Dana pulled him from the card because Conor refused to leave Iceland to fulfill promotional obligations in the states. It was then that Conor tweeted that he is retiring.p4p1 wrote:Nope. He has been taken off the 200 card though over contract or promotional disputes or something along those lines.
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Yeah he is indeed in Iceland training at the SBG facility with Gunni. He left Portugal SBG last week to begin prep with Gunni.
Shredder reckons he's worried about pissing hot.
Shredder reckons he's worried about pissing hot.
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I read somewhere that he wanted $10m to fight Diaz, the UFC told him no. Who knows what the actual story is but given that neither party wants the full story to be released I bet it's juicy. I think McGregors problem with asking for more money is that when/if(and there is no reason to believe otherwise) Doaz beats him conclusively again he is less marketable. If he struggles to get past or doesn't get past Aldo/Edgar winner he becomes less marketable. A huge part of his marketability was his aura which is really gone and the trash talk can't work as well for him when he had what is really in a lot of ways an embarrassing loss.
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jujigatame
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What a bizarre turn McG's career has taken. He should have just stayed at 145 and fought Frankie Edgar. I really wonder if he's such a confidence-driven fighter that this loss has seriously affected his training and his outlook on his career.
Either way, I strongly doubt this retirement is anything but a publicity stunt considering the way he spends money.
Either way, I strongly doubt this retirement is anything but a publicity stunt considering the way he spends money.
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If Diaz stays on the card I hope they get him a decent fight. Condit would be good at WW. At LW maybe they could get the Pettis/Barboza winner even though it would only be 6 weeks between fights for them.
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I'd like to see Diaz in with Ferguson if Ferguson is well by then.
Yeah and the whole Conor thing is just bizarre.
Yeah and the whole Conor thing is just bizarre.
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I think you hit the nail on the head. McG wanted more money for a dangerous fight, white refused it.... McG got out of his contract by refusing to do any promos.p4p1 wrote:I read somewhere that he wanted $10m to fight Diaz, the UFC told him no. Who knows what the actual story is but given that neither party wants the full story to be released I bet it's juicy. I think McGregors problem with asking for more money is that when/if(and there is no reason to believe otherwise) Doaz beats him conclusively again he is less marketable. If he struggles to get past or doesn't get past Aldo/Edgar winner he becomes less marketable. A huge part of his marketability was his aura which is really gone and the trash talk can't work as well for him when he had what is really in a lot of ways an embarrassing loss.
Truth is, despite his loss, Connor's 'brand' (I hate that word) is big enough to make those kind of demands. He has a good bargaining tool, though 1 more loss would hurt that significantly. Connor could even go to a rival organisation and, as long as their pockets are deep enough, he would bring big publicity to that org. He could slag off UFC, beat up lower ranked opponents..... With his chat he could rubbish UFC, White.... He would get loads of publicity. Eventually they could get a hotel room, get back together.... McG can fight the UFC champion... Suddenly you've got the biggest story and UFC fight of all time..... Everyone makes huge money. And the fans love it. It would be like a WWE storyline except the fights are real, obviously.
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Attention whores will whore for attention, QED.
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The UFC cut CMac a 10 million dollar check for the first fight with Diaz. That is a fact. It was the single highest check that the UFC cut to any fighter EVER!! Prior to that check brock lesner had the biggest check cut to him in the history of the UFC, that was for a flat fee of 5 million bucks.p4p1 wrote:I read somewhere that he wanted $10m to fight Diaz, the UFC told him no. Who knows what the actual story is but given that neither party wants the full story to be released I bet it's juicy. I think McGregors problem with asking for more money is that when/if(and there is no reason to believe otherwise) Doaz beats him conclusively again he is less marketable. If he struggles to get past or doesn't get past Aldo/Edgar winner he becomes less marketable. A huge part of his marketability was his aura which is really gone and the trash talk can't work as well for him when he had what is really in a lot of ways an embarrassing loss.
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CMAC got 10 million dollars for the first fight with Nate. That was base plus PPV share. He is only 1 of 2 UFC fighters to get PPV shares currently. He then agreed to a sum for a rematch with PPV plus PPV shares for this second fight. When he and his people went over the UFC 100 numbers and their staggering amounts of revenue for the UFC he came back to Dana and said he would not fight for less than somewhere in the final neighborhood of 15 million to 20 million dollars or have a bigger share of PPV money. Lorenzo and Dana told him to get bent. This has been at impasse for almost a month. Dana went back to CMac last weekend and asked him if he was going to fight at the terms they agreed to initially CMac said no and held his ground, went on twitter right away and said he is retired. I know a good source on this I have little doubt this is true.
