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Re: Re:

Posted: 14 Oct 2008, 23:02
by Randyman
dagosd2000 wrote:
Randyman wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Image

The movie

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Frank, this movie is one of my personal favorites. A slice of 1940's-1950's L.A. from a Chicano perspective. Of course everyone knows that Art Aragon was in the movie, playing himself but did you know Keeny was in the movie? He's in a gym scene skipping rope.
I'm surprised you red blooded boys didn't mention the young Rosita Moreno. I think she was 16 when she made her first movie in 1950 playing a "Chola" or in those days a "Pachuca". Spicy little thing.
All that Menudo con patas must have jarred the brain a little. Spicy indeed. Muy Caliente, Verdad?

Re: Re:

Posted: 14 Oct 2008, 23:04
by dagosd2000
Randyman wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Image
1974 Los Angeles Nat. G.G. team on the way to Denver for the national tournament.
Frank, is that Zeffie in the back row. Sure looks like him. It's been years since I've seen him.
WHEN SONS MADE THEIR FATHERS PROUD

Those were the days when you were proud to wear a letterman's jacket. You stood out. You were an athlete. The other guys envied you. The girls were attracted to you. The more letters you had was like a higher rank. You were a veteran of the trenches or the diamond or the court.

Now it's cool to have your pants sag and wear your cap backwards. Have a rag hanging out of your pant pocket. Maybe a chain dangling from your belt. How about a comb that looks like a pitch fork in your hair?. Then there's the pro football jersey they wear yet they're too lazy to try out for the team. They don't have what it takes,but they're dressed the part. Either a "wanna be gangsta" or a phony baloney athlete.

That's why we stay on this thread. To get away from the bullshit.

Re: Re:

Posted: 14 Oct 2008, 23:08
by Randyman
dagosd2000 wrote:
Randyman wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Image
1974 Los Angeles Nat. G.G. team on the way to Denver for the national tournament.
Frank, is that Zeffie in the back row. Sure looks like him. It's been years since I've seen him.
WHEN BOYS ACTED LIKE THEIR FATHERS

Those were the days when you were proud to wear a letterman's jacket. You stood out. You were an athlete. The other guys envied you. The girls were attracted to you. The more letters you had was like a higher rank. You were a veteran of the trenches or the diamond or the court.

Now it's cool to have your pants sag and wear your cap backwards. Have a rag hanging out of your pant pocket. Maybe a chain dangling from your belt. How about a comb that looks like a pitch fork in your hair?. Then there's the pro football jersey they wear yet they're too lazy to try out for the team. They don't have what it takes,but they're dressed the part. Either a "wanna be gangsta" or a phony baloney athlete.

That's why we stay on this thread. To get away from the bullshit.
Well said Rog, that deserves a big "AMEN"!

Re: Re:

Posted: 14 Oct 2008, 23:32
by Rick Farris
Randyman wrote:
scartissue wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Rick; do you remember Felipe Torres?

By Randy De La O
Thoughts on Boxing and Boxers and Fights

Felipe Torres
Last Sunday, March 2nd, 2008, the following letter was posted on our message board on the Main Street Gym entry. It is from the brother of Felipe Torres, Epifanio Z. Torres. You may or may not remember but I wrote briefly about my experience sparring with him during the 1970's. They didn't make them any tougher than Felipe. Mr. Torres informs me that his brother Felipe passed away in 1993 under difficult circumstances. Our condolences to the entire Torres family.

My time with Felipe was brief, a couple of years at best. I never forgot him. How do you forget a man that taught you some of life's hardest lessons. He forced me to learn to stand my ground, taught me how to endure pain, forced me to learn how to slip a punch, and out of desperation taught me how to use the jab to keep an opponent off of me. More than anything he taught me humility, and to never judge a man by his appearance. I never made that mistake again and I have carried his memory and that lesson around with me my entire life. I have passed that lesson to my children.

