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no 50/50 fight in my book. more like 1/99.

if he catches one clean he doesn't see comin' in fury's in trouble for sure. that's how it is at heavyweight and same goes vice versa.

difference is fury sees everything coming at him.

fury will simply run him over, on the inside wilder can't do shit except hold on for dear life.

close up brutal maul job, plenty dirty but more so from wilder cause all he's gonna do is hit fury in the back of the head.

deoncey will get rag dolled like a rubber training dummy.

adislav123 wrote: ↑09 Oct 2021, 06:12 no 50/50 fight in my book. more like 1/99.

if he catches one clean he doesn't see comin' in fury's in trouble for sure. that's how it is at heavyweight and same goes vice versa.

difference is fury sees everything coming at him.

fury will simply run him over, on the inside wilder can't do shit except hold on for dear life.

close up brutal maul job, plenty dirty but more so from wilder cause all he's gonna do is hit fury in the back of the head.

deoncey will get rag dolled like a rubber training dummy.

Yes, the obliteration is coming for the Big Dosser. Probably he'll last longer, who knows, that was a corner stoppage the first time, while now his new henchman Malik Scott won't throw it, because he isn't allowed to. Anyway, Wilder will be beaten badly.

The body shots Wilder hits Fury with will be the key in this fight. He'll have plenty opportunities. Imagine getting hit to the body with the power Wilder has? The blueprint to beat Fury is attack his soft midsection. He might drop because of it.

It's going to be a brutal beatdown, Fury may never fight again after he gets out of the hospital. He's been distracted, had covid, poor camp, etc. Wilder is locked in. If Fury wanted to intimidate Wilder with his shape, he would have taken his shirt off.

Bandog wrote: ↑09 Oct 2021, 07:18 The body shots Wilder hits Fury with will be the key in this fight. He'll have plenty opportunities. Imagine getting hit to the body with the power Wilder has? The blueprint to beat Fury is attack his soft midsection. He might drop because of it.

It's going to be a brutal beatdown, Fury may never fight again after he gets out of the hospital. He's been distracted, had covid, poor camp, etc. Wilder is locked in. If Fury wanted to intimidate Wilder with his shape, he would have taken his shirt off.

body shots, really? you should have mentioned this earlier


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Stats and Stakes

Tyson Fury

Titles: Lineal World Heavyweight (2015-Present, 6 defenses); TBRB/Ring/WBC (2020-Present; 1st Attempted Defense)
Previous Titles: TBRB/Ring/WBA/IBF/WBO (2015-16)
Age: 33
Height: 6’9
Weight: 277 lbs.
Stance: Orthodox
Hails from: Manchester, Lancashire, United Kingdom
Record: 30-0-1, 21 KO
Record in Major Title Fights: 2-0-1, 1 KO (6-0-1, 3 KO including lineal title fights)
Last Five Opponents: 161-4-2 (.970)

Notable Outcomes, TBRB and/or Ring Rated Foes: Wladimir Klitschko UD12; Deontay Wilder D12, TKO7

Additional Current/Former Titlists Faced: Steve Cunningham KO7

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Deontay Wilder

Age: 35
Title: None
Previous Titles: WBC heavyweight (2015-20, 10 defenses)
Height: 6’7
Weight: 238 lbs.
Stance: Orthodox
Hails from: Tuscaloosa, Alabama
Record: 42-1-1, 41 KO, 1 KOBY
Rankings: #3 (TBRB, Ring, ESPN)
Record in Major Title Fights: 10-1-1, 9 KO, 1 KOBY
Last Five Opponents: 135-2-1 (.981)

Notable Outcomes, TBRB and/or Ring Rated Foes: Bermane Stiverne UD12; Luis Ortiz TKO10, KO7; Tyson Fury D12, TKO by 7

Additional Current/Former Titlists Faced: Sergey Lyakhovich KO1; Bermane Stiverne KO1

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑09 Oct 2021, 07:30

Bandog wrote: ↑09 Oct 2021, 07:18 The body shots Wilder hits Fury with will be the key in this fight. He'll have plenty opportunities. Imagine getting hit to the body with the power Wilder has? The blueprint to beat Fury is attack his soft midsection. He might drop because of it.

