Posted: 09 Aug 2007, 12:13
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Posted: 09 Aug 2007, 12:16
That one lasted until the 60s...~ MIKEE ~ wrote:
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1963-12-07 - Joey Giardello (1609.2) - PTS - Dick Tiger (5991.2) @ [4382.0] Middleweight
Posted: 09 Aug 2007, 12:51
Biggest Heavyweight Upset of All-Time
2/15/78 - Leon Spinks SD Muhammad Ali
2/15/78 - Leon Spinks SD Muhammad Ali
Posted: 09 Aug 2007, 16:53
02-11-90 Buster Douglas KO 10 Mike Tyson
Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the rat
Posted: 10 Aug 2007, 09:57
.JohnShep wrote:A full explanation of the ratings can be found here http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.php/B ... escription
Posted: 11 Aug 2007, 23:40
Its ashame HeadBasher didnt play PDL/Bautista.. he woulda hit dead-on with KO1.
Posted: 16 Aug 2007, 07:44
still there mate, use the drop down button next to active, and select 'all'Cobwebcat wrote:I take it the all time rating values aren't coming back. Shame, I liked them!
Posted: 16 Aug 2007, 12:22
... they will be back, BoxRec V3 absorbs more work than anybody exspected ...Cobwebcat wrote:I take it the all time rating values aren't coming back. Shame, I liked them!
Posted: 22 Aug 2007, 17:47
Some big names are gonna take an "opposition quality" penalty in the next week or two.
Shane Mosley - this weekend
Joe Calzaghe - next weekend
Chris John - next weekend
John's is gonna be huge.
All probably rightfully so... Can't wait to hear the Brits complain if Calzaghe falls below Kessler :)
Shane Mosley - this weekend
Joe Calzaghe - next weekend
Chris John - next weekend
John's is gonna be huge.
All probably rightfully so... Can't wait to hear the Brits complain if Calzaghe falls below Kessler :)
Posted: 25 Sep 2007, 09:51
Ratings shuffle?
Old version then New version then old version again?
Old version then New version then old version again?
Posted: 25 Sep 2007, 11:06
Joppy got a hell of a boost.
Posted: 25 Sep 2007, 11:22
New Release:
- division move-up and down controlled by maximum achieved rating in division
- use maximum of opponents' divisions for bout division, where no bout division available - but changes boxers divisions only, when bout division available
Especially moving down in weight not automatically means a better rating.
This has some impact to the Current Ratings and to the All Time Ratings.
- division move-up and down controlled by maximum achieved rating in division
- use maximum of opponents' divisions for bout division, where no bout division available - but changes boxers divisions only, when bout division available
Especially moving down in weight not automatically means a better rating.
This has some impact to the Current Ratings and to the All Time Ratings.
Posted: 25 Sep 2007, 11:33
Looks somehow funny - will log his rating this weekend.JCS wrote:Joppy got a hell of a boost.
Posted: 25 Sep 2007, 11:42
I will see if I can log that and post here.computerrank wrote:Looks somehow funny - will log his rating this weekend.JCS wrote:Joppy got a hell of a boost.
Posted: 25 Sep 2007, 12:08
For some reason, Joppy was given points before the McClendon bout. Division related?
I am trying to run this again with bout division but test server is acting strange.
I am trying to run this again with bout division but test server is acting strange.
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(4995) 1993-02-26 - Joppy 9 W UD Tennet 17
(4995) 1993-04-30 - Joppy 19 WTKO Ruffin 0
(4995) 1993-05-12 - Joppy 32 WTKO Martin 0
(4995) 1993-06-18 - Joppy 36 W KO Tisdale 0
(4995) 1993-08-13 - Joppy 38 W KO Taylor 23
(4995) 1993-09-25 - Joppy 53 W KO Teague 11
(4995) 1993-10-21 - Joppy 55 W KO Haywood 25
(4995) 1994-01-07 - Joppy 62 WTKO Taylor 65
(4995) 1994-02-17 - Joppy 110 W KO Harris 0
(4995) 1994-02-27 - Joppy 110 WTKO McCrimmion 74
(4995) 1994-04-08 - Joppy 138 W KO Parker 6
(4995) 1994-04-14 - Joppy 138 WTKO Shabazz 3
(4995) 1994-05-13 - Joppy 138 WTKO Sullivan 31
(4995) 1994-06-15 - Joppy 138 WPTS Christie 39
(4995) 1994-07-30 - Joppy 139 W KO Hernandez 29
(4995) 1994-08-13 - Joppy 139 WPTS Evans 65
(4995) 1994-09-20 - Joppy 149 W KO Cartrell 1
(4995) 1995-03-01 - Joppy 149 W KO McCrimmion 40
(4995) 1995-04-29 - Joppy 150 WPTS Velasquez 38
(4995) 1995-09-16 - Joppy 147 DRAW Toney 154
(4995) 1995-12-07 - Joppy 149 W KO Figueroa 25
(4995) 1996-02-10 - Joppy 149 W KO Boone 60
(4995) 1996-06-24 - Joppy 160 WTKO Takehara 733
(4995) 1996-10-19 - Joppy 538 WTKO McElroy 100
(4995) 1997-05-10 - Joppy 538 W UD Venancio 448
(4995) 1997-08-23 - Green 217 W UD Joppy 571
(4995) 1998-01-31 - Joppy 398 W UD Green 421
(4995) 1998-08-28 - Joppy 552 WTKO Duran 432
(4995) 1999-07-24 - Joppy 575 WTKO Pitt 57
(4995) 1999-09-24 - Joppy 687 WTKO Green 356
(4995) 2000-03-03 - Joppy 700 W UD Zuniga 256
(4995) 2000-05-20 - Joppy 772 WTKO Ruvalcaba 410
(4995) 2000-09-16 - Joppy 846 W UD Cherifi 487
(4995) 2000-12-02 - Joppy 973 WTKO Reid 116
(4995) 2001-05-12 - Trinidad 1996 WTKO Joppy 973
(4995) 2001-11-17 - Joppy 755 W MD Eastman 491
(4995) 2002-10-10 - Joppy 743 WTKO Hozumi 274
(4995) 2003-12-13 - Hopkins 1406 W UD Joppy 666
(4995) 2004-12-04 - Taylor 455 W UD Joppy 522
(4995) 2005-07-29 - Joppy 334 WTKO Blackburn 34
(4995) 2006-01-07 - Joppy 334 WTKO Howard 28
(4995) 2006-07-08 - Joppy 201 W KO Corn 25
(4995) 2007-04-27 - Joppy 284 WRTD McClendon 15
Posted: 25 Sep 2007, 12:27
Yes -division related -JCS wrote:For some reason, Joppy was given points before the McClendon bout. Division related?
I am trying to run this again with bout division but test server is acting strange.
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... (4995) 2005-07-29 - Joppy 334 WTKO Blackburn 34 (4995) 2006-01-07 - Joppy 334 WTKO Howard 28 (4995) 2006-07-08 - Joppy 201 W KO Corn 25 (4995) 2007-04-27 - Joppy 284 WRTD McClendon 15
- bout against Corn was assigned to Cruiserweight
- bout against McClendon was assigned to Super Middleweight - and Joppy had a high rating in Super Middleweight before - so the rating could go up when descending the divisions
Posted: 25 Sep 2007, 12:33
So multiple ratings can be stored for boxers at different divisions? This makes sense. Boxers are no longer double punished for taking tuneup bouts at higher divisions.computerrank wrote:Yes -division related -JCS wrote:For some reason, Joppy was given points before the McClendon bout. Division related?
I am trying to run this again with bout division but test server is acting strange.
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... (4995) 2005-07-29 - Joppy 334 WTKO Blackburn 34 (4995) 2006-01-07 - Joppy 334 WTKO Howard 28 (4995) 2006-07-08 - Joppy 201 W KO Corn 25 (4995) 2007-04-27 - Joppy 284 WRTD McClendon 15
- bout against Corn was assigned to Cruiserweight
- bout against McClendon was assigned to Super Middleweight - and Joppy had a high rating in Super Middleweight before - so the rating could go up when descending the divisions
How are inactivity and opposition quality penalties handled? At time of penalty all division ratings are penalized?
Posted: 25 Sep 2007, 12:36
A bit of research turns up that this was in fact at least a Light Heavyweight bout.
Joppy weighed 179.5, McClendon weighed 175.
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Joppy weighed 179.5, McClendon weighed 175.
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Posted: 25 Sep 2007, 12:48
Martin does this look normal??
Notice in the last two bouts, points were the same for Super Middle & Light Heavy. Is that just a coincidence?
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(4995) 1999-07-24 - Joppy 575 WTKO Pitt 57 @ Light Heavyweight
(4995) 1999-09-24 - Joppy 687 WTKO Green 356 @ Middleweight
(4995) 2000-03-03 - Joppy 700 W UD Zuniga 256 @ Super Middleweight
(4995) 2000-05-20 - Joppy 772 WTKO Ruvalcaba 410 @ Middleweight
(4995) 2000-09-16 - Joppy 846 W UD Cherifi 487 @ Middleweight
(4995) 2000-12-02 - Joppy 973 WTKO Reid 116 @ Middleweight
(4995) 2001-05-12 - Trinidad 1996 WTKO Joppy 973 @ Middleweight
(4995) 2001-11-17 - Joppy 755 W MD Eastman 491 @ Middleweight
(4995) 2002-10-10 - Joppy 743 WTKO Hozumi 274 @ Middleweight
(4995) 2003-12-13 - Hopkins 1406 W UD Joppy 666 @ Middleweight
(4995) 2004-12-04 - Taylor 455 W UD Joppy 522 @ Middleweight
(4995) 2005-07-29 - Joppy 334 WTKO Blackburn 34 @ Super Middleweight
(4995) 2006-01-07 - Joppy 334 WTKO Howard 28 @ Light Heavyweight
Posted: 25 Sep 2007, 12:48
The mechanism is - the boxer has a:JCS wrote: How are inactivity and opposition quality penalties handled? At time of penalty all division ratings are penalized?
- current rating
- a move up limit, set before his last move down
- a move down limit, set before his last move up
- moving up, the boxer can keep his current rating, but cut by his move up limit
- moving down, the boxer can increase his current rating weighted by the square ratio of division weight limits, but cut by his move down limit
- penalties have no impact to the limits - but should be considered perhaps
Posted: 25 Sep 2007, 13:04
... he had a high limit in Light Heavyweight before ...JCS wrote:Martin does this look normal??
Notice in the last two bouts, points were the same for Super Middle & Light Heavy. Is that just a coincidence?Code: Select all
(4995) 1999-07-24 - Joppy 575 WTKO Pitt 57 @ Light Heavyweight (4995) 1999-09-24 - Joppy 687 WTKO Green 356 @ Middleweight (4995) 2000-03-03 - Joppy 700 W UD Zuniga 256 @ Super Middleweight (4995) 2000-05-20 - Joppy 772 WTKO Ruvalcaba 410 @ Middleweight (4995) 2000-09-16 - Joppy 846 W UD Cherifi 487 @ Middleweight (4995) 2000-12-02 - Joppy 973 WTKO Reid 116 @ Middleweight (4995) 2001-05-12 - Trinidad 1996 WTKO Joppy 973 @ Middleweight (4995) 2001-11-17 - Joppy 755 W MD Eastman 491 @ Middleweight (4995) 2002-10-10 - Joppy 743 WTKO Hozumi 274 @ Middleweight (4995) 2003-12-13 - Hopkins 1406 W UD Joppy 666 @ Middleweight (4995) 2004-12-04 - Taylor 455 W UD Joppy 522 @ Middleweight (4995) 2005-07-29 - Joppy 334 WTKO Blackburn 34 @ Super Middleweight (4995) 2006-01-07 - Joppy 334 WTKO Howard 28 @ Light Heavyweight
... I now think, I should not hold forever in doubt ...
Posted: 25 Sep 2007, 13:12
I think limits should be penalized or reduced using some method.computerrank wrote:... he had a high limit in Light Heavyweight before ...JCS wrote:Martin does this look normal??
Notice in the last two bouts, points were the same for Super Middle & Light Heavy. Is that just a coincidence?Code: Select all
(4995) 1999-07-24 - Joppy 575 WTKO Pitt 57 @ Light Heavyweight (4995) 1999-09-24 - Joppy 687 WTKO Green 356 @ Middleweight (4995) 2000-03-03 - Joppy 700 W UD Zuniga 256 @ Super Middleweight (4995) 2000-05-20 - Joppy 772 WTKO Ruvalcaba 410 @ Middleweight (4995) 2000-09-16 - Joppy 846 W UD Cherifi 487 @ Middleweight (4995) 2000-12-02 - Joppy 973 WTKO Reid 116 @ Middleweight (4995) 2001-05-12 - Trinidad 1996 WTKO Joppy 973 @ Middleweight (4995) 2001-11-17 - Joppy 755 W MD Eastman 491 @ Middleweight (4995) 2002-10-10 - Joppy 743 WTKO Hozumi 274 @ Middleweight (4995) 2003-12-13 - Hopkins 1406 W UD Joppy 666 @ Middleweight (4995) 2004-12-04 - Taylor 455 W UD Joppy 522 @ Middleweight (4995) 2005-07-29 - Joppy 334 WTKO Blackburn 34 @ Super Middleweight (4995) 2006-01-07 - Joppy 334 WTKO Howard 28 @ Light Heavyweight
... I now think, I should not hold forever in doubt ...
Posted: 25 Sep 2007, 13:29
Thanks for your support!JCS wrote: ....
I think limits should be penalized or reduced using some method.
Posted: 25 Sep 2007, 13:31
computerrank wrote:Thanks for your support!JCS wrote: ....
I think limits should be penalized or reduced using some method.
Posted: 25 Sep 2007, 14:40
Do this have to do with anomalies I noticed this morning? I changed the weight classes of a few South African fighters and guys were being ranked behind fighters they had just beaten.
For example, Gideon Buthelezi at minimumweight - I dropped him from Light Fly, yet he is still nine points behind Thobani Mbangani, who he beat last month. I saw at least one more like this.
For example, Gideon Buthelezi at minimumweight - I dropped him from Light Fly, yet he is still nine points behind Thobani Mbangani, who he beat last month. I saw at least one more like this.