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He is not on drugs, this is all about money and his greed and what he feels he should get. I think he has played his hand wrong but who knows. I still think there is the slightest possibility of this working out but CMac would have to come back to the original terms and quickly.Poncey wrote:Yeah he is indeed in Iceland training at the SBG facility with Gunni. He left Portugal SBG last week to begin prep with Gunni.
Shredder reckons he's worried about pissing hot.
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This is some pretty good intel.Lancenix wrote:CMAC got 10 million dollars for the first fight with Nate. That was base plus PPV share. He is only 1 of 2 UFC fighters to get PPV shares currently. He then agreed to a sum for a rematch with PPV plus PPV shares for this second fight. When and he his people went over the UFC 100 numbers and their staggering amounts of revenue for the UFC he came back to Dana and said he would not fight for less than somewhere in the final neighborhood of 15 million to 20 million dollars or have a bigger share of PPV money. Lorenzo and Dana told him to get bent. This has been at impasse for almost a month. Dana went back to CMac last weekend and asked him if he was going to fight at the terms they agreed to initially CMac said no and held his ground, went on twitter right away and said he is retired. I know a good source on this I have little doubt this is true.
So, when all is said and done, it was about money and not health concerns?
Whether he is retired or not, the UFC have to stop talking about it and get this out of the headlines. Talk to Conor's folks offline and under the table.
There are currently some rather high profile fights right around the corner that are not getting marketed the longer this squabble stays in the headlines. Let this blow over. Simply wish Conor good luck on his retirement and move on.
DW should just clam up and only talk about Jones, MM vs. Cejudo, the heavyweight title fight next month, etc.
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This is all about CMac being CMac right now. He thinks he holds all the cards and from what I hear Dana has been the most flexible on his dealings with CMac while Lorenzo is growing tired of CMac's act. This is all about money for CMac plain and simple. He is not going to test dirty at all and while he was ringside for a fight that resulted in someone dying, if Dana had given into his demands he would be headlining UFC 200. This is the story that will leak in the next few days and the story is starting to spread more and more tonight. They had a verbal agreement that CMac has walked away from. The UFC does not have a headliner for the 200 card yet but like you said they will find one. With the cash that will be available for the main event a lot of possible fights will be on the table. I think Nate will be bumped from top billing in the end and if they can't find someone for him he may be the biggest loser of all in all this but I see no way he stays in the main event of this card.zojo, wrote:This is some pretty good intel.Lancenix wrote:CMAC got 10 million dollars for the first fight with Nate. That was base plus PPV share. He is only 1 of 2 UFC fighters to get PPV shares currently. He then agreed to a sum for a rematch with PPV plus PPV shares for this second fight. When and he his people went over the UFC 100 numbers and their staggering amounts of revenue for the UFC he came back to Dana and said he would not fight for less than somewhere in the final neighborhood of 15 million to 20 million dollars or have a bigger share of PPV money. Lorenzo and Dana told him to get bent. This has been at impasse for almost a month. Dana went back to CMac last weekend and asked him if he was going to fight at the terms they agreed to initially CMac said no and held his ground, went on twitter right away and said he is retired. I know a good source on this I have little doubt this is true.
So, when all is said and done, it was about money and not health concerns?
Whether he is retired or not, the UFC have to stop talking about it and get this out of the headlines. Talk to Conor's folks offline and under the table.
There are currently some rather high profile fights right around the corner that are not getting marketed the longer this squabble stays in the headlines. Let this blow over. Simply wish Conor good luck on his retirement and move on.
DW should just clam up and only talk about Jones, MM vs. Cejudo, the heavyweight title fight next month, etc.
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Dana said it's not a money issue and Conor has never come back to ask for more money after the deal has been finalized. This was on a Fox interview last night.
Seems like Dana is a liar. Who knew...
Seems like Dana is a liar. Who knew...
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Conor has talked a lot about loyalty. Yet, he's now biting the hand that feeds. The more and more time goes on, the more and more crap we see Conor truly made of.
We'll find out the real reason why he is passing on his obligations sooner or later. It's all speculation at this point.
If the shoe was on the other foot, and it was Nate refusing to fulfill his promotional obligations, how do you think Conor would respond?
Maybe Nate should respond similarly.
We'll find out the real reason why he is passing on his obligations sooner or later. It's all speculation at this point.
If the shoe was on the other foot, and it was Nate refusing to fulfill his promotional obligations, how do you think Conor would respond?
Maybe Nate should respond similarly.
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Counter-puncher wrote:Attention whores will whore for attention, QED.
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So now he's not retired after all and still wants to fight at UFC 200.
What a maroon.
What a maroon.
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So, not retired.
Zuffa wants Conor do do press tours in Vegas.
Conor wants to cut down on the media responsibilities and focus on training.
Can't they have it both ways?
Conor can stay in Iceland training and still do "media promotion" by giving skype interviews, tweeting ridiculous things, and doing Reddit Q and As.
