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IT wrote:

Boxerbeetle wrote:

IT wrote: Fury will be a lot more harder to land on though. On the flipside though, Fury isnt really a puncher and Joshua might be able to walk through his punches.

Exactly my point. On the other hand, Wilder should fancy his chances of one-punch ko; Joshua has proved to have a decent chin but is still very vulnerable..

Yeah. For me, its either Fury outboxes Joshua over 12 or Joshua walks through Fury's arsenal.

Absolutely. The current crop of heavyweights all have very distinct strengths/weaknesses - it's just like a scaled-up version of top trumps

Horse wrote:

TheRiverCityHippy wrote:Wlad should call it a day, he's in his forties now and let's face it Hemingway would struggle to write a better swansong for a proud old champ than that. What better way to say goodbye to a sport that you have graced for 2 decades?

By winning the world title back.

Fighting in your 40's is not ideal, especially if value those little luxuries in life like being able to construct a coherent sentence in your 50's. The man has got nothing to prove, he walked into that stadium tonight to the sound of boo's and walked out to the sound of cheers, given he was fighting in Joshua's backyard that pretty much says it all.
Maybe I grew up watching too many old westerns and maybe i''m an old sentimentalist at heart but Wlad got his 'Shane' ending tonight, I say let him ride off into the sunset like the champ he is and let's not spoil the end of the movie with a crappy sequel.

TheDarkDestroyer wrote:

handsofstone wrote:

TheDarkDestroyer wrote:Anyone else think Joshua decided to go down? He seemed to think about it and just drop himself?

Delayed reaction maybe but it seemed like he chose to to me.

Thought it looked delayed to me

Yeah probably more likely. I'll have to see it again.

Me too ive seen it a few times now but haven't watched it since you mentioned it

IT wrote:Yeah. For me, its either Fury outboxes Joshua over 12 or Joshua walks through Fury's arsenal.

I just can't imagine Joshua being intimidated enough to not walk through. Because whereas Klitschko's a fishing style of boxer with great skills who bet the farm on outpointing Fury, Joshua knows that he wouldn't be able to outbox Fury for the win. It might go into the later rounds, but eventually he'd have to throw caution to the wind and go for it, and I can't see Fury coping with that.

TheRiverCityHippy wrote:

Horse wrote:

TheRiverCityHippy wrote:Wlad should call it a day, he's in his forties now and let's face it Hemingway would struggle to write a better swansong for a proud old champ than that. What better way to say goodbye to a sport that you have graced for 2 decades?

By winning the world title back.

Fighting in your 40's is not ideal, especially if value those little luxuries in life like being able to construct a coherent sentence in your 50's. The man has got nothing to prove, he walked into that stadium tonight to the sound of boo's and walked out to the sound of cheers, given he was fighting in Joshua's backyard that pretty much says it all.
Maybe I grew up watching too many old westerns and maybe i''m an old sentimentalist at heart but Wlad got his 'Shane' ending tonight, I say let him ride off into the sunset like the champ he is and let's not spoil the end of the movie with a crappy sequel.

Agree with that. He's changed a lot of fans opinion of him, he's made a fortune and he's getting out with his senses. Why carry on?

TheRiverCityHippy wrote:

Horse wrote:

TheRiverCityHippy wrote:Wlad should call it a day, he's in his forties now and let's face it Hemingway would struggle to write a better swansong for a proud old champ than that. What better way to say goodbye to a sport that you have graced for 2 decades?

By winning the world title back.

Fighting in your 40's is not ideal, especially if value those little luxuries in life like being able to construct a coherent sentence in your 50's. The man has got nothing to prove, he walked into that stadium tonight to the sound of boo's and walked out to the sound of cheers, given he was fighting in Joshua's backyard that pretty much says it all.
Maybe I grew up watching too many old westerns and maybe i''m an old sentimentalist at heart but Wlad got his 'Shane' ending tonight, I say let him ride off into the sunset like the champ he is and let's not spoil the end of the movie with a crappy sequel.

Great post

TheRiverCityHippy wrote:

Horse wrote:

TheRiverCityHippy wrote:Wlad should call it a day, he's in his forties now and let's face it Hemingway would struggle to write a better swansong for a proud old champ than that. What better way to say goodbye to a sport that you have graced for 2 decades?

By winning the world title back.