I have no idea how much his family knows about his career or if they have an insight into the mind of a fighter, but I can tell them without even speaking to Felipe that he was proud of his days in the ring. Every fighter is. You carry that pride all of your days. It never leaves you, whether you had a couple of fights or a hundred. Whatever work you do after that, you are still a fighter. With that in mind you should know that when Felipe fought Roberto Duran on March 28, 1970 in Mexico City, he did not just fight another fighter, he fought a legend. How many men have passed that can make that statement? Just a handful, trust me. When Duran was young, and knocking out everyone that was put in front of him, Felipe fought him and went the distance. He went the distance with a legend!

I hope that someone who reads this will be able to provide a photo for the family, or perhaps a personal story. I'll be happy to print it. When Mr. Torres and family provide more about details about Felipe, I'll pass them on to you. Below is the letter by Epifanio Z. Torres

Rest in Peace, Felipe

Dear Sir,

My name is Epifanio Z. Torres. I live in El Centro, Ca. I am Felipe Torres' brother. My mom is right next to me right now, and I was translating to her the part of the article that you wrote about my brother Felipe. It almost brought tears to my mom and I. You probably don't know, but Felipe died in 1993. As you were saying, he was a tough little fighter, but like many of them, he died in very difficult conditions. I'd really appreciate in other information, pictures articles that you might have about him. My mom is 83 yrs. old and she'd probably love to see some of that stuff you and your readers might have about him. I have found, in some other websites, a partial boxing record of his. From what I remember, he fought with the best featherweights of his time: He fought Roberto Duran in Mexico City: Kuniaki Shibata in Japan (he lost split decision there which is equal to a victory), he also fought with Shozo Saijo in Hawaii and lost split decision; Ricardo Arredondo, was another one of his rivals, and I am not quite sure, but I think he fought a boxer named Cesar Sinda who died after their fight. I believe I saw his name on the WBC classifications as being the #7 featherweight of the world in the 1970's. A cousin of mine sent me this link, which I am planning to bookmark. I hope you, or some of your readers might have some more info. about my brother, or other links related to him.


Thank you,

Epifanio Z. Torres
Man, I just posted yesterday and already there's 3 pages added to this thread since then. No moss growing on anything here. In regards to Felipe Torres. He was a real favorite of mine. When he was a featherweight he was considered very fast and even went by the monicker Felipe 'The flash' Torres. He broke into the world ratings with a 6th round KO over Bobby Valdez. I didn't get a chance to see him until he fought lightweight and probably lost alot of that speed in the move up. He was funny, no muscle tone at all but a damn good body-puncher and forget about trying to hurt him. He wasn't big in defense but what a jaw. You could hit him all day but it was like there was a hinge attached to the back of his neck and he would just keep coming. I saw both of his fights with Cesar Sinda and both times Sinda looked phenominal boxing rings around Felipe. In the 1st fight, after losing the 1st 9 rounds, Felipe came out for the 10th like a man on a mission. Throwing nothing but body punches he knocked out Sinda. In the rematch Sinda stayed the course and took the decision. His best weight was probably at Featherweight, but he also held another KO over Angel Mayoral who went on to become #1 lightweight contender and regarding the fight with Duran, I glommed bits and pieces about that fight and found that Felipe hurt Duran pretty good in one of the rounds of their 10 rounder. Incidentally, I once had a conversation with Rick about two of the best jaws I ever saw, Raul Montoya and Felipe Torres. I mentioned to him, "Man, did you ever see Montoya go down?" And to my surprise he said, "Yeah, against Dwight Hawkins." Of course I researched the fight, which I always do and found Rick's memory of course to be 100% correct. And, researching Felipe Torres, which I had to do, I could find only one instance where he went down. Amazingly, against Raul Montoya in the 2nd round of their fight (I think they fought twice), but I believe Torres got up to win. Good memories of a damn good fighter.
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Randy . . . I boxed with Felipe Torres many, many,many times at the Main St. Gym from the time I turned pro in 1970 until I left boxing a half dozen years later. In 1971, it was my workouts with Torres that got me in the best shape of my career. I don't remember him as a great hitter, but he wasn't easy to hit, and he could box, I mean he could really box. He could stand in front of an opponent and make 'em miss, then make 'em pay! I remember to this day, Larry or Memo Soto giving us water between rounds. Felipe was a busy fighter, he was always on you and could throw punches from every angle. Working with him made me sharp, and after working with Felipe prior to a six rounder I had on the undercard of the Buchanan-Navarro title match, I was at my best and won big. Anyway, I'm saddened to learn of his death. A nice man, a great fighter, a big loss.

