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Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 02 Oct 2008, 10:00
by Expug
kikibalt wrote:Expug wrote:Guys, I was watching an mma reality show called The Ultimate Fighter last night.
Its on The Spike network.
MMA fighters living in a house,competing for a ufc contract by fighting each other .
Anyway, the boxing coach on the show is Al Stankie.Paul Gonzales former trainer.
Was he sober?
Seemed like it.
Stankie is still using that line of his, "yesterday is a cancelled check".
I heard him use that somewhere a long time ago in an interview.
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 02 Oct 2008, 10:54
by raylawpc
The girl to Jeff's right is Miss Burbank of 1948, Mary Frances Reynolds . . . better known as Debbie Reynolds.
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 02 Oct 2008, 11:01
by bennie
raylawpc wrote:
The girl to Jeff's right is Miss Burbank of 1948, Mary Frances Reynolds . . . better known as Debbie Reynolds.
Jeff looks like he wants to be anywhere but in that chair, in that costume, with those dames.
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 02 Oct 2008, 11:03
by bennie
kikibalt wrote:bennie wrote:It's freezing here in England, cold winds, heavy showers - a real taste of winter.
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Bennie, it was 104 here a couple days ago, you should come to Sunny California where it never Rains..... 8)
It NEVER rains. Seriously?
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 02 Oct 2008, 11:04
by kikibalt
bennie wrote:kikibalt wrote:bennie wrote:It's freezing here in England, cold winds, heavy showers - a real taste of winter.
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Bennie, it was 104 here a couple days ago, you should come to Sunny California where it never Rains..... 8)
It NEVER rains. Seriously?
Maybe two weeks out of the year....
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DD
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 02 Oct 2008, 11:18
by bennie
We have about two weeks of sun and 50 weeks of rain. The weather in England is a favourite topic of conversation because it is so eventful. Seriously, in one day here, you can get sunshine, fog, rain, gales, snow - everything.
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 02 Oct 2008, 11:27
by bennie
kikibalt wrote:
Diaz basically got belted by the talented Campbell in a good learning experience. The brash Joan Guzman then 'bottled out' of a fight with Campbell, and Diaz could get a rematch soon.
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 02 Oct 2008, 11:39
by bennie
kikibalt wrote:Photo and caption courtesy of Diego

Diamond Joe's wedding, 1912, Chicago
The Don of Chicago and his new wife. He was 44. My grandmother,16.
How many new wives does he have?

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 02 Oct 2008, 11:41
by bennie
Dongee wrote:Mr. "D";
I answered ;you at length and submitted the answer. It appeared momentarily and then Poof...it disappeared.
Yeah, you have to watch that, Hap. There is nothing more galling. 'Copy' a few times during the long posts.
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 02 Oct 2008, 12:04
by raylawpc
bennie wrote:raylawpc wrote:
The girl to Jeff's right is Miss Burbank of 1948, Mary Frances Reynolds . . . better known as Debbie Reynolds.
Jeff looks like he wants to be anywhere but in that chair, in that costume, with those dames.
I have the 8 x 10, and its much clearer than this scan. You can't see it too much in this photo, but he actually is wearing a kind of bemused grin.
I met the woman who runs the Burbank Historical Society, and she remembered Jeff when she worked at a jewelry store in downtown Burbank. Jeff's dentist had offices above the store, and she would see Jeff when he came by for his dental check-ups. She said he was very friendly, and would always come into the store just to say hello to the owner. He had had his stroke by this time, so he walked with a cane. She remembered that he always wore a big Stetson hat and smoked a cigar.
Jeff loved Burbank, and was a big supporter of the community. he would lend his name to any worthy community cause.
His residence on the southeast corner of Victory Blvd and Buena Vista was the showcase home in Burbank for many years. That photo was taken in front of the large fireplace in the living room of the house.
Jeff really loved young people.
Right after the '29 crash, when lots of families were out of work and unable to support their children, Jeff had an unused bunkhouse on his property and took in young men from displaced families, providing them with food, clothing and shelter - and all out of his own pocket. (And Jeff was not a wealthy man by this time - he had gone through bankruptcy just a few years before.) He ran his boys through calisthenics everyday, gave them chores to do around the place, and used his contacts in the LA area to find them jobs.
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 02 Oct 2008, 12:10
by bennie
raylawpc wrote:bennie wrote:raylawpc wrote:
The girl to Jeff's right is Miss Burbank of 1948, Mary Frances Reynolds . . . better known as Debbie Reynolds.
Jeff looks like he wants to be anywhere but in that chair, in that costume, with those dames.
I have the 8 x 10, and its much clearer than this scan. You can't see it too much in this photo, but he actually is wearing a kind of bemused grin.
I met the woman who runs the Burbank Historical Society, and she remembered Jeff when she worked at a jewelry store in downtown Burbank. Jeff's dentist had offices above the store, and he would see him when he came by for his dental check-ups. She said he was very friendly, and would always come into the store just to say hello to the owner.
Jeff loved Burbank, and was a big supporter of the community. he would lend his name to any worthy community cause.
His residence on the southeast corner of Victory Blvd and Buena Vista was the show home in Burbank for many years. That photo was taken in front of the large fireplace in the living room of the house.
Jeff really loved young people.
Right after the '29 crash, when lots of families were out of work and unable to support their children, Jeff had an unused bunkhouse on his property and took in young men from displaced families, providing them with food, clothing and shelter - and all out of his own pocket. (And Jeff was not a wealthy man by this time - he had gone through bankruptcy just a few years before.) He ran his boys through calisthenics everyday, gave them chores to do around the place, and used his contacts in the LA area to find them jobs.
It takes a special kind of person to LIKE young people. I think we all know from personal experience that it is very difficult to respect generations of people who come AFTER you, even though they are exactly the same as you were at their age (which might have something to do with it, in truth). This lack of respect is what brings down the mobsters, the champions, the figureheads, the number ones... 'The kids' topple them.
Not Jim.
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 02 Oct 2008, 12:43
by kikibalt

