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raylawpc wrote:

kikibalt wrote:

bennie wrote:Who is Bill Dempsey Young, Frankie? He looks like Michael Buffer after a heavy night.

He is the son hall of fame referee Dick Young, he is also the VP of the Golden State Boxers Association, he likes to talk alot and be in front of the camera, other then that I don't know to much about him.

Explains his middle name. If it were up to me, my son's middle names would be "Ingemar" and "Jeffries," but Linda would never go for it . . .

raylawpc wrote:For Bennie:

Jeff and his "boys:"



With the neighborhood kids:

kikibalt wrote:
Mando Muniz & wife Yolanda
Mando looks good considering all the wars he was in.

bennie wrote:

raylawpc wrote:For Bennie:

Jeff and his "boys:"



With the neighborhood kids:

Thanks, Ray. Jim Jeffries has a special place in the hearts of British fans because, of course, he beat our Bob for the world heavyweight title, and beat him fair and square. OK, Fitzsimmons was a US citizen when he lost the title to Jim but Ruby Robert was born here and spent his early years here, and he never forgot those years in Helston.
I bet he never forgot Jim Jeffries, either.

bennie wrote:

kikibalt wrote:Photo and caption courtesy of Diego


Diamond Joe's wedding, 1912, Chicago

The Don of Chicago and his new wife. He was 44. My grandmother,16.

How many new wives does he have?

raylawpc wrote:

kikibalt wrote:
Mando Muniz & wife Yolanda
Mando looks good considering all the wars he was in.

He looks like he could still go 15 rounds.

Dongee wrote:Rick:

I had just signed Vaughn to meet Charley Green for the state middleweight title when that shot above was taken at the Teamsters' Gym, 7th and Stanford in L.A.

The shot with me and Fraser was taken in the cafe area of Soper's Ranch, which was always located in the mountains near Ojai, Ca. Don was taping an interview to publicize the Green-Vaughn show, to be released to radio sportscasters.

The camp you are probably thinking about near Saugus, was actually nearer Newhall, north of San Fernando. That one was set up by Baron Henry Von Stumme in the late 1920s, when he decided to run ads asking for heavyweight applicants who wanted to be like Jack Dempsey.

Baron was a lifelong hotel manager who spent a small fortune in search of a title contender. He only managed a couple of average talents, Jack Van Noy and Chuck Crowell, out of the dozens he interviewed, housed, trained and fed at his outoor camp.

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raylawpc wrote:

kikibalt wrote:“War A Week” Don Chargin: A Look at the Promoter & Matchmaker
By Dan Hernandez
Ringside Report

I remembered Don Chargin walking down the aisles of the historic Olympic Auditorium in Los Angeles, California; he was the matchmaker for Aileen Eaton from 1964 until 1984. He and Aileen would make their way to ringside and always greeted the cheering fans with smiles, handshakes and an exuberance that permeated the entire arena. Born in 1928, Don has that same enthusiasm today that he had then. He began boxing in high school when an injury kept him from moving forward as a fighter and switched his attentions to working as a boxing coach and developing all the knowledge he could about the sport. This was undoubtedly a stroke of good fortune to the boxing community as few boxers reach and maintain the heights of this business as Chargin has been able to accomplish.

Chargin found his calling as a matchmaker and promoter, promoting his first fight at the tender age of 23 on September 3, 1951. The fight, featuring Eddie Chavez versus Manuel Ortiz, was a rousing success and established a blueprint for matching top, equally skilled talent that gave him his nickname: “War A Week” Chargin. Don has promoted such fights as Bobo Olson vs. Paddy Young, Jerry Quarry vs. Jimmy Young, Joey Giambra vs. Chico Vejar and some of the best fighters of their day, such as: Bobby Chacon, Mando Ramos, Danny Lopez, Pete Ranzany, Carlos Palomino, Tony Lopez, and so many others.