-Rick Farris

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 14 Oct 2008, 23:44
by Expug
Randyman wrote:
Randyman wrote:Image
This photo was taken in November of '03 in my backyard. It was my sons going away party. These are the guys that I grew up with. To use Pug's term, they are a bunch of "Stand Up Guys". We have known each other since we were kids. We still pal around when we get the chance. They came that night in support of my son. That's being a stand up guy! From the left: Mike Teran (Keeny's Teran nephew), Big Al Campos, Me, Ken Robledo, Gabe Herrera.

About Al Campos: Talk about heart! This guy was thrown from his van in an accident, not too long after High School. He was paralyzed and told he would never walk again. He knew otherwise. He was a Basketball player and had plans to play in college. He's 6'6". He was a great all around athlete, and when he had to defend himself, a hell of a street fighter too. He refused to feel sorry for himself. Somehow he found it in himself and willed himself to walk again. It didn't happen right away. He was in a wheelchair for years.

He didn't wait around though. He became part of a group of wheelchair Basketball players ( I'm sure there is another name) and toured the country and lived out his dream to be a basketball player. No sissy this guy. At some point, against everything he was told, he began walking with a cane. Still does. They don't make them any tougher than Big Al. There is no way to say what this guy has been through over the years. But look into his eyes and his face. There is no quit in him.

There is one pal that wasn't there that night, he lives in Salt Lake City now. There have been a few guys that would come into our circle but this was the core. All these guys can take care of themselves and all these guys have my respect.
Frank, I'm not sure if you saw this. Mike Teran is in the photo. This is the most recent photo I have of him.
You have wonderful Friends Randy.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 15 Oct 2008, 03:52
by bennie
raylawpc wrote:
bennie wrote:Tell us more, Ray. Corbett always looked a bit snidey, to me.
"Snidey" is a good description. Like all of us, Corbett had his share of character flaws (racist, braggart, poor sport, etc.). But the most telling for a guy who was styled as "gentleman" was the way in which he treated his women. He left his first wife, a delightful San Francisco girl named Olive, for his second wife, Vera, a showgirl whom he met on the road and then introduced as his wife - while still married to Olive. He cheated on both wives - often brazenly. And rumors floated around at the time that he beat both of them. Hardly a "gentleman."
Is it true Corbett was never even a bank clerk?

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 15 Oct 2008, 03:56
by bennie
Randyman wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Image
Tony Ayala
Talk about wasted talent! I have no sympathy for this guy. Not one iota. He was given a second chance at life and career and ends up doing the same thing. The man is a convicted rapist.

As for his boxing career, he might have become a champ. There's no such thing as a sure bet but he just might have done it. If my memory serves me right they were going to match him with Roberto Duran just before he flushed his career down the toilet. He was a rugged fighter but he fought with uncontrolled anger. I think that would have worked against him with someone like Duran, but who knows.
Duran hated the 'movers'; walk into Duran - and he killed you. Ayala was 'made' for Duran. They were due to meet in November 1982 but Duran lost a warm-up fight to 'mover' Kirkland Laing in September 1982 and the opportunity was lost for Duran to shine (the fight was scuppered).
Ayala was overrated, in my opinion. He could punch, and Lou Duva certainly knew how to 'hype' his man - but who did Ayala actually ever beat?

