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hopefully duddy will get a ko!if he does he should get a crack at pavlik at the end of the year. wat do you tink sligobhoy??

John needs to fight a live opponant not a 18-7 stiff, Kelly would be to much of a jump in class but get him against Geale or Sturm to build up nicely

failedairman wrote:John needs to fight a live opponant not a 18-7 stiff, Kelly would be to much of a jump in class but get him against Geale or Sturm to build up nicely

Agree 100% i think he must get in with either manferdo or chavez jr next.

He needs to change his style in the way Gatti did, if he does and with some good management he could win a world title.

Duddy gets hit too much. Sturm would box rings around him.

A geriatric Eastman gave him terrible problems.

Why dont they get that Javier "I'm a 103 years old" Castillo (sp) who won a title a year or so ago.

Why doesn't he lose 3 pounds and fight me for the European/WBC eliminator?? What do you guy's think?

Now thats a proper fight.

Buts its so obvious that Pavlik v Duddy is the end game, then Lee......

Mooresy wrote:Why doesn't he lose 3 pounds and fight me for the European/WBC eliminator?? What do you guy's think?

Because Duddy's team are gonna hold out for a big payday against someone like pavlik in my opinion. I think there a lot of fighters who would beat him with that non-existant defense, including you. His team are not gonna take the risk.

Mooresy wrote:Why doesn't he lose 3 pounds and fight me for the European/WBC eliminator?? What do you guy's think?

something tells me his team won't be rushing to do that

I like Duddy. Nice guy, good honest pro...however....Just my opinion but when I hear some of the names being mentioned I struggle to pick Duddy in any of them :surprised:

Sturm would keep it long and outbox him, as probably would the classy Geale, who possesses a quality jab and left hook. Castillejo seems a viable proposition after being KO'd by Sylvester and is perhaps (finally, at 40!) on the decline, but he's still immensly strong and pretty durable.

As for Kelly Pavlik - would it even be close? Jamie Moore I would fancy too if the too met.

Billy Lyell is a decent keep busy foe but Duddy is currently fighting below the European level radar in this fight and also the one with Vanda.

Mooresy wrote:Why doesn't he lose 3 pounds and fight me for the European/WBC eliminator?? What do you guy's think?

That'd be the ideal situation but it seems Duddy and his (potential)new promoter Bob Arum would prefer a fight with Kelly Pavlik.
Although Duddy's trainer Pat Burns would prefer the 154lb route.

However with Bob Arum promoting Julio Cesar Chavez jnr, I reckon a fight with him would be more likely if he moved down.
I doubt Arum would even be aware that a fight between yourself and Duddy could do 10,000-15,000 in Ireland, that'd be the end of shitty leisure centres too if you could win that.

Hopefully John looks good tonight, continues to show improvement in his boxing, doesn't needlessly go to war, doesn't pick up a cut and as a bonus stopping Lyell would be great.
I wish the opponent was a bit better, but on the bright side at least Duddy is being kept active, and weighing in comfortably at 157 he's showing he can make 154 lbs, which is where he should be fighting imo.

Mooresy wrote:Why doesn't he lose 3 pounds and fight me for the European/WBC eliminator?? What do you guy's think?

cos you'd probably take him to pieces

He should fight Julio Cesar Chavez jr as that would be a step up and closer to Pavliks level but i still think Pav will have to much for Duddy

DavidPayne wrote:Duddy gets hit too much. Sturm would box rings around him.

A geriatric Eastman gave him terrible problems.

serious question, when is that last time you saw him fight?

sligobhoy67 wrote:

DavidPayne wrote:Duddy gets hit too much. Sturm would box rings around him.

A geriatric Eastman gave him terrible problems.

serious question, when is that last time you saw him fight?

Just about to say the same thing he has made great improvments in his last two fights with burns , although not sure about pavlik, was burns training taylor when he fought pav?

Terry D wrote:In Duddy's last fight it was all about getting hit, and he got hit often by trying not to get hit! With that said Sturm is absolutely shite, he really is, never say never.

That's simply untrue, for 9 rounds Vanda barely layed a glove on him and Duddy boxed really well, comfortably dealing with Vanda(who Julio Cesar Chavez Jnr had hell with in their first fight), in the corner before the 10th round Burns told Duddy to step it up and he abandoned his boxing style and went back to being a brawler. It didn't work so well and Duddy took a bit of a hammering in the 10th round. Now in that round he did take plenty of shots, however that was the only round where he was allowed to go back to the old way.

When he boxed and tried to avoid getting hit, he didn't get hit. If anything that 10th round will have done him good just to show him he should stay boxing and not brawling, because when he brawls the quality of fighter he is goes down 2 levels.

Duddy lost tonight ffs by a bum , maybe mooresy will have a fight at lmw as i think duddy had lost cred in america , he may come home .

failedairman wrote:John needs to fight a live opponant not a 18-7 stiff

Imagine what a live opponent would have done to Duddy

It suprises me how highly ranked John Duddy is within the Governing bodies , internet sites , and Boxing mags for the level of opposition he has beaten.
Mathew Macklin should be ranked higher is a better fighter and has beaten better opposition.

alexpaterson wrote:He should fight Julio Cesar Chavez jr as that would be a step up and closer to Pavliks level but i still think Pav will have to much for Duddy

You think Pavlik would be too much for Duddy? Jeez, I think Duddy wouldn't be able to last the distance even if it scheduled for three rounds.

failedairman wrote:John needs to fight a live opponant not a 18-7 stiff, Kelly would be to much of a jump in class but get him against Geale or Sturm to build up nicely

Do you know the result?

TJAY wrote:It suprises me how highly ranked John Duddy is within the Governing bodies , internet sites , and Boxing mags for the level of opposition he has beaten.
Mathew Macklin should be ranked higher is a better fighter and has beaten better opposition.

He brings $$$$!

Thats all.

Decent clubfighter, imo.