Don Chargin was inducted into the World Boxing Hall of Fame in 2001 and made an acceptance speech that I will share a little of here: “…It’s a real pleasure to be voted into the Hall, especially with some of the fighters I’ve used on many occasions. Ismael Laguna won his lightweight title under our promotion when he beat Mando Ramos. That was I think, 1970. Wherever I go, I’m asked over all these years, what was my favorite fight that you put on, the fight that got you the most excited. I can say gentlemen right here that is going in, Ultiminio “Sugar” Ramos, when he fought Mando Ramos at the Olympic Auditorium. It was the greatest fight I’ve ever seen. They started toe-to-toe in the first 10 seconds and they went all the way. I have a picture at home, when the fight was over, they are leaning on each other, with a big embrace, holding each other up, and they are both cut above and below both eyes. I’ve never seen anything like it. The Olympic Auditorium held 10,400 people and that night we had better than 13,000 people there. We closed circuited it to five theaters and finally Aileen Eaton, who I was associated with at the time, put a closed circuit camera and showed it free on the side of the building. There was nobody who paid their money for that fight who didn’t get value received. And Sugar Ramos was one of the best.

When you come to things like this, it was nice to see Lou Duva, Mickey Duff, Gil Clancy, and Angelo Dundee. We run into each other once in a while but yesterday I renewed acquaintances with a fighter who fought for me over 40 years ago, a television favorite at the time, it was great to see him looking so good, I have nothing but admiration for Joe Miceli.

Now anybody that knows Don Chargin productions, of our operation…things have been going pretty good the last ten, twelve years. Everybody knows that I’m a terrible, terrible details person. I love to make the matches, but my wife does all the work….I’m not saying anything that everybody doesn’t know. She’s been doing this for 40 years, and I think we have a great, great team. I wish Lorraine would stand up. So that’s about all I have to say except that it’s nice to come to Canastota and see all these great, great champions and great friends. Thank you very much.”

The boxing world has lost so many of these outstanding fighters recently, among them, Mando Ramos and Joe Miceli, that I felt it was timely to share such a heartfelt and gracious acknowledgement from someone as well respected and admired as Don Chargin. Don seems to be going stronger than ever, traveling across the country with his beloved wife, Lorraine by his side. Beside his company, Don is also a consultant for Golden Boy Productions and an avid fan and friend of Oscar De La Hoya. Long-time friend and associate of Don Chargin, RSR reader and California Boxing Hall of Fame resident, Frank Baltazar, was instrumental in arranging this communication and I want to take this opportunity to thank him once again for his continued support. Frank also provided me with a DVD tape of the Sugar Ramos versus Mando Ramos fight and it was extraordinary. I am quite pleased to have this film in my library.

When Golden Boy Promotions extended their relationship with Hall of Fame matchmaker and promoter, Don Chargin, the president of Golden Boy, Oscar De La Hoya stated that, “Golden Boy Promotions is fortunate to have Don Chargin, the best in the business, as part of our team.” Chargin added, “ I have been involved in the sport of boxing for over fifty years….never have I seen a group of people, under the leadership of Oscar De La Hoya, which so diligently executes the business plan they set out to implement a few years ago. The rise of Golden Boy Promotions will go down in the history books of boxing as the turning point in the sport. Oscar’s main focus is to bring the sport back, give it visibility and be true to the fighters and the fight fans. I am proud to be part of Golden Boy and intend to be with Oscar and his team for many years to come.” That should be a long time as Don, now 80 years young, has the energy and drive that put most of us younger folk, to shame.

Don simply loves what he does and has dedicated himself to remain focused and true to his chosen profession. Chargin humbly expounded on his successful marriage and the lifelong love of boxing that he and Lorraine have been able to share. It appears to have been his greatest job of matchmaking and most enduring promotion.