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 15 Oct 2008, 04:00
by bennie
Expug wrote:Bennie, fight fans here were always excited about Leroy Murphy.
He was such a huge puncher and a tremendous amateur that people really had high expectations .
He made the 1980 olympic team , but of course the US boycoted those games so Leroy didnt go.
I think fans wound up a little disappointed in Murphy as they thought he could have done more in the pro ranks.
He used to get huge between fights which gave the impression that he wasnt working that hard and liked to play around too much.Id see him in the gym, and he looked like a different person between fights.
When he fought Mutti, there really wasnt that much press about it here in Chicago.Maybe because Mutti wasnt that well known here, or because the fight was in Monte Carlo I think.
In one of his biggest fights, against Dwight Qwawi, he got the shit kicked out of him.I think that might be the fight that most remains in peoples minds.I think it was on National TV here.
We got this one over here. What a fight, what a finish!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=R_BhkSKeDFg

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 15 Oct 2008, 04:02
by bennie
kikibalt wrote:Image

Dennis Andries vs J.B. Williamson

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Dennis was horrible to watch but incredibly strong and awkward and Williamson never got into the fight. Rumour is the JB was short for "Just Bad". Neither man looked good.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 15 Oct 2008, 05:23
by bennie
kikibalt wrote:Image
Dennis Andries vs Tomas Hearns
Tommy was at his peak in 1987. He brutalized Dennis at light-heavyweight (the fight should have been stopped way earlier than it was) and brutalized Roldan at middleweight - both for major versions of the world title. Roldan was down for a few minutes.
Two fine wins.

Andries, incidentally, came back to lick fancied American Tony Willis for the light-heavy title, lost it in a classic to Aussie iron man Jeff Harding (now walking on his heels, inevitably) in Atlantic City (the antics of Jeff Fenech at ringside were quite amusing as he roared his man home right next to his mate Tyson), then went over to Oz and crushed Harding in eight to win the title a THIRD time. Quite simply, the latter win is one of the greatest from a British fighter abroad, although Andries was fighting for Kronk by this time.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 15 Oct 2008, 06:56
by kikibalt
Courtesy of Robby

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Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 15 Oct 2008, 06:59
by kikibalt
Randyman wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Image
My brother Mando and I.....C.1970
Nice photo of you and your brother Frank. Was Mando in Nam?
Yeah, Randy, he did two tours.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 15 Oct 2008, 07:01
by bennie
kikibalt wrote:Courtesy of Robby

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Cheers for this Robby and Frankie. It is nice to see real blue collar fighters giving something back and looking happy. Great shot of his war with Tony. Moore is certainly keeping his arms up and his chin down.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 15 Oct 2008, 07:10
by kikibalt
Rockin Rodney Moore,
Former Professional
Welter Wt. Boxing Champ and 2-Time
Boxing Hall of Famer
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I was born in Wilmington, North Carolina. My family later moved to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. I attended Reynolds Elementary School, Vaux Jr. High School and graduated from Germantown High School. After high school, I attended the I.S.T. Academy (Institute of Security and Technology) to become a police officer. However, after graduating, I decided I wanted to become a boxer instead. I worked as a security officer at Community College of Pennsylvania. I also worked as a disc jockey for 5 years in various Philadelphia night clubs.

I have been a volunteer role model in many of the Philadelphia public schools for more than 10 years. I have received certificates and awards for "giving back to the kids". I then began boxing at the Pal. I had 45 amateur bouts with an amateur record of 43 wins and 22 knock outs - thus winning a Pennsylvania State Golden Gloves championship and the Sugar Ray Leonard Golden Gloves championship.

Soon after that, I turned professional and was a world class contender for seven years. My first professional fight was against amateur 139 lb. King, Tyrone Trice. I defeated South Philly’s Ali Saad Muhammad for the State Jr. Welterweight title. Also, during my career, I have defeated some former world champions like Livingstone Bramble and Miguel Santana. I defeated some dangerous contenders such as Tony "the Tiger" Baltazar, Willie Taylor and 1984 Olympic Gold Medalist Jerry Page. I knocked out some of boxing’s best such as Louie Lomelli, the hard punching Sammy Fuentes, knock out artist Alfredo "Scarface" Rojas and top rated contender Victorio Belcher.

