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Posted: **10 Jul 2023, 03:54**

The Gratest wrote: ↑09 Jul 2023, 17:32 Fury never even bothered getting his trainer in for the April 29th date, never bothered getting a training camp set up, never bothered getting any sparring partners set up. He had no desire or will to fight Usyk back in April.

Your wasting your time and effort explaining this - those who refused to believe it before and too entrenched/biased/thick to accept it.

Every time you write it, the Doofus/Dribble/Mick just repeat their own confabulation which perpetuates the episode once more .. this then risks the 'repeat a lie enough times' thing

Posted: **10 Jul 2023, 04:08**

I got Tyson Fury wrong so many people times.

He is without doubt the Number 1 draw in British Boxing and the number 1 heavyweight in the world.

Boxing is full of fighters who take the easy route. The Wilder fights prove Tyson has had it reasonably tough.

But … with being Number 1 comes expectation.

That doesn’t include WWE style fights with Francis Ngannou.

That exhibition move around takes place in October. The Saudi fights are now put back to February… That is a full year and more without a meaningful fight.

It is because of the above leads me to believe Tyson is no longer hungry he has proved so much.

I will say it again I think Fury has had his last fight as a professional fighter.

Posted: **10 Jul 2023, 05:05**

The Gratest wrote: ↑09 Jul 2023, 17:32 Fury never even bothered getting his trainer in for the April 29th date, never bothered getting a training camp set up, never bothered getting any sparring partners set up. He had no desire or will to fight Usyk back in April.

He trains every day. He has said many times he doesn’t need a long “camp”.

Posted: **10 Jul 2023, 05:08**

Redback Rasta wrote: ↑09 Jul 2023, 23:11 So Ngannou is the same guy who Hearn was talking up as opponent for Joshua a while back, yes?

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/a ... c-29583752

Posted: **10 Jul 2023, 05:17**

Spud wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 04:08 I got Tyson Fury wrong so many people times.

He is without doubt the Number 1 draw in British Boxing and the number 1 heavyweight in the world.

Boxing is full of fighters who take the easy route. The Wilder fights prove Tyson has had it reasonably tough.

But …

I agree he is the number 1 UK boxing draw .. as the only UK champion in the 'glamour' weight division that is to be expected.
However it's increasing easy to argue he is the world's number 1 heavyweight champion .. he only holds one of the titles and his resume is very thin, and the other champion is fighting mandatory challenges.

Fury only has Wilder of note on his record .. AJ, or the shadow of the previously decent AJ, may explode the Wilder myth soon .. and highlight the shallow quality Fury has thus far met.

Posted: **10 Jul 2023, 05:25**

BigDoofus wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 05:05
The Gratest wrote: ↑09 Jul 2023, 17:32 Fury never even bothered getting his trainer in for the April 29th date, never bothered getting a training camp set up, never bothered getting any sparring partners set up. He had no desire or will to fight Usyk back in April.
He trains every day. He has said many times he doesn’t need a long “camp”.

More lies Doofy. He didn't even have his trainer lined uo, as confirmed by Sugar Hill

I thought we sorted this sort of thing out yesterday? Ah well.

Posted: **10 Jul 2023, 05:34**

tonyevs wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 05:17
Spud wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 04:08 I got Tyson Fury wrong so many people times.

He is without doubt the Number 1 draw in British Boxing and the number 1 heavyweight in the world.

Boxing is full of fighters who take the easy route. The Wilder fights prove Tyson has had it reasonably tough.

But …
I agree he is the number 1 UK boxing draw .. as the only UK champion in the 'glamour' weight division that is to be expected.
However it's increasing easy to argue he is the world's number 1 heavyweight champion .. he only holds one of the titles and his resume is very thin, and the other champion is fighting mandatory challenges.

Fury only has Wilder of note on his record .. AJ, or the shadow of the previously decent AJ, may explode the Wilder myth soon .. and highlight the shallow quality Fury has thus far met.

It’s getting easier to say Tyson is number one?

Posted: **10 Jul 2023, 05:37**

Redback Rasta wrote: ↑09 Jul 2023, 23:11 So Ngannou is the same guy who Hearn was talking up as opponent for Joshua a while back, yes?

Yeah, but you know in boxing that there's a very big difference between talking up and actually taking the fight. Fury's the prime example of that where he's talked up fights with actual boxers, his 2 main rivals, Usyk and Joshua, only to be proven it was all hot air and bluff.
Now, the WBC heavyweight champion, looks like he's taking part in an exhibition bout with non-boxer Ngannou.
(Joshua doesn't hold a title at the momen, he could go ride in the Grand National if he wanted).