Great article, but Jerry Quarry never fought Jimmy Young.

raylawpc wrote:

Dongee wrote:Tom
That's the one I had in mind. You'll note on his record that he boxed at Taft a few times. It seems Jeffries was involved with the Taft enterprise in some way, because I believe he refereed a few shows there, too.

If you can research some of the amateur shows held in the LA area back in the 1930s--40s. some of the boys listed as respresenting Jeffries' Barn were most likely handled in part by Jim in the pro ranks. I used to have a listing of them, somewhere, but today....quien sabe? All of them were white.

About the Kennedy...... angle you had asked me that on the CBZ and I didn't know the answer then.

Can I ask what you are planning to do with your research on Jeffries? I can offer one little tidbit that I was going to use in one of my long awaited (by me, of course) books.

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Thanks Hap. I forgot that I had asked you before about the Les Kennedy-Joe Kennedy connection.

I'm planning to write a biography on Jeffries. I just finished three days of research at the SF Library, and I have a bit to do at the University of Missouri newpaper archives - mostly tracking down a few odds and ends. I would be happy to have any information you can share!!

Rick Farris wrote:

Dongee wrote:Rick:

I had just signed Vaughn to meet Charley Green for the state middleweight title when that shot above was taken at the Teamsters' Gym, 7th and Stanford in L.A.

The shot with me and Fraser was taken in the cafe area of Soper's Ranch, which was always located in the mountains near Ojai, Ca. Don was taping an interview to publicize the Green-Vaughn show, to be released to radio sportscasters.

The camp you are probably thinking about near Saugus, was actually nearer Newhall, north of San Fernando. That one was set up by Baron Henry Von Stumme in the late 1920s, when he decided to run ads asking for heavyweight applicants who wanted to be like Jack Dempsey.

Baron was a lifelong hotel manager who spent a small fortune in search of a title contender. He only managed a couple of average talents, Jack Van Noy and Chuck Crowell, out of the dozens he interviewed, housed, trained and fed at his outoor camp.

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Thanks Hap . . . You know, Baron Von Stumme was still around when I started boxing. In the mid-60's, we had sudden emergence of local heavyweight talent as Aileen began televising her weekly Thursday night cards at the Olympic. Headliners were Jerry Quarry, Joey Orbillo, Jimmy Harriman, Jimmy Rosette, Big Train Lincoln and others. As you mentioned, Baron was desperate for a heavyweight and at this point in history, L.A. was full of them. The Baron had a couple of young heavyweight charges he was pushing and I believe one of them was named Emil Umek, who had a rather forgetable career. By the way, I have several pictures you sent me years back framed and the Baron is one of them.

-Rick

bennie wrote:

kikibalt wrote:

bennie wrote:It's freezing here in England, cold winds, heavy showers - a real taste of winter.

Bennie, it was 104 here a couple days ago, you should come to Sunny California where it never Rains..... 8)

It NEVER rains. Seriously?

kikibalt wrote:
Lou Filippo & Trudy Latka

dagosd2000 wrote:

kikibalt wrote:
Lou Filippo & Trudy Latka

Frank
That's a great shot of Lou Filippo and Trudy Latka.Say Frank,looking at Filippo I see a guy that looks like he understands pasta. When me and the wife head up your way for the banquet,do you know of any good Italian restaurants in the vicinity? If you tell me Pizza Hut,I'll tell the Marriot cooks to serve you Taco Bell.

kikibalt wrote:

dagosd2000 wrote:

kikibalt wrote:
Lou Filippo & Trudy Latka

Frank
That's a great shot of Lou Filippo and Trudy Latka.Say Frank,looking at Filippo I see a guy that looks like he understands pasta. When me and the wife head up your way for the banquet,do you know of any good Italian restaurants in the vicinity? If you tell me Pizza Hut,I'll tell the Marriot cooks to serve you Taco Bell.

Italian food? I don't eat anything that has cheese, and Italian's use lots of cheese, so no, I don't know of any Italian restaurants, give me menudo con pata or give me death..... DD