My first world title shot was against Charles "the Natural" Murray for the IBF world junior welterweight title. My next world title shots were against Frankie "the Surgeon" Randall for the WBA world junior welterweight title and hard hitting Felix Tito Trinidad for the IBF world welterweight championship. I had 52 professional fights and a record of 42 wins, 2 draws with 25 knockouts.

I had a great career in boxing. In 1998, I was presented with a trophy for boxer of the decade. Also, on a prominent boxing poster, I am among the Philly’s all time greats; that to me is a very big accomplishment and honor. I was also honored from 2001 to the present at the David Wilkes Annual Salute To Philly Boxers Dinner and Ceremony. After having fought 31 bouts at the legendary Blue Horizon, I was given the nickname "Mr. Blue Horizon" then later upgraded to "King of the Blue Horizon". On November 18th 2004, I was Inducted into the Prestigious New Jersey Boxing Hall Of Fame.

I have now entered into a place where the greatest fighters that ever lived has gone, now I am a part of that History and I will too go down as one of those greatest fighters. Also on November the 18th, Philadelphia^s City Council, Honored me with an Engrossed Copy of a Resolution in City Council Chambers on my selection into the Hall and on my Youth Organization. On September 29, 2005 I was presented with an award for being selected into the Middle Atlantic Boxing Outstanding Alumni at the Middle Atlantic Boxing Association Annual Awards, Dinner and Ceremony. On May 20, 2007 I was inducted into the Prestigious Pennsylvania Boxing Hall of Fame.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 15 Oct 2008, 08:14
by kikibalt
Photo and caption by Diego

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This area is very popular on weekends. Families get together to eat and party.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 15 Oct 2008, 08:21
by bennie
kikibalt wrote:Rockin Rodney Moore,
Former Professional
Welter Wt. Boxing Champ and 2-Time
Boxing Hall of Famer
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I was born in Wilmington, North Carolina. My family later moved to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. I attended Reynolds Elementary School, Vaux Jr. High School and graduated from Germantown High School. After high school, I attended the I.S.T. Academy (Institute of Security and Technology) to become a police officer. However, after graduating, I decided I wanted to become a boxer instead. I worked as a security officer at Community College of Pennsylvania. I also worked as a disc jockey for 5 years in various Philadelphia night clubs.

I have been a volunteer role model in many of the Philadelphia public schools for more than 10 years. I have received certificates and awards for "giving back to the kids". I then began boxing at the Pal. I had 45 amateur bouts with an amateur record of 43 wins and 22 knock outs - thus winning a Pennsylvania State Golden Gloves championship and the Sugar Ray Leonard Golden Gloves championship.

Soon after that, I turned professional and was a world class contender for seven years. My first professional fight was against amateur 139 lb. King, Tyrone Trice. I defeated South Philly’s Ali Saad Muhammad for the State Jr. Welterweight title. Also, during my career, I have defeated some former world champions like Livingstone Bramble and Miguel Santana. I defeated some dangerous contenders such as Tony "the Tiger" Baltazar, Willie Taylor and 1984 Olympic Gold Medalist Jerry Page. I knocked out some of boxing’s best such as Louie Lomelli, the hard punching Sammy Fuentes, knock out artist Alfredo "Scarface" Rojas and top rated contender Victorio Belcher.

My first world title shot was against Charles "the Natural" Murray for the IBF world junior welterweight title. My next world title shots were against Frankie "the Surgeon" Randall for the WBA world junior welterweight title and hard hitting Felix Tito Trinidad for the IBF world welterweight championship. I had 52 professional fights and a record of 42 wins, 2 draws with 25 knockouts.