It's going to be a brutal beatdown, Fury may never fight again after he gets out of the hospital. He's been distracted, had covid, poor camp, etc. Wilder is locked in. If Fury wanted to intimidate Wilder with his shape, he would have taken his shirt off.

body shots, really? you should have mentioned this earlier


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Haha, yes. Worth repeating. If you were Wilder's trainer, what would you suggest?

Bandog wrote: ↑09 Oct 2021, 08:16 If you were Wilder's trainer, what would you suggest?

To work hard, train in heavy costumes, spar against guys with loaded gloves, drink water with muscle relaxants, to get used to all sorts of sh!t and to start a basketball career.

Bandog wrote: ↑09 Oct 2021, 08:16

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑09 Oct 2021, 07:30

Bandog wrote: ↑09 Oct 2021, 07:18 The body shots Wilder hits Fury with will be the key in this fight. He'll have plenty opportunities. Imagine getting hit to the body with the power Wilder has? The blueprint to beat Fury is attack his soft midsection. He might drop because of it.

It's going to be a brutal beatdown, Fury may never fight again after he gets out of the hospital. He's been distracted, had covid, poor camp, etc. Wilder is locked in. If Fury wanted to intimidate Wilder with his shape, he would have taken his shirt off.

body shots, really? you should have mentioned this earlier


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Haha, yes. Worth repeating. If you were Wilder's trainer, what would you suggest?

Going back 15 years and starting again

And a brain transplant

You guys are bothered by a lying ineloquent boxer and not bothered by a lying ineloquent president.

Lying about loaded gloves isn't great, but it's far better than lying about a stolen election where people got killed.

b-dog is just a gay funny guy havin a jolly good time trollin' da shite outta that crap! he no fool, right?

Bandog wrote: ↑09 Oct 2021, 07:18 The body shots Wilder hits Fury with will be the key in this fight. He'll have plenty opportunities. Imagine getting hit to the body with the power Wilder has? The blueprint to beat Fury is attack his soft midsection. He might drop because of it.

It's going to be a brutal beatdown, Fury may never fight again after he gets out of the hospital. He's been distracted, had covid, poor camp, etc. Wilder is locked in. If Fury wanted to intimidate Wilder with his shape, he would have taken his shirt off.

Wilder throws body punches? A beatdown? When was the last time Wilder won a round that he didn't score a KO in?

I'd like to see Wilder win, but if he wins it will be a perfectly executed right hand to the head. Body punches by Wilder?

A Wilder who goes in and tries to utilize a bunch of thoughtful and careful new strategy will just get beat up worse than a Wilder who does what he's good at. This isn't a video game, they can't just upload new skills into him that he's never had before.

Wilder has a puncher's chance whatever that means. In this case perhaps a 25% chance which is roughly what the odds say which I think is about right this time.

Tony1244 wrote: ↑09 Oct 2021, 09:55 You guys are bothered by a lying ineloquent boxer and not bothered by a lying ineloquent president.

Lying about loaded gloves isn't great, but it's far better than lying about a stolen election where people got killed.

That's boxing section, why should we trash politicians here?

Fury is probably closer to 265-270 than anything else. All the clothes he was wearing plus shoes, plus potential food or waste in the body probably amounts to 9-10 pounds altogether.

I think he shed off more fat and maintained the muscle, so he's going to not only get his punches off faster he's going to hit harder than he did the last time.

Wilder doubling down on unnecessary bulk has got to be one of the dumbest moves I've ever seen, unless he has it in his head that he can't be pushed around as easy if he's heavier; all those flashbacks to Fury having him in clinches.

I think the fight may have the potential of being a bit more interesting than the second fight was but I think the result will still be the same. Fury stoppage win.

Tony1244 wrote: ↑09 Oct 2021, 09:55 You guys are bothered by a lying ineloquent boxer and not bothered by a lying ineloquent president.

Lying about loaded gloves isn't great, but it's far better than lying about a stolen election where people got killed.

you seem really bothered that some people dont like wilder as much as you do my man

trump has nothing to do with this, thats prob why hes not mentioned here

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑09 Oct 2021, 12:27

Tony1244 wrote: ↑09 Oct 2021, 09:55 You guys are bothered by a lying ineloquent boxer and not bothered by a lying ineloquent president.

Lying about loaded gloves isn't great, but it's far better than lying about a stolen election where people got killed.

you seem really bothered that some people dont like wilder as much as you do my man

trump has nothing to do with this, thats prob why hes not mentioned here

I thought he was talking about Biden.