Fighting in your 40's is not ideal, especially if value those little luxuries in life like being able to construct a coherent sentence in your 50's. The man has got nothing to prove, he walked into that stadium tonight to the sound of boo's and walked out to the sound of cheers, given he was fighting in Joshua's backyard that pretty much says it all.
Maybe I grew up watching too many old westerns and maybe i''m an old sentimentalist at heart but Wlad got his 'Shane' ending tonight, I say let him ride off into the sunset like the champ he is and let's not spoil the end of the movie with a crappy sequel.

Great post

TheRiverCityHippy wrote:

Horse wrote:

TheRiverCityHippy wrote:Wlad should call it a day, he's in his forties now and let's face it Hemingway would struggle to write a better swansong for a proud old champ than that. What better way to say goodbye to a sport that you have graced for 2 decades?

By winning the world title back.

Fighting in your 40's is not ideal, especially if value those little luxuries in life like being able to construct a coherent sentence in your 50's. The man has got nothing to prove, he walked into that stadium tonight to the sound of boo's and walked out to the sound of cheers, given he was fighting in Joshua's backyard that pretty much says it all.
Maybe I grew up watching too many old westerns and maybe i''m an old sentimentalist at heart but Wlad got his 'Shane' ending tonight, I say let him ride off into the sunset like the champ he is and let's not spoil the end of the movie with a crappy sequel.

. If you're a fan of Westerns, you should take a look at how the Undertaker chose to retire at the most recent Wrestlemania (don't let the wrestling aspect put you off).. Shame it couldn't be arranged for Wlad to retire in a similar way.

Horse wrote:

rossij8 wrote:Wilder is the most over rated fighter in the world

Wilder is probably underrated at this point.

People say he is rubbish left, right and centre.

He hasn't stepped up Horse. he is WBC Champ and not really fought anyone

Fury would school him

This reminded me a little of Moorer/Cooper, probably the best HW title fight in 20 years, since Holyfield/Tyson 1 maybe

rossij8 wrote:He hasn't stepped up Horse. he is WBC Champ and not really fought anyone

Fury would school him

I don't really know how good he is, but hardly anyone seems to rate him nowadays, so I don't think that he can be considered overrated.

Horse wrote:

rossij8 wrote:He hasn't stepped up Horse. he is WBC Champ and not really fought anyone

Fury would school him

I don't really know how good he is, but hardly anyone seems to rate him nowadays, so I don't think that he can be considered overrated.

You can only rate someone if they step up, you didn't rate Joshua before tonight - he stepped up and although showed weaknesses came through

Joshua would smash Wilder to pieces, he won't step up and will fight Bellew instead

I hate the BS surrounding Joshua and was desperate to see him get smashed tonight.

What I didn't want was him to blast an old shot Wlad in 2 rounds and not get tested

It wasn't a poor Wlad tonight. He was better than the Wlad Fury faced IMO.

Joshua answered questions tonight and deserves massive respect. Of course we can still be critical but he shown he had a lot of balls and quality tonight.

rossij8 wrote:You can only rate someone if they step up, you didn't rate Joshua before tonight - he stepped up and although showed weaknesses came through

Joshua would smash Wilder to pieces, he won't step up and will fight Bellew instead

But, people don't rate Wilder, so he isn't overrated.

Naandrew wrote:I hate the BS surrounding Joshua and was desperate to see him get smashed tonight.

What I didn't want was him to blast an old shot Wlad in 2 rounds and not get tested

It wasn't a poor Wlad tonight. He was better than the Wlad Fury faced IMO.

Joshua answered questions tonight and deserves massive respect. Of course we can still be critical but he shown he had a lot of balls and quality tonight.

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Horse wrote:

rossij8 wrote:You can only rate someone if they step up, you didn't rate Joshua before tonight - he stepped up and although showed weaknesses came through

Joshua would smash Wilder to pieces, he won't step up and will fight Bellew instead

But, people don't rate Wilder, so he isn't overrated.

I agree with this, seems noone thinks Wilder is particularly good so he can't be overrated.

Horse wrote:

rossij8 wrote:You can only rate someone if they step up, you didn't rate Joshua before tonight - he stepped up and although showed weaknesses came through

Joshua would smash Wilder to pieces, he won't step up and will fight Bellew instead

But, people don't rate Wilder, so he isn't overrated.

I agree

Horse wrote:

rossij8 wrote:You can only rate someone if they step up, you didn't rate Joshua before tonight - he stepped up and although showed weaknesses came through

Joshua would smash Wilder to pieces, he won't step up and will fight Bellew instead

But, people don't rate Wilder, so he isn't overrated.