I had a great career in boxing. In 1998, I was presented with a trophy for boxer of the decade. Also, on a prominent boxing poster, I am among the Philly’s all time greats; that to me is a very big accomplishment and honor. I was also honored from 2001 to the present at the David Wilkes Annual Salute To Philly Boxers Dinner and Ceremony. After having fought 31 bouts at the legendary Blue Horizon, I was given the nickname "Mr. Blue Horizon" then later upgraded to "King of the Blue Horizon". On November 18th 2004, I was Inducted into the Prestigious New Jersey Boxing Hall Of Fame.

I have now entered into a place where the greatest fighters that ever lived has gone, now I am a part of that History and I will too go down as one of those greatest fighters. Also on November the 18th, Philadelphia^s City Council, Honored me with an Engrossed Copy of a Resolution in City Council Chambers on my selection into the Hall and on my Youth Organization. On September 29, 2005 I was presented with an award for being selected into the Middle Atlantic Boxing Outstanding Alumni at the Middle Atlantic Boxing Association Annual Awards, Dinner and Ceremony. On May 20, 2007 I was inducted into the Prestigious Pennsylvania Boxing Hall of Fame.
It certainly took a good guy to beat Tony. Moore was a lot better than I realized.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 15 Oct 2008, 08:32
by kikibalt
Bennie, Moore was a good boxer, not a one punch ko artist, but a good puncher never the less.
I still say the ref saved him from a ko vs Tony.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 15 Oct 2008, 08:34
by bennie
Who was the ref, Frankie?

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 15 Oct 2008, 08:44
by kikibalt
bennie wrote:Who was the ref, Frankie?
Don't remember Bennie.... :oo

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 15 Oct 2008, 08:55
by bennie
kikibalt wrote:
bennie wrote:Who was the ref, Frankie?
Don't remember Bennie.... :oo
There's nothing worse than hometown bias from referees. You expect it from judges but when referees are in the promoter's pocket, it is a dangerous thing. Moore could have been seriously hurt by this referee trying desperately to keep him in the fight.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 15 Oct 2008, 10:16
by raylawpc
bennie wrote:
raylawpc wrote:
bennie wrote:Tell us more, Ray. Corbett always looked a bit snidey, to me.
"Snidey" is a good description. Like all of us, Corbett had his share of character flaws (racist, braggart, poor sport, etc.). But the most telling for a guy who was styled as "gentleman" was the way in which he treated his women. He left his first wife, a delightful San Francisco girl named Olive, for his second wife, Vera, a showgirl whom he met on the road and then introduced as his wife - while still married to Olive. He cheated on both wives - often brazenly. And rumors floated around at the time that he beat both of them. Hardly a "gentleman."
Is it true Corbett was never even a bank clerk?
No, he was a bank clerk.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 15 Oct 2008, 10:18
by bennie
Cheers, Ray. I'll let him off that one. :D

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 15 Oct 2008, 10:32
by raylawpc
Randyman wrote:
raylawpc wrote:Randy, your son joins an elite company. Jack Dempsey was a Coastie in WWII - so was my Dad!!
I'm glad you said that Tom. The Coast Guard gets the least amount of press and attention of all the Military branches. At the time he went in, I had no idea that they traveled the world. The have jurisdiction in a way no other branch does. My son had been on the USCGC Mellon for a few years and had literally been around the world. When he found out the USCGC Midgett was going to Iraq he requested a transfer and went to Iraq. He was training Military Police from some of the military from various countries in the Gulf area. I'm not sure which countries. They taught self defense, arrest techniques, etc. He saved the lives of three ship mates.

I was aware of Dempsey being in the Coast Guard. In one of the buildings in the Cape May Boot Camp facilities in New Jersey there is a tribute and recognition of Dempsey's service. Kudos to your Dad for his service. I was in the Navy myself.
My Grandpa had no idea that Coasties travel the world either.

My Dad was born in 1927, which made him too young to participate in WWII without parental permission. He kept bugging my grandparents to let him join so that he could serve his country before the war was over. Finally, Grandpa relented, but only if Dad would join the Coast Guard. Grandpa figured they "guarded the coast," and my Dad would be in real danger only if the Japanese invaded California.