What would you rather see, Fury v Usyk/Joshua, or Fury v Ngannou?
(Or Joshua in the Grand National?)

Posted: **10 Jul 2023, 05:47**

Didn't Fury run out on the AJ deal at the 11th hour to face Wilder for the third time, having assured AJ's team there was nothing to worry about re Wilder's legal action?

Why didn't he just wait until February and box Uysk for more money than he will have got for facing Chisora for a third time in December?

Why didn't he box Joyce instead of Chisora? Joyce said he was up for it.

Why did he turn down the Saudi offer to fight Uysk in favour of boxing him for less money at Wembley instead?

Why didn't Fury have any trainer in camp for the 29th April Uysk fight?

We were told with or without Uysk, Fury would be boxing on the 29th April. Why didn't Fury box on the 29th April?

I'm sure I saw a video with Fury's promoters say that Fury vs Uysk would be an easy fight to make: 50/50 split and they have a very good relationship with Uysk's team etc.

This then shifted to 70/30 and the rest is history.

When you factor in not honouring his rematch obligation to face Wladimir Klitschko again and the swerve of Price early on in his career, it is clear that Fury is a distinguished bottlejob and prone to avoiding tough assignments where he possibly can.

No amount of revisionist history from Big Doofus is going to change that. The Public now sees through him.

Still, he's big on mental health whilst insulting everyone that disagrees with him

Posted: **10 Jul 2023, 06:20**

HomicideHenry wrote: ↑09 Jul 2023, 20:06
stevec@france wrote: ↑09 Jul 2023, 17:37 fury should be stripped of his belt if he wont defend it.
not really very complicated .
They are not going to strip somebody when they are not forcing mandatories. If he completely refused to face a mandatory that's the only circumstance in which you would have your belts stripped.

Usyk never was or has been a mandatory in the WBC.

my point is that to retain the belt a fighter must defend - he isnt and pissing around doing what will be an exhibition on the level of a youtuber is frankly disrespecting the belts and suitable challengers .

Posted: **10 Jul 2023, 07:00**

The Gratest wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 05:25
BigDoofus wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 05:05
The Gratest wrote: ↑09 Jul 2023, 17:32 Fury never even bothered getting his trainer in for the April 29th date, never bothered getting a training camp set up, never bothered getting any sparring partners set up. He had no desire or will to fight Usyk back in April.
He trains every day. He has said many times he doesn’t need a long “camp”.

More lies Doofy. He didn't even have his trainer lined uo, as confirmed by Sugar Hill I thought we sorted this sort of thing out yesterday? Ah well.

By that logic they can’t announce his next fight until Sugar Hill arrives in Morecambe.

Posted: **10 Jul 2023, 07:02**

big lennox wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 05:47 Didn't Fury run out on the AJ deal at the 11th hour to face Wilder for the third time, having assured AJ's team there was nothing to worry about re Wilder's legal action?

Why didn't he just wait until February and box Uysk for more money than he will have got for facing Chisora for a third time in December?

Why didn't he box Joyce instead of Chisora? Joyce said he was up for it.

Why did he turn down the Saudi offer to fight Uysk in favour of boxing him for less money at Wembley instead?

Why didn't Fury have any trainer in camp for the 29th April Uysk fight?

We were told with or without Uysk, Fury would be boxing on the 29th April. Why didn't Fury box on the 29th April?

I'm sure I saw a video with Fury's promoters say that Fury vs Uysk would be an easy fight to make: 50/50 split and they have a very good relationship with Uysk's team etc.

This then shifted to 70/30 and the rest is history.

When you factor in not honouring his rematch obligation to face Wladimir Klitschko again and the swerve of Price early on in his career, it is clear that Fury is a distinguished bottlejob and prone to avoiding tough assignments where he possibly can.

No amount of revisionist history from Big Doofus is going to change that. The Public now sees through him.

Still, he's big on mental health whilst insulting everyone that disagrees with him

Doubting Thomas.

Posted: **10 Jul 2023, 07:03**

stevec@france wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 06:20
HomicideHenry wrote: ↑09 Jul 2023, 20:06
stevec@france wrote: ↑09 Jul 2023, 17:37 fury should be stripped of his belt if he wont defend it.
not really very complicated .
They are not going to strip somebody when they are not forcing mandatories. If he completely refused to face a mandatory that's the only circumstance in which you would have your belts stripped.