How much belief can a boxer have with a trainer who threw a fight against him??

Bizarre stuff

oogiebe wrote: ↑09 Oct 2021, 12:35

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑09 Oct 2021, 12:27

Tony1244 wrote: ↑09 Oct 2021, 09:55 You guys are bothered by a lying ineloquent boxer and not bothered by a lying ineloquent president.

Lying about loaded gloves isn't great, but it's far better than lying about a stolen election where people got killed.

you seem really bothered that some people dont like wilder as much as you do my man

trump has nothing to do with this, thats prob why hes not mentioned here

I thought he was talking about Biden.

Biden may trump Trump on ineloquence, but on lying, can't hold a candle to him. But Duke is right, back to boxing: Interesting to see how Wilder fights at 238. Perhaps some of that was this is his heavy armor.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑09 Oct 2021, 12:27

Tony1244 wrote: ↑09 Oct 2021, 09:55 You guys are bothered by a lying ineloquent boxer and not bothered by a lying ineloquent president.

Lying about loaded gloves isn't great, but it's far better than lying about a stolen election where people got killed.

you seem really bothered that some people dont like wilder as much as you do my man

trump has nothing to do with this, thats prob why hes not mentioned here

I don't really even like him that much across the board, I'm just amused that he is living rent free in your head. I won't say what person that has been used about. I'll try to keep it analogy-free.

Tony1244 wrote: ↑09 Oct 2021, 12:57

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑09 Oct 2021, 12:27

Tony1244 wrote: ↑09 Oct 2021, 09:55 You guys are bothered by a lying ineloquent boxer and not bothered by a lying ineloquent president.

Lying about loaded gloves isn't great, but it's far better than lying about a stolen election where people got killed.

you seem really bothered that some people dont like wilder as much as you do my man

trump has nothing to do with this, thats prob why hes not mentioned here

I don't really even like him that much across the board, I'm just amused that he is living rent free in your head. I won't say what person that has been used about. I'll try to keep it analogy-free.

youre still going on about his how he talks, obviously struck a nerve, i think that is the what's living rent free my man

i dont really mind him

Tony1244 wrote: ↑09 Oct 2021, 10:18

Bandog wrote: ↑09 Oct 2021, 07:18 The body shots Wilder hits Fury with will be the key in this fight. He'll have plenty opportunities. Imagine getting hit to the body with the power Wilder has? The blueprint to beat Fury is attack his soft midsection. He might drop because of it.

It's going to be a brutal beatdown, Fury may never fight again after he gets out of the hospital. He's been distracted, had covid, poor camp, etc. Wilder is locked in. If Fury wanted to intimidate Wilder with his shape, he would have taken his shirt off.

Wilder throws body punches? A beatdown? When was the last time Wilder won a round that he didn't score a KO in?

I'd like to see Wilder win, but if he wins it will be a perfectly executed right hand to the head. Body punches by Wilder?

99% head hunting hasn't been successful against Fury. Especially inside, when Fury bull rushes him. Interesting article:

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2021/09/de ... don-house/

i think all the body shot stuff from his camp is mostly a rouse to get fury looking downstairs, to leave himself open to the right up top.............they mention it over and over and over and over. seems a bit of an over the top focus and unnecessary giveaway if that's really what they plan

the idea that after hardly throwing a bodyshot his entire career, and hardly doing any inside fighting, wilder is gonna become some mexican body banger, sounds a bit far fetched. if he changes his approach that dramatically i dont think it will work well. he should focus on his strengths

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑09 Oct 2021, 13:05 i think all the body shot stuff from his camp is mostly a rouse to get fury looking downstairs, to leave himself open to the right up top.............they mention it over and over and over and over. seems a bit of an over the top focus and unnecessary giveaway if that's really what they plan

the idea that after hardly throwing a bodyshot his entire career, and hardly doing any inside fighting, wilder is gonna become some mexican body banger, sounds a bit far fetched. if he changes his approach that dramatically i dont think it will work well. he should focus on his strengths

Do think he can miss Furys body? He certainly has a better chance than his head, and will slow him down. McDermott years ago, and more recently Wallin had a lot of success attacking Furys body. What does he have to lose? He'll never beat him without making some kind of adjustment, and this is it imo.