Well, the next thing my Grandpa knew, Dad was through bootcamp (where Lou Ambers was his self-defense instructor), out of engineering school, and onto an LST in the middle of the Pacific. My Dad's LST followed the Marines onto Pacific islands after the Marines established a beachhead, but were still engaged in fighting the Japanese. The job of the LSTs was to deliver the Marines' heavy equipment such as tanks, jeeps, etc. The Japanese would try to target the LSTs with canon file when the LSTs brought in the materials. Dad also had to deal with Kamakazi planes hitting ships, and saw two ships right next to his get struck by Kamakazis.

So such for "guarding the coast."

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 15 Oct 2008, 10:45
by Randyman
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Paths of Services Meet on a Bloody Beach in the Pacific
Reprinted from Military.Com

Paths of Services Meet on a Bloody Beach in the Pacific
U.S. Coast Guard | PA1 Kyle Niemi | September 27, 2006

As America's two smallest armed services, the U.S. Marine Corps and the U.S. Coast Guard have much more in common than many may think.



It's not our uniforms or our haircuts; it's not our equipment or our training.

It's our history and our traditions; it's our honor and our commitment.

Both services were established to help protect a fledgling nation, vulnerable to enemies- both foreign and domestic. Both services are on the frontlines of today's global war on terrorism- with members fighting both at home and abroad. And both services are proud of our members who paid the ultimate sacrifice having been wounded or killed in defense of our country.

Bronze Stars, Purple Hearts and Medals of Honor adorn the gravesites of both Coast Guard and Marine Corps combat veterans.

THE BIRTH OF THE UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS - THE FEW. THE PROUD.

On Nov. 10, 1775, the Continental Congress passed a resolution raising two battalions of Marines to serve as landing forces in combat. This resolution established the Continental Marines, who saw action until the Treaty of Paris ended the Revolutionary War in 1783. The treaty resulted in the disbanding of the Continental Marines and Continental Navy.

The formal re-establishment of the Marine Corps was through an act of Congress on July 11, 1798.

THE BIRTH OF THE UNITED STATES COAST GUARD - GUARDIANS OF THE SEA

Immediately following the Revolutionary War, the United States government struggled to maintain financial stability. Although import tariff laws were in place, rampant smuggling by merchants transporting cargo by sea signaled the need for strong enforcement of maritime tariffs. On Aug. 4, 1790, Congress passed the Revenue Cutter Bill, authorizing the construction of 10 armed vessels, thus establishing the Revenue Marine. The Revenue Marine cutter crews were charged with enforcing the tariffs and other maritime laws and operated as the only armed federal vessels in the nation's service for nearly 10 years; the Navy Department was not established until 1798.

Officially known as the Revenue Cutter Service since 1862, the service was merged with the U.S. Life-Saving Service in 1915 to form the U.S. Coast Guard.

BROTHERS-IN-ARMS

Marines and Coast Guardsmen can share in some of the greatest tales of heroism and sacrifice from all of the armed conflicts of our nation's history. Perhaps the best depiction of Coast Guardsmen and Marines fighting side-by-side against a common enemy was during the turbulent days of World War II.

World War II, spanning from 1939 to 1945, was a worldwide conflict the likes of which the modern world had never seen. The conflict waged between the Allied and Axis Powers in the Mediterranean Sea and the Indian, Atlantic and Pacific Oceans. No less than 56 countries were involved in air, land and sea battles in Europe, the Soviet Union, North Africa and Asia's Far East.

According to news anchor Tom Brokaw, Americans who came of age during the Great Depression and fought for our country during World War II are the "Greatest Generation." Brokaw coined the phrase in his 1998 book of the same name.