Usyk never was or has been a mandatory in the WBC.
my point is that to retain the belt a fighter must defend - he isnt and pissing around doing what will be an exhibition on the level of a youtuber is frankly disrespecting the belts and suitable challengers .

Do you think that the WBC should have forced Usyk and Joshua into the ring?

Posted: **10 Jul 2023, 07:05**

BigDoofus wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 07:00
The Gratest wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 05:25
BigDoofus wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 05:05
He trains every day. He has said many times he doesn’t need a long “camp”.

More lies Doofy. He didn't even have his trainer lined uo, as confirmed by Sugar Hill I thought we sorted this sort of thing out yesterday? Ah well.
By that logic they can’t announce his next fight because Sugar Hill is not in Morecambe.

His next fight isn't against a boxer and doesn't have a date or venue set

do pay attention Doofy.
Imagine being so far up Fury's chute that you believe he was going to go into the defining fight of his career at 6 weeks notice with no training camp and no trainer.

Posted: **10 Jul 2023, 07:06**

BigDoofus wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 07:03
stevec@france wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 06:20
HomicideHenry wrote: ↑09 Jul 2023, 20:06

They are not going to strip somebody when they are not forcing mandatories. If he completely refused to face a mandatory that's the only circumstance in which you would have your belts stripped.

Usyk never was or has been a mandatory in the WBC.
my point is that to retain the belt a fighter must defend - he isnt and pissing around doing what will be an exhibition on the level of a youtuber is frankly disrespecting the belts and suitable challengers .
Do you think that the WBC should have forced Usyk and Joshua into the ring?

They didn't need to. They've fought each other twice. Do pay attention Doofy.

Posted: **10 Jul 2023, 07:10**

The Gratest wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 07:05
BigDoofus wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 07:00
The Gratest wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 05:25

More lies Doofy. He didn't even have his trainer lined uo, as confirmed by Sugar Hill I thought we sorted this sort of thing out yesterday? Ah well.
By that logic they can’t announce his next fight because Sugar Hill is not in Morecambe.
His next fight isn't against a boxer and doesn't have a date or venue set do pay attention Doofy.
Imagine being so far up Fury's chute that you believe he was going to go into the defining fight of his career at 6 weeks notice with no training camp and no trainer.

He has said numerous times he only needs a 6 week camp.
How hard is it for a multi-millionaire to get a trainer?

Posted: **10 Jul 2023, 07:14**

Get ready to justify this PPV tickling contest.

Posted: **10 Jul 2023, 07:15**

BigDoofus wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 07:10
The Gratest wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 07:05
BigDoofus wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 07:00
By that logic they can’t announce his next fight because Sugar Hill is not in Morecambe.
His next fight isn't against a boxer and doesn't have a date or venue set do pay attention Doofy.
Imagine being so far up Fury's chute that you believe he was going to go into the defining fight of his career at 6 weeks notice with no training camp and no trainer.
He has said numerous times he only needs a 6 week camp.
How hard is it for a multi-millionaire to get a trainer?

He's said numerous things that have turned out to be utter shite. Keep eating those shite sandwiches Doofy

Well Anthony Joshua's a multi-millionaire and according to you, he wasn't going to fight Fury because he didn't have a trainer at 10 weeks notice. Glad to see you've now changed your mind on that one

Posted: **10 Jul 2023, 07:36**

mickey1975 wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 05:34
tonyevs wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 05:17
Spud wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 04:08 I got Tyson Fury wrong so many people times.

He is without doubt the Number 1 draw in British Boxing and the number 1 heavyweight in the world.

Boxing is full of fighters who take the easy route. The Wilder fights prove Tyson has had it reasonably tough.

But …
I agree he is the number 1 UK boxing draw .. as the only UK champion in the 'glamour' weight division that is to be expected.
However it's increasing easy to argue he is the world's number 1 heavyweight champion .. he only holds one of the titles and his resume is very thin, and the other champion is fighting mandatory challenges.

Fury only has Wilder of note on his record .. AJ, or the shadow of the previously decent AJ, may explode the Wilder myth soon .. and highlight the shallow quality Fury has thus far met.
It’s getting easier to say Tyson is number one?

Very telling you picked up that typo Mick

Posted: **10 Jul 2023, 07:41**

BigDoofus wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 07:10
The Gratest wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 07:05
BigDoofus wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 07:00
By that logic they can’t announce his next fight because Sugar Hill is not in Morecambe.
His next fight isn't against a boxer and doesn't have a date or venue set do pay attention Doofy.
Imagine being so far up Fury's chute that you believe he was going to go into the defining fight of his career at 6 weeks notice with no training camp and no trainer.
He has said numerous times he only needs a 6 week camp.
How hard is it for a multi-millionaire to get a trainer?