After all, one Facebook novella that he writes will give him more attention than three visits to Good Mornng Merica, a 30 second clip on SportsCenter, or a visit with Kelly Rippa.
Zuffa wants Conor do do press tours in Vegas.
Conor wants to cut down on the media responsibilities and focus on training.
Can't they have it both ways?
Conor can stay in Iceland training and still do "media promotion" by giving skype interviews, tweeting ridiculous things, and doing Reddit Q and As.
After all, one Facebook novella that he writes will give him more attention than three visits to Good Mornng Merica, a 30 second clip on SportsCenter, or a visit with Kelly Rippa.
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fair comments from conor
the mans a fighter who just wants to fight and is right in what he says
the mans a fighter who just wants to fight and is right in what he says
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I doubt McGregor's press obligations are any more stringent than Diaz's. He's basically asking for an advantage.
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All PPV headliners get a form of PPV shares. Though I'm sure Conor's was higher. Anybody that thinks losing would hurt him that much doesn't remember Chael Sonnen.zojo, wrote:This is some pretty good intel.Lancenix wrote:CMAC got 10 million dollars for the first fight with Nate. That was base plus PPV share. He is only 1 of 2 UFC fighters to get PPV shares currently. He then agreed to a sum for a rematch with PPV plus PPV shares for this second fight. When and he his people went over the UFC 100 numbers and their staggering amounts of revenue for the UFC he came back to Dana and said he would not fight for less than somewhere in the final neighborhood of 15 million to 20 million dollars or have a bigger share of PPV money. Lorenzo and Dana told him to get bent. This has been at impasse for almost a month. Dana went back to CMac last weekend and asked him if he was going to fight at the terms they agreed to initially CMac said no and held his ground, went on twitter right away and said he is retired. I know a good source on this I have little doubt this is true.
So, when all is said and done, it was about money and not health concerns?
Whether he is retired or not, the UFC have to stop talking about it and get this out of the headlines. Talk to Conor's folks offline and under the table.
There are currently some rather high profile fights right around the corner that are not getting marketed the longer this squabble stays in the headlines. Let this blow over. Simply wish Conor good luck on his retirement and move on.
DW should just clam up and only talk about Jones, MM vs. Cejudo, the heavyweight title fight next month, etc.
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That's bullshit, all that media helped make him a star as much as his fighting. Dana has plenty of things to criticize, wanting the headliner for a PPV to be available for posters, videos and press conferences is not one of them.Oiky wrote:fair comments from conor![]()
the mans a fighter who just wants to fight and is right in what he says
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Supposedly DW is sticking to his guns and saying that McGregor will NOT be fighting on the UFC 200 card.
I'm hoping the end result of all this is McGregor back at 145 fighting Edgar or Aldo in the summer/fall.
I'm hoping the end result of all this is McGregor back at 145 fighting Edgar or Aldo in the summer/fall.
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No they do not you are wrong once again. CMac is only one of two fighters in the UFC to get PPV shares on all his fights.SaadOffTheDeck wrote:All PPV headliners get a form of PPV shares. Though I'm sure Conor's was higher. Anybody that thinks losing would hurt him that much doesn't remember Chael Sonnen.zojo, wrote:This is some pretty good intel.Lancenix wrote:CMAC got 10 million dollars for the first fight with Nate. That was base plus PPV share. He is only 1 of 2 UFC fighters to get PPV shares currently. He then agreed to a sum for a rematch with PPV plus PPV shares for this second fight. When and he his people went over the UFC 100 numbers and their staggering amounts of revenue for the UFC he came back to Dana and said he would not fight for less than somewhere in the final neighborhood of 15 million to 20 million dollars or have a bigger share of PPV money. Lorenzo and Dana told him to get bent. This has been at impasse for almost a month. Dana went back to CMac last weekend and asked him if he was going to fight at the terms they agreed to initially CMac said no and held his ground, went on twitter right away and said he is retired. I know a good source on this I have little doubt this is true.
So, when all is said and done, it was about money and not health concerns?
Whether he is retired or not, the UFC have to stop talking about it and get this out of the headlines. Talk to Conor's folks offline and under the table.
There are currently some rather high profile fights right around the corner that are not getting marketed the longer this squabble stays in the headlines. Let this blow over. Simply wish Conor good luck on his retirement and move on.
DW should just clam up and only talk about Jones, MM vs. Cejudo, the heavyweight title fight next month, etc.
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Like I said Dana is covering for this guy because he knows that they can mutually benefit from each other again and they will. Lorenzo is the one who will not let CMac back into this 200 though now. Anyone who believes this is all about pressers is simply foolish.danamba7 wrote:Dana said it's not a money issue and Conor has never come back to ask for more money after the deal has been finalized. This was on a Fox interview last night.
Seems like Dana is a liar. Who knew...
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