With experience navigating small vessels in heavy surf, Coast Guard coxswains manned landing craft during the amphibious operations of World War II, delivering Soldiers and Marines to the beaches in both the Atlantic and Pacific theaters. Coast Guard crews also escorted convoys, transported troops and supplies, conducted port security operations and hunted enemy submarines.

THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE

Guadalcanal, a small island in the Solomon Islands, would be the scene of a major turning-point in the war in the Pacific. Under Japanese control, the island was chosen as the location of the first large-scale assault of a Japanese-held island.

On Sept. 27, 1942, about a month into the Guadalcanal Campaign, about 500 Marines of Lt. Col. Lewis B. "Chesty" Puller's 1st Battalion, 7th Marines were huddled on the beaches of the Matanikau River awaiting extraction from the island. Petty Officer 1st Class Douglas Munro, coxswain of a 36-foot Higgins boat, was officer-in-charge of a dozen craft from Lunga Point Base arriving to extract the Marines.

Suddenly, Japanese forces began firing intensely from a ridge about 500 yards from the beach. Steering his boat between the Marines and the Japanese forces, Munro provided cover for the landing craft, allowing the safe evacuation of all the Marines, including 25 wounded.

Once all the Marines were safely extracted, Munro and his crewman maneuvered their boat to leave. It was then that Munro was struck by enemy fire and killed instantly. Munro was posthumously awarded the country's highest honor- the Congressional Medal of Honor. He remains the only Coast Guardsman to receive the medal.

The Coast Guard also engaged in transport and escort duties for Marine forces invading the islands of Guam, Tinian, Saipan, Okinawa and the Philippines.

As brothers-in-arms during the amphibious assaults and invasions of World War II's battle for the Pacific, the Coast Guard and Marine Corps each showed why they are considered the best in the world at what they do. It's been nearly two-and-a-half centuries since history saw the birth of the Marine Corps and the Coast Guard. From the turbulent first days of our country through the first and second world wars to today's global war on terrorism, the armed forces of the United States, including the Marine Corps and the Coast Guard, will continue to answer the call to service.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 15 Oct 2008, 11:03
by Randyman
raylawpc wrote:
Randyman wrote:
raylawpc wrote:Randy, your son joins an elite company. Jack Dempsey was a Coastie in WWII - so was my Dad!!
I'm glad you said that Tom. The Coast Guard gets the least amount of press and attention of all the Military branches. At the time he went in, I had no idea that they traveled the world. The have jurisdiction in a way no other branch does. My son had been on the USCGC Mellon for a few years and had literally been around the world. When he found out the USCGC Midgett was going to Iraq he requested a transfer and went to Iraq. He was training Military Police from some of the military from various countries in the Gulf area. I'm not sure which countries. They taught self defense, arrest techniques, etc. He saved the lives of three ship mates.

I was aware of Dempsey being in the Coast Guard. In one of the buildings in the Cape May Boot Camp facilities in New Jersey there is a tribute and recognition of Dempsey's service. Kudos to your Dad for his service. I was in the Navy myself.
My Grandpa had no idea that Coasties travel the world either.

My Dad was born in 1927, which made him too young to participate in WWII without parental permission. He kept bugging my grandparents to let him join so that he could serve his country before the war was over. Finally, Grandpa relented, but only if Dad would join the Coast Guard. Grandpa figured they "guarded the coast," and my Dad would be in real danger only if the Japanese invaded California.

Well, the next thing my Grandpa knew, Dad was through bootcamp (where Lou Ambers was his self-defense instructor), out of engineering school, and onto an LST in the middle of the Pacific. My Dad's LST followed the Marines onto Pacific islands after the Marines established a beachhead, but were still engaged in fighting the Japanese. The job of the LSTs was to deliver the Marines' heavy equipment such as tanks, jeeps, etc. The Japanese would try to target the LSTs with canon file when the LSTs brought in the materials. Dad also had to deal with Kamakazi planes hitting ships, and saw two ships right next to his get struck by Kamakazis.

So such for "guarding the coast."
Your Dad sounds like one tough hombre! Check out the article.