Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk | PPV - 18 May 2024

Who wins?

Poll ended at 18 May 2024, 20:15

Fury - Decision
66
27%
Fury - T/KO
36
15%
DRAW
16
7%
Usyk - T/KO
23
10%
Usyk - Decision
100
41%
 
Total votes: 241

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presumably means punching paris fury. wee man usyk may struggle with her size and strength tbh.
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7 days tomorrow

tick tock tick tock
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margaret thatcher wrote: 08 Feb 2023, 16:06 presumably means punching paris fury. wee man usyk may struggle with her size and strength tbh.
Beat me to it. Would it be considered bad form and sexist if Usyk starts calling Paris Fury "Belly"?
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Teddy's Toupee wrote: 08 Feb 2023, 16:10
margaret thatcher wrote: 08 Feb 2023, 16:06 presumably means punching paris fury. wee man usyk may struggle with her size and strength tbh.
Beat me to it. Would it be considered bad form and sexist if Usyk starts calling Paris Fury "Belly"?
Not really - they the same size so all fair I say👍
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Twinkle Toes wrote: 08 Feb 2023, 16:08 7 days tomorrow

tick tock tick tock
If Fury gives Uysk the big swerve ( looking increasingly likely) then it will be job done for Uysk: he will be the honoury undisputed Heavyweight Champion, who came up from Cruiserweight(where he was undisputed), won 3 out of 4 Heavyweight belts and made the holder of the 4th belt lose his nerve. You can't say fairer than that -some legacy for Uysk.
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big lennox wrote: 08 Feb 2023, 18:44
Twinkle Toes wrote: 08 Feb 2023, 16:08 7 days tomorrow

tick tock tick tock
If Fury gives Uysk the big swerve ( looking increasingly likely) then it will be job done for Uysk: he will be the honoury undisputed Heavyweight Champion, who came up from Cruiserweight(where he was undisputed), won 3 out of 4 Heavyweight belts and made the holder of the 4th belt lose his nerve. You can't say fairer than that -some legacy for Uysk.
Nope. Just because the deal falls through for Saudi Arabia does not mean that the deal falls through for Wembley which I think is what is happening here. I don't blame the heavyweight champion of the world for wanting the most amount of money possible for the least amount of travel.

Don't forget that Tyson Fury said that he was going to prove to the British fans after Anthony Joshua lost that they bet on the wrong horse when he lost to the Ukrainian so I think a large part of it is holding the fight in England so that Fury can defeat the Ukrainian in front of everybody.

Besides are we really to get into this discussion where a champion is no longer a champion just because fights don't get made? On that basis Muhammad Ali should have never been considered the champion when he failed to fight Ken Norton for a fourth time after he bombed out Duane Bobick. On that basis Larry Holmes should have never been considered the champion when he decided to fight Marvis Frazier instead of his mandatory. Etc.

At the end of the day the only title that has ever mattered in the history of boxing regardless of weight class has always been the lineal championship and until Tyson Fury loses or he retires nobody can claim to be the lineal champion.

I would say I'm surprised at the amount of people on this forum still being doubters of Tyson Fury but then again most of the people on this boxing website are fickle as hell constantly changing their opinions like I change my socks.
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funny, usyk (da unified champ baby!) is quiet for a while and he's ducking around and playing games, fury goes quiet and homi vomits paragraphs of gooey manlove for him :lol:

6'3 220 paris fury :yay:
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Henry Gypsy Bobbins back in style in defense of his hero. Our wannabe fantasy gypsy will do anything to uphold the honour of his King. Kowtow extreme!
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The Gratest wrote: 08 Feb 2023, 20:09 Henry Gypsy Bobbins back in style in defense of his hero. Our wannabe fantasy gypsy will do anything to uphold the honour of his King. Kowtow extreme!
Jesus Christ Almighty God is the only king I have.