Lame. None of your comments are credible.

I see that Alex Krassyuk has said that the public have turned on Tyson because he is disrespecting them. They pay his wages and he shows them disrespect by his opponent selection.

This.

Posted: **10 Jul 2023, 07:55**

The Gratest wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 07:15
BigDoofus wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 07:10
The Gratest wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 07:05
His next fight isn't against a boxer and doesn't have a date or venue set do pay attention Doofy.
Imagine being so far up Fury's chute that you believe he was going to go into the defining fight of his career at 6 weeks notice with no training camp and no trainer.
He has said numerous times he only needs a 6 week camp.
How hard is it for a multi-millionaire to get a trainer?
He's said numerous things that have turned out to be utter shite. Keep eating those shite sandwiches Doofy
Well Anthony Joshua's a multi-millionaire and according to you, he wasn't going to fight Fury because he didn't have a trainer at 10 weeks notice. Glad to see you've now changed your mind on that one

Joshua always has a 12 week camp usually preceded by an overseas camp "bulking up".

Posted: **10 Jul 2023, 07:58**

big lennox wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 07:41
BigDoofus wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 07:10
The Gratest wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 07:05
His next fight isn't against a boxer and doesn't have a date or venue set do pay attention Doofy.
Imagine being so far up Fury's chute that you believe he was going to go into the defining fight of his career at 6 weeks notice with no training camp and no trainer.
He has said numerous times he only needs a 6 week camp.
How hard is it for a multi-millionaire to get a trainer?
Lame. None of your comments are credible.

I see that Alex Krassyuk has said that the public have turned on Tyson because he is disrespecting them. They pay his wages and he shows them disrespect by his opponent selection.

This.

The same Alex Krassyuk who didn't tell FW that Usyk had quit camp and fled to Poland or the Alex Krassyuk that said on national radio that Fury wasn't to blame for this?

Posted: **10 Jul 2023, 08:12**

BigDoofus wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 07:55
The Gratest wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 07:15
BigDoofus wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 07:10

He has said numerous times he only needs a 6 week camp.
How hard is it for a multi-millionaire to get a trainer?
He's said numerous things that have turned out to be utter shite. Keep eating those shite sandwiches Doofy
Well Anthony Joshua's a multi-millionaire and according to you, he wasn't going to fight Fury because he didn't have a trainer at 10 weeks notice. Glad to see you've now changed your mind on that one
Joshua always has a 12 week camp usually preceded by an overseas camp "bulking up".

So Fury tried to pull a fast one on him calling him out at 10 weeks notice and not giving him time to prepare. What a fraud.

Posted: **10 Jul 2023, 08:18**

BigDoofus wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 07:58
big lennox wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 07:41
BigDoofus wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 07:10

He has said numerous times he only needs a 6 week camp.
How hard is it for a multi-millionaire to get a trainer?
Lame. None of your comments are credible.

I see that Alex Krassyuk has said that the public have turned on Tyson because he is disrespecting them. They pay his wages and he shows them disrespect by his opponent selection.

This.
The same Alex Krassyuk who didn't tell FW that Usyk had quit camp and fled to Poland or the Alex Krassyuk that said on national radio that Fury wasn't to blame for this?

The same Alex Krassyuk who has a great relationship with all the other promoters and never had a problem making a fight for Uysk before he tried to make one with Fury.

Just looking at the comments under Fury's video of him shadow boxing outside. Here's a couple of samples:

"Is it a bird, is it a plane?
It's a bird. A big duck, actually"

"Greedy belly is here."

"LOL Tyson Ducking Fury"

I think Krassyuk may have a point about the public feeling disrespected..

Posted: **10 Jul 2023, 08:31**

tonyevs wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 07:36
mickey1975 wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 05:34
tonyevs wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 05:17

I agree he is the number 1 UK boxing draw .. as the only UK champion in the 'glamour' weight division that is to be expected.
However it's increasing easy to argue he is the world's number 1 heavyweight champion .. he only holds one of the titles and his resume is very thin, and the other champion is fighting mandatory challenges.

Fury only has Wilder of note on his record .. AJ, or the shadow of the previously decent AJ, may explode the Wilder myth soon .. and highlight the shallow quality Fury has thus far met.
It’s getting easier to say Tyson is number one?
Very telling you picked up that typo Mick

I can read. What is telling about that?

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