Good point.

crusader wrote:

Horse wrote:

rossij8 wrote:You can only rate someone if they step up, you didn't rate Joshua before tonight - he stepped up and although showed weaknesses came through

Joshua would smash Wilder to pieces, he won't step up and will fight Bellew instead

But, people don't rate Wilder, so he isn't overrated.

I agree

He is HW WBC Champ ffs - fight someone

TheRiverCityHippy wrote:

Horse wrote:

TheRiverCityHippy wrote:Wlad should call it a day, he's in his forties now and let's face it Hemingway would struggle to write a better swansong for a proud old champ than that. What better way to say goodbye to a sport that you have graced for 2 decades?

By winning the world title back.

Fighting in your 40's is not ideal, especially if value those little luxuries in life like being able to construct a coherent sentence in your 50's. The man has got nothing to prove, he walked into that stadium tonight to the sound of boo's and walked out to the sound of cheers, given he was fighting in Joshua's backyard that pretty much says it all.
Maybe I grew up watching too many old westerns and maybe i''m an old sentimentalist at heart but Wlad got his 'Shane' ending tonight, I say let him ride off into the sunset like the champ he is and let's not spoil the end of the movie with a crappy sequel.

Great post

What a wonderful fight that was, heavyweight boxing as good as I've seen in many years, by the end I really didn't care who won it was such a great contest between two gentlemen, a real throwback. And if Wlad does ride off into the sunset I hope that its the likes of Parker, Wilder, Fury etc who get to challenge AJ instead of getting sidetracked by that clown Bellew or even worse, Haye. Still a long way off for Tyson Fury atm however, sadly

TheRiverCityHippy wrote:

Horse wrote:

TheRiverCityHippy wrote:Wlad should call it a day, he's in his forties now and let's face it Hemingway would struggle to write a better swansong for a proud old champ than that. What better way to say goodbye to a sport that you have graced for 2 decades?

By winning the world title back.

Fighting in your 40's is not ideal, especially if value those little luxuries in life like being able to construct a coherent sentence in your 50's. The man has got nothing to prove, he walked into that stadium tonight to the sound of boo's and walked out to the sound of cheers, given he was fighting in Joshua's backyard that pretty much says it all.
Maybe I grew up watching too many old westerns and maybe i''m an old sentimentalist at heart but Wlad got his 'Shane' ending tonight, I say let him ride off into the sunset like the champ he is and let's not spoil the end of the movie with a crappy sequel.

Part of me doesn't want him to fight again--certainly not against a beast like AJ--but the other part feels that he could still cherry-pick and KO Parker for a belt, and that going out on a win such as that would be a better way

Horse wrote:

rossij8 wrote:Can't call Fury v Joshua but Josh Favourite now-I can 't see it happening soon

Bellew v Wilder though - Wilder knows Joshua will flatten him

Joshua hardly looked unbeatable.

I don't think that Wilder would have lost too much confidence after tonight's fight.

Better see AJ high on your pp4 list now horsey

crusader wrote:

TheRiverCityHippy wrote:

Horse wrote:By winning the world title back.

Fighting in your 40's is not ideal, especially if value those little luxuries in life like being able to construct a coherent sentence in your 50's. The man has got nothing to prove, he walked into that stadium tonight to the sound of boo's and walked out to the sound of cheers, given he was fighting in Joshua's backyard that pretty much says it all.
Maybe I grew up watching too many old westerns and maybe i''m an old sentimentalist at heart but Wlad got his 'Shane' ending tonight, I say let him ride off into the sunset like the champ he is and let's not spoil the end of the movie with a crappy sequel.

Part of me doesn't want him to fight again--certainly not against a beast like AJ--but the other part feels that he could still cherry-pick and KO Parker for a belt, and that going out on a win such as that would be a better way

I get that completely but its a lineal thing too and Wlad lost his linear title to Fury, he couldn't put that right due to Fury going off the rails and will probably never get the chance to avenge that loss, unfortunately. He has now lost to the new kid on the block in AJ so maybe its just the right time to retire. It would be really nice to see the old lion retire on a title win but I think he knows it wouldn't really negate those two defeats, it would be a paper title and Wlad is much bigger than that in my opinion. The king is dead, long live the king . . . .

Nightmare Roy wrote:

Horse wrote:

rossij8 wrote:Can't call Fury v Joshua but Josh Favourite now-I can 't see it happening soon

Bellew v Wilder though - Wilder knows Joshua will flatten him

Joshua hardly looked unbeatable.

I don't think that Wilder would have lost too much confidence after tonight's fight.

Better see AJ high on your pp4 list now horsey

he will have to go up a couple of places, at least