That being said I am so amazed of people taking sides when nothing has been put to paper no signatures or anything. Why just because the Ukrainian puts out videos?
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Kowtow at the feet of the mighty Gypsy King and his incredible 6ft 3" 220lbs wife and beautiful younger brother who turned professional just past the age of 16. Then be truly amazed at people taking sides!

God Bless you all in the name of Jesus Christ the Almighty!
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HomicideHenry wrote: 08 Feb 2023, 20:40
The Gratest wrote: 08 Feb 2023, 20:09 Henry Gypsy Bobbins back in style in defense of his hero. Our wannabe fantasy gypsy will do anything to uphold the honour of his King. Kowtow extreme!
Jesus Christ Almighty God is the only king I have.

That being said I am so amazed of people taking sides when nothing has been put to paper no signatures or anything. Why just because the Ukrainian puts out videos?
Would you say that you ever come across as 'taking sides'?
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Verdi wrote: 08 Feb 2023, 22:21
HomicideHenry wrote: 08 Feb 2023, 20:40
The Gratest wrote: 08 Feb 2023, 20:09 Henry Gypsy Bobbins back in style in defense of his hero. Our wannabe fantasy gypsy will do anything to uphold the honour of his King. Kowtow extreme!
Jesus Christ Almighty God is the only king I have.

That being said I am so amazed of people taking sides when nothing has been put to paper no signatures or anything. Why just because the Ukrainian puts out videos?
Would you say that you ever come across as 'taking sides'?
I've been consistent over the years since Tyson Fury has become a professional. I'm not one of these people who hates on the man and switches sides or pretends to be his fan when he wins a fight and then wants to make disparaging comments about the man when negotiations take a while to make the fights happen.

I've already said in the past that the Ukrainian is the best opponent at least on paper that Tyson Fury has ever faced I just don't believe he's got the capabilities of really winning against a man who has a lot of the same skills and abilities as Usyk but happens to be much bigger than Usyk.

I think a lot of people are under the assumption that Tyson Fury can't move around like he used to. I also think people don't think that Tyson Fury has fast hands and feet because a lot of these big guys look awkward on film. I think if and when the fight happens Tyson Fury is going to be a lot more mobile than he has been because he has to. He's going to be lighter and I think the Ukrainian's own speed is going to be negated because of it.
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The Gratest wrote: 08 Feb 2023, 20:54in the name of Jesus Christ the Almighty!
The Christian's a lot smaller than Galactus; not much bigger than Eric Idle.
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If his name is Jesus........he must have a mean left hook to the body and be from the mean streets of Tijuana :bag:
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HomicideHenry wrote: 08 Feb 2023, 19:25
big lennox wrote: 08 Feb 2023, 18:44
Twinkle Toes wrote: 08 Feb 2023, 16:08 7 days tomorrow

tick tock tick tock
If Fury gives Uysk the big swerve ( looking increasingly likely) then it will be job done for Uysk: he will be the honoury undisputed Heavyweight Champion, who came up from Cruiserweight(where he was undisputed), won 3 out of 4 Heavyweight belts and made the holder of the 4th belt lose his nerve. You can't say fairer than that -some legacy for Uysk.
Nope. Just because the deal falls through for Saudi Arabia does not mean that the deal falls through for Wembley which I think is what is happening here. I don't blame the heavyweight champion of the world for wanting the most amount of money possible for the least amount of travel.

Don't forget that Tyson Fury said that he was going to prove to the British fans after Anthony Joshua lost that they bet on the wrong horse when he lost to the Ukrainian so I think a large part of it is holding the fight in England so that Fury can defeat the Ukrainian in front of everybody.

Besides are we really to get into this discussion where a champion is no longer a champion just because fights don't get made? On that basis Muhammad Ali should have never been considered the champion when he failed to fight Ken Norton for a fourth time after he bombed out Duane Bobick. On that basis Larry Holmes should have never been considered the champion when he decided to fight Marvis Frazier instead of his mandatory. Etc.

At the end of the day the only title that has ever mattered in the history of boxing regardless of weight class has always been the lineal championship and until Tyson Fury loses or he retires nobody can claim to be the lineal champion.