Bill Dempsey Young, Carol Steindler, Danny "Little Red" Lopez, Larry Montalvo
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 02 Oct 2008, 12:45
by bennie
Who is Bill Dempsey Young, Frankie? He looks like Michael Buffer after a heavy night.
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 02 Oct 2008, 12:51
by raylawpc
bennie wrote:Who is Bill Dempsey Young, Frankie? He looks like Michael Buffer after a heavy night.
. . . and a few too many trips through the all-you-can-eat buffet line.

(I can say that because I look like I've had too many trips through the same line!!

)
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 02 Oct 2008, 12:54
by bennie
kikibalt wrote:
Joey Olmos presented Mack Kurihara
the "Joe Louis" Humanitarian Medal
Joey looks so frail.
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 02 Oct 2008, 13:01
by kikibalt
bennie wrote:Who is Bill Dempsey Young, Frankie? He looks like Michael Buffer after a heavy night.
He is the son hall of fame referee Dick Young, he is also the VP of the Golden State Boxers Association, he likes to talk alot and be in front of the camera, other then that I don't know to much about him.
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 02 Oct 2008, 13:03
by kikibalt
bennie wrote:kikibalt wrote:
Joey Olmos presented Mack Kurihara
the "Joe Louis" Humanitarian Medal
Joey looks so frail.
He is, after all he is pushing close to 90.
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 02 Oct 2008, 13:06
by bennie
kikibalt wrote:
Bill Dempsey Young, Carol Steindler, Danny "Little Red" Lopez, Larry Montalvo
It is fantastic that Howie Steindler is not forgotten. Whoever took his life, could never take his legacy. The Steindler name 'lives', and here is the proof.
As for Danny Lopez, he was always one of those 'honest' fighters who would say it as it is, when other fighters would make excuses. In 1983 he launched a comeback (I remember feeling sick at the prospect) but then changed his mind. The reason? "The punches hurt," he admitted of his sparring sessions. What a champ.
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 02 Oct 2008, 13:07
by kikibalt

Bill Dempsey Young, Randy Shields & Larry Montalvo
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 02 Oct 2008, 13:08
by bennie
kikibalt wrote:bennie wrote:kikibalt wrote:
Joey Olmos presented Mack Kurihara
the "Joe Louis" Humanitarian Medal
Joey looks so frail.
He is, after all he is pushing close to 90.
Incredible.
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 02 Oct 2008, 13:09
by raylawpc
kikibalt wrote:bennie wrote:Who is Bill Dempsey Young, Frankie? He looks like Michael Buffer after a heavy night.
He is the son hall of fame referee Dick Young, he is also the VP of the Golden State Boxers Association, he likes to talk alot and be in front of the camera, other then that I don't know to much about him.
Explains his middle name. If it were up to me, my son's middle names would be "Ingemar" and "Jeffries," but Linda would never go for it . . .

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 02 Oct 2008, 13:11
by bennie
kikibalt wrote:bennie wrote:Who is Bill Dempsey Young, Frankie? He looks like Michael Buffer after a heavy night.
He is the son hall of fame referee Dick Young, he is also the VP of the Golden State Boxers Association, he likes to talk alot and be in front of the camera, other then that I don't know to much about him.
"He likes to talk a lot and be in front of the camera".
Frankie, you should be a stand-up comedian.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 02 Oct 2008, 13:13
by raylawpc
For Bennie:
Jeff and his "boys:"
With the neighborhood kids:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 02 Oct 2008, 13:15
by bennie
kikibalt wrote:
Bill Dempsey Young, Randy Shields & Larry Montalvo
Randy Shields is someone who could soak it up from anyone at any time. He was tough and clever. Vastly underrated.
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 02 Oct 2008, 13:15
by kikibalt

Ray Ramos, Larry Montalvo, the late Mando Ramos & Bill Dempsey Young