

Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Posted: 09 May 2021, 00:23
by Wee Tommy
I’m glad the scorecards reflected the action rather than some of the commentary.
BJS did better than I expected but was going to get KOd and beaten up. I won £60 off a fiver bet for this which is my first bet and also win since I think Calzaghe Kessler.
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Posted: 09 May 2021, 00:29
by TheLeprechaun
Boxingcutsman wrote: ↑07 May 2021, 20:07
Let’s hope Saunders doesn’t show himself to be the usual shi tbag we all know he is and after pot shotting and moving for 5/6 rounds he feels the pressure building off Canelo patiently just touching him and slowly tightening the screw with the pressure & feet on him over them early rounds and pulls out with a injury
![[icon_wink.gif] ;-)](./images/smilies/icon_e_wink.gif)
knowing he’s about to get starched and then waffles on about how he was boxing the ears of canelo and If it wasn’t for the injury he would of beat him

let’s hope he lives up to his talk and shows he is a fighting man and has a go and goes out on his shield & takes his hiding like a man, anyone who thinks Saunders stands any chance or it’s a tough fight for canelo knows fuk all about boxing IMO, but hey what do I know, I could be wrong, after all canelo has never been in with anyone like Saunders with the ability, heart, skill, power, pedigree

he’s smart is canelo only facing them the B class fighters like : Mayweather, Cotto, Golovkin, Jacobs, Kirkland, Trout, Lara, Moseley, Vasquez,

I could go on all day
boxingcutman has been around the game for a long time and knew this would happen.
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Posted: 09 May 2021, 00:30
by Boxingcutsman
bigjack wrote: ↑09 May 2021, 00:18
Boxingcutsman wrote: ↑09 May 2021, 00:04
Fuking told everyone he would quit, dirty scum bag bully got no heart, read earlier in this thread and I said he would box and move for 6 rounds, all the time canelo would touch him, tightening the screw and the minute he knew he was gonna get knocked out he would quit, what a show he is, absolute disgrace, knew he wouldn’t go out on his shield, no balls, will dine out now on some excuse and I was doing well blah blah blah I didn’t want it stopped blah blah blah, QUITTER
I said all along he would quit with an injury once he realised what was coming his way,would love to see Saunders become a better human being after that but doubt it
He’s a disgrace mate, I knew he would do that exact thing, he was feeling the pressure and the net was closing, great excuse the eye is, I thought he would use his hand as a excuse but that was better, if his orbital is fractured then why not fight on, it happened at the end of the round almost, why not do what other fighter have done with that injury and carried on until they can’t no more, and other appalling injuries fighters have and do carry on with, but no, bully Saunders the sh itbag knew he was gonna get starched and humiliated so quit whilst he was ahead in his opinion, and anyone who could or did score more than 2 rounds maximum to him in that fight again like I said earlier in thread knows fuk all about boxing same as the ones who thought it would be a tough fight and he stood a chance, he never stood a chance and he was never not gonna quit, it’s in him, everything he does and says and all his scummyness you can tell he’s got no heart, very insecure and weak and that’s why he does and says what he does, now add quitter to the long list of appalling behaviour and attitude and personality he has to his credit
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Posted: 09 May 2021, 00:33
by Boxingcutsman
TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑09 May 2021, 00:29
Boxingcutsman wrote: ↑07 May 2021, 20:07
Let’s hope Saunders doesn’t show himself to be the usual shi tbag we all know he is and after pot shotting and moving for 5/6 rounds he feels the pressure building off Canelo patiently just touching him and slowly tightening the screw with the pressure & feet on him over them early rounds and pulls out with a injury
![[icon_wink.gif] ;-)](./images/smilies/icon_e_wink.gif)
knowing he’s about to get starched and then waffles on about how he was boxing the ears of canelo and If it wasn’t for the injury he would of beat him

let’s hope he lives up to his talk and shows he is a fighting man and has a go and goes out on his shield & takes his hiding like a man, anyone who thinks Saunders stands any chance or it’s a tough fight for canelo knows fuk all about boxing IMO, but hey what do I know, I could be wrong, after all canelo has never been in with anyone like Saunders with the ability, heart, skill, power, pedigree

he’s smart is canelo only facing them the B class fighters like : Mayweather, Cotto, Golovkin, Jacobs, Kirkland, Trout, Lara, Moseley, Vasquez,

I could go on all day
boxingcutman has been around the game for a long time and knew this would happen.