I would say I'm surprised at the amount of people on this forum still being doubters of Tyson Fury but the most of the people on this boxing website are fickle as hell constantly changing their opinions like I change my socks.
Fury isn't the lineal champion. That's a made up concept plus that title went when Lennox Lewis retired.

I admire your blind loyalty and your ability to look past Fury's failed PED test and ability to take on soft challengers. Does it not concern you that he has Dr.Usman in his camp (Connor Benn's doctor)?

What would be your thoughts on Fury taking on a UFC fighter with no boxing experience instead of Uysk?

I think the problem Uysk would have with Fury is Fury's supernatural fitness levels. Other big guys like AJ,Lennox Lewis and the Klitschko's etc all seemed to get fatigued over 12 rounds, but Fury doesn't seem to. It's remarkable.
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big lennox wrote: 09 Feb 2023, 02:52
big lennox wrote: 08 Feb 2023, 18:44 .


I think the problem Uysk would have with Fury is Fury's supernatural fitness levels. Other big guys like AJ,Lennox Lewis and the Klitschko's etc all seemed to get fatigued over 12 rounds, but Fury doesn't seem to. It's remarkable.

I don't see Fury having anything other than very good fitness levels .. as you'd expect from any other sports person.
His size allows him to control the pace and control his exertions; when have we seen Fury put in a big sustained effort?

If Fury signs (which I think he will) to face Usyk. I think Usyk will use his speed to make Fury work more .. if he can get Fury to change his pace just a little bit higher that will be the key. It's a big if of course.
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tonyevs wrote: 09 Feb 2023, 04:16
big lennox wrote: 09 Feb 2023, 02:52
big lennox wrote: 08 Feb 2023, 18:44 .


I think the problem Uysk would have with Fury is Fury's supernatural fitness levels. Other big guys like AJ,Lennox Lewis and the Klitschko's etc all seemed to get fatigued over 12 rounds, but Fury doesn't seem to. It's remarkable.

I don't see Fury having anything other than very good fitness levels .. as you'd expect from any other sports person.
His size allows him to control the pace and control his exertions; when have we seen Fury put in a big sustained effort?

If Fury signs (which I think he will) to face Usyk. I think Usyk will use his speed to make Fury work more .. if he can get Fury to change his pace just a little bit higher that will be the key. It's a big if of course.
Tonyevs, you could be right. I felt that Fury's superior stamina got him through that third fight with Wilder. But, yes, I think the key is for Uysk to try and make Fury throw more punches than ever before. It's a big ask but it's also what makes it such a compelling encounter.
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HomicideHenry wrote: 08 Feb 2023, 20:40
The Gratest wrote: 08 Feb 2023, 20:09 Henry Gypsy Bobbins back in style in defense of his hero. Our wannabe fantasy gypsy will do anything to uphold the honour of his King. Kowtow extreme!
Jesus Christ Almighty God is the only king I have.

That being said I am so amazed of people taking sides when nothing has been put to paper no signatures or anything. Why just because the Ukrainian puts out videos?
Isn't Jesus the son of god? :maybe:
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HomicideHenry wrote: 08 Feb 2023, 19:25
big lennox wrote: 08 Feb 2023, 18:44
Twinkle Toes wrote: 08 Feb 2023, 16:08 7 days tomorrow

tick tock tick tock
If Fury gives Uysk the big swerve ( looking increasingly likely) then it will be job done for Uysk: he will be the honoury undisputed Heavyweight Champion, who came up from Cruiserweight(where he was undisputed), won 3 out of 4 Heavyweight belts and made the holder of the 4th belt lose his nerve. You can't say fairer than that -some legacy for Uysk.
Nope. Just because the deal falls through for Saudi Arabia does not mean that the deal falls through for Wembley which I think is what is happening here. I don't blame the heavyweight champion of the world for wanting the most amount of money possible for the least amount of travel.

Don't forget that Tyson Fury said that he was going to prove to the British fans after Anthony Joshua lost that they bet on the wrong horse when he lost to the Ukrainian so I think a large part of it is holding the fight in England so that Fury can defeat the Ukrainian in front of everybody.

Besides are we really to get into this discussion where a champion is no longer a champion just because fights don't get made? On that basis Muhammad Ali should have never been considered the champion when he failed to fight Ken Norton for a fourth time after he bombed out Duane Bobick. On that basis Larry Holmes should have never been considered the champion when he decided to fight Marvis Frazier instead of his mandatory. Etc.

At the end of the day the only title that has ever mattered in the history of boxing regardless of weight class has always been the lineal championship and until Tyson Fury loses or he retires nobody can claim to be the lineal champion.

I would say I'm surprised at the amount of people on this forum still being doubters of Tyson Fury but then again most of the people on this boxing website are fickle as hell constantly changing their opinions like I change my socks.
He lost the 'lineal' when he retired/ballooned up in weight/served a drugs ban/necked lots of coke.
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keithmoonhangover wrote: 09 Feb 2023, 05:07
HomicideHenry wrote: 08 Feb 2023, 20:40
The Gratest wrote: 08 Feb 2023, 20:09 Henry Gypsy Bobbins back in style in defense of his hero. Our wannabe fantasy gypsy will do anything to uphold the honour of his King. Kowtow extreme!
Jesus Christ Almighty God is the only king I have.

That being said I am so amazed of people taking sides when nothing has been put to paper no signatures or anything. Why just because the Ukrainian puts out videos?
Isn't Jesus the son of god? :maybe:
I thought Mary had a sly roll in the hay with the Holy Ghost? Some serious questions for the bearded one to answer when his inheritance comes due
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Religion was important to you guys when it gave Usyk a reason to not fight?
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Well if it resulted in him going in to such an important fight not at his full strength against a guy a lot bigger than him then of course it's important. It would be a matter of safety rather than religion.
You'd have preferred if he was understrength and weak?
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mickey1975 wrote: 09 Feb 2023, 09:08 Religion was important to you guys when it gave Usyk a reason to not fight?
Don't involve me in that, I didn't post about it once.
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big lennox wrote: 09 Feb 2023, 04:59
tonyevs wrote: 09 Feb 2023, 04:16
big lennox wrote: 09 Feb 2023, 02:52


I don't see Fury having anything other than very good fitness levels .. as you'd expect from any other sports person.
His size allows him to control the pace and control his exertions; when have we seen Fury put in a big sustained effort?

If Fury signs (which I think he will) to face Usyk. I think Usyk will use his speed to make Fury work more .. if he can get Fury to change his pace just a little bit higher that will be the key. It's a big if of course.
Tonyevs, you could be right. I felt that Fury's superior stamina got him through that third fight with Wilder. But, yes, I think the key is for Uysk to try and make Fury throw more punches than ever before. It's a big ask but it's also what makes it such a compelling encounter.
I agree - Furys superior stamina got him through the 3rd Wilder fight. It was much superior to Wilder`s who as early as the 3rd round was looking sorry for himself .. and I think that demonstrates what fighting outside of your comfort zone does. Wilder`s style is those explosive bursts of punches - with each one he is missing a breath - and soon those muscles get tired.

From what has been shown of Fury training its all one plodding pace; others have commented on how slow his runs area and he`s never out of breath.
I`d expect Usyk to have far superior fitness than Fury, and he will need every bit of it if .. and also a referee to stop Fury just grabbing and laying on to slow the pace to his level. Usyk has the footwork to turn Fury inside out but he will also have to make Fury work more because as we know, Fury can do 12 rnds at his pace very easily.
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The Gratest wrote: 09 Feb 2023, 09:20 Well if it resulted in him going in to such an important fight not at his full strength against a guy a lot bigger than him then of course it's important. It would be a matter of safety rather than religion.
You'd have preferred if he was understrength and weak?
No, I’d prefer it if you left Henry’s religion out of it.
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