BoxRec

Yes, my list will invariably get a lot of stick - it's to be expected on this forum unfortunately. So this thread isn't for nasty comments or petty retorts, but for constructive criticism. It folk who post in here would like to do their own list then that would be appreciated.

My list:

1# Manny Pacquiao
2# Juan Manuel Marquez
3# Bernard Hopkins
4# Shane Mosley
5# Wladimir Klitschko
6# Paul Williams
7# Miguel Cotto
8# Kelly Pavlik
9# Chris John
10# Vic Darchinyan

11# Edwin Valero
12# Isreal Vasquez
13# Vitali Klitschko
14# Arthur Abraham
15# Juanma Lopez

16# Celestine Cabellera
17# Tomasz Adamek
18# Mikkel Kessler
19# Chad Dawson
20# Ricky Hatton

Every list is subjective, so there is no right or wrong order. But like I have said, please refrain from critiquing my list in an unnecessary way. And feel free to add your own lists - that's if you're brave enough.

Don't usually do these but.....

1. Bernard Hopkins
2. Manny Pacquiao
3. Juan Manuel Marquez
4. Shane Mosley
5. Vic Darchinyan
6. Paul Williams
7. Israel Vazquez
8. Rafael Marquez
9. Celestine Cabellero
10. Miguel Cotto

Interesting that you have Hopkins at number one. If the rumours are true and Froch ends up fighting Hopkins next, and Froch actually manages to win, then I wonder where Froch would enter the list - top five, or more like top ten perhaps?

1# Manny Pacquiao
2# Juan Manuel Marquez
3# Bernard Hopkins
4# Shane Mosley
5# Paul Williams
6# Israel Vazquez
7# Rafael Marquez
8# Miguel Cotto
9# Vic Darchinyan
10# Juanma Lopez

6# Israel Vazquez
7# Rafael Marquez

9# Vic Darchinyan
10# Juanma Lopez


has anyone seen that many fights of these guy's??

My personal list, based on quite a few factors.

1. Mayweather
2. Hopkins
3. Pacman
4. Marquez
5. Williams
6. Joan Guzman
7. Haye
8. Dawson
9. Mosley
10. Wlad

hurlock wrote:6# Israel Vazquez
7# Rafael Marquez

9# Vic Darchinyan
10# Juanma Lopez


has anyone seen that many fights of these guy's??

I'm pretty sure most people have seen Juanmas last 4 fights (it only takes 10 minutes for three of them), and all the Vasquez-Marquez fights. I have, though I have only seen 2 Darchinyan fights (Arce and Mijares) they were both against top 25 P4P guys.

Dioufy wrote:Interesting that you have Hopkins at number one. If the rumours are true and Froch ends up fighting Hopkins next, and Froch actually manages to win, then I wonder where Froch would enter the list - top five, or more like top ten perhaps?

I have him at #1 because his last 4 opponents were all ranked within the top 10 P4P by the boxing "experts" with 3 of them favourites to beat him and he went 3-1 against them with the "1" being a loss that could have easily gone his way.

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:My personal list, based on quite a few factors.

1. Mayweather
2. Hopkins
3. Pacman
4. Marquez
5. Williams
6. Joan Guzman
7. Haye
8. Dawson
9. Mosley
10. Wlad

Not bad.

1. pacquiao
2. Marquez
3. Hopkins
4. Williams
5. Mosely
6. Cotto
7. Cauldran
8.Darchinyan
9. Guzman
10. Haye

Mayweather wont be in till he fights

I can't believe how many people have Paul Williams above Chad Dawson. Dawson has beaten Adamek, Johnson and Tarver. He doesn't get nearly enough credit for that.

1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Jaun Manuel Marquez
3. Bernard Hopkins
4. Chad Dawson
5. Miguel Cotto
6. Shane Mosley
7. Paul Williams
8. Vic Darchinyan
9. Israel Vasquez
10. Nonito Donaire

1. Pacquiao
2. JM Marquez
3. Vasquez
4. R Marