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Jamie Moore V Roman Dzuman- for a TITLE?
Posted: 01 May 2009, 12:32
by whicker
No disrespect to Jamie Moore himself, but how was this fight sanctioned?
Dzuman has lost his last two by KO, against good opposition, it should be added.
Before that a draw and a loss, again against what appears to be decent enough opponets.
But still...
For crying out loud HOW is he justified as a challenger for the main European title.
His last fight was a loss challenging for a regional variant of the title.
Crazy.
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Re: Jamie Moore V Roman Dzuman- for a TITLE?
Posted: 01 May 2009, 12:40
by jonny
[quote="whicker"]No disrespect to Jamie Moore himself, but how was this fight sanctioned?
Dzuman has lost his last two by KO, against good opposition, it should be added.
Before that a draw and a loss, again against what appears to be decent enough opponets.
But still...
For crying out loud HOW is he justified as a challenger for the main European title.
His last fight was a loss challenging for a regional variant of the title.
Crazy.
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Yeah my thoughts exactly
Re: Jamie Moore V Roman Dzuman- for a TITLE?
Posted: 01 May 2009, 12:45
by alexpaterson
Thats poor makes you think maybe Rhodes is ready for a European title shot
Re: Jamie Moore V Roman Dzuman- for a TITLE?
Posted: 01 May 2009, 13:07
by Autobarn
hasn't dzuman fougth for the EBU before? maybe that's why
Re: Jamie Moore V Roman Dzuman- for a TITLE?
Posted: 01 May 2009, 13:48
by BigEars
It's not any worse than Nettey fighting for the Commonwealth title is it ?
Re: Jamie Moore V Roman Dzuman- for a TITLE?
Posted: 01 May 2009, 13:50
by Matt Teague
what channel is this fight on ? i assume its before the hatton fight but surely cant be a ppv
Re: Jamie Moore V Roman Dzuman- for a TITLE?
Posted: 01 May 2009, 14:31
by whicker
Autobarn wrote:hasn't dzuman fougth for the EBU before? maybe that's why
Surely, if anything , being alllowed to fight again for a title after you have been knocked out in a previous challenge for it makes it worse ?
As for being no worse that Nettey as an opponent for the Commonwealth, well, thats not exactly a proper title any more , is it?
Re: Jamie Moore V Roman Dzuman- for a TITLE?
Posted: 01 May 2009, 15:10
by Wales
jamie gets a non-mandatory though doesnt he? Least he aint taking 8 months out to enjoy his time as champ
Re: Jamie Moore V Roman Dzuman- for a TITLE?
Posted: 01 May 2009, 19:30
by iwz678
I think this was just one of those easy defences, make a quick buck, get some decent exposure with it being on Box Office and retain the title.
I cant see Dzuman causing Jamie many problems, could go eight rounds at the most in my opinion.
Re: Jamie Moore V Roman Dzuman- for a TITLE?
Posted: 02 May 2009, 04:12
by whicker
Terry D wrote:Keep bust fight. Dzuman has mixed in good company, and Moore needs to keep active, the fight made itself.
Fair enough, a keep busy fight- It would be a decent enough bout as a non title 8 rounder, but a mockery of the concept of "defending the title of Champion of Europe."
Re: Jamie Moore V Roman Dzuman- for a TITLE?
Posted: 02 May 2009, 05:18
by Autobarn
well, would you rather get more money and recognition for a title fight
or considerably less of each for a non title 8-rounder?
also won't it help the sky ppv, ie certain # of title fights in UK leg og PPV
Re: Jamie Moore V Roman Dzuman- for a TITLE?
Posted: 02 May 2009, 05:30
by whicker
Autobarn wrote:well, would you rather get more money and recognition for a title fight
or considerably less of each for a non title 8-rounder?
also won't it help the sky ppv, ie certain # of title fights in UK leg og PPV
I'm sure the boxers, promoters and TV, are all happy with this being a European title fight.
It's just yet another bout that is contributing to the devaluing of titles. This is, after all, meant to be a competative title. Yet here we have an opponent who does not have a legitimate claim to be challenging for the title, and who, almost certainly, isn't going to win.
Re: Jamie Moore V Roman Dzuman- for a TITLE?
Posted: 02 May 2009, 20:34
by whicker
Point proven?
Good finish Jamie, and a strong performance.
But that opponent- was he even in shape?
European TITLE?
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Re: Jamie Moore V Roman Dzuman- for a TITLE?
Posted: 02 May 2009, 21:34
by DG.
It was a gimme!
After all the crap he has had with that knobhead pulling out 3 times, he is allowed 1 gimme?
Everybody, jus cool!
Its a payday and a 1st defence - a gimme..

Re: Jamie Moore V Roman Dzuman- for a TITLE?
Posted: 03 May 2009, 06:46
by whicker
DG. wrote:It was a gimme!
After all the crap he has had with that knobhead pulling out 3 times, he is allowed 1 gimme?
Everybody, jus cool!
Its a payday and a 1st defence - a gimme..

Yeah, I can't begrudge him a main event and a payday.
Now... lets move on! There ARE quality opponents and decent fights out there for Moore. Lets see them please!!!

Re: Jamie Moore V Roman Dzuman- for a TITLE?
Posted: 03 May 2009, 06:48
by Autobarn
DG. wrote:It was a gimme!
After all the crap he has had with that knobhead pulling out 3 times, he is allowed 1 gimme?
Everybody, jus cool!
Its a payday and a 1st defence - a gimme..

precisely.
Re: Jamie Moore V Roman Dzuman- for a TITLE?
Posted: 03 May 2009, 16:19
by BigEars
It wasn't as bad as accepting this guy for the European Featherweight title
http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hu ... &cat=boxer, and then after that they somehow wouldn't let Martin Rogan fight for the title, despite being ranked.............
Re: Jamie Moore V Roman Dzuman- for a TITLE?
Posted: 03 May 2009, 16:42
by steve689
I think Mooresy was due one of these type of fights. Good PPV exposure, Euro title defence and ranking solidifer plus a few bob to feed the wee ones

Re: Jamie Moore V Roman Dzuman- for a TITLE?
Posted: 03 May 2009, 16:43
by DG.
steve689 wrote:I think Mooresy was due one of these type of fights. Good PPV exposure, Euro title defence and ranking solidifer plus a few bob to feed the wee ones

Exactly!
Now for some big fights.
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Re: Jamie Moore V Roman Dzuman- for a TITLE?
Posted: 03 May 2009, 16:59
by caffrey
cracking body shot to finish proceedings though.
I hope moore-martinez for the wbc title is next
Re: Jamie Moore V Roman Dzuman- for a TITLE?
Posted: 03 May 2009, 17:15
by DG.
caffrey wrote:cracking body shot to finish proceedings though.
I hope moore-martinez for the wbc title is next
Agree, 4 years ago I would have said NO WAY re Martinez.
But Mooresy has come on and Martinez (especially after the Cintron fight ) is a very winnable fight.
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Re: Jamie Moore V Roman Dzuman- for a TITLE?
Posted: 04 May 2009, 02:18
by Mooresy
That's the one we're gunning for lads, revenge time for comin over here and beating 2 of our boys.

Re: Jamie Moore V Roman Dzuman- for a TITLE?
Posted: 04 May 2009, 03:06
by DG.
Mooresy wrote:That's the one we're gunning for lads, revenge time for comin over here and beating 2 of our boys.

Good, I am a friend of 'The Secret' and nothing would please me MOORE than seeing that git knocked out.

Re: Jamie Moore V Roman Dzuman- for a TITLE?
Posted: 04 May 2009, 06:57
by Poncey
Bloody good win for J-Mo. Now let's vacate that title and get you in with Martinez. Although I'd personally like to see him destroy Spinks.

Re: Jamie Moore V Roman Dzuman- for a TITLE?
Posted: 04 May 2009, 07:04
by DG.
Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:Bloody good win for J-Mo. Now let's vacate that title and get you in with Martinez. Although I'd personally like to see him destroy Spinks.

Let them get the fight signed and vacate when he steps in the Ring ( if he has to vacate?).
After all the nonsense with the other guy I think holding the title until the last minute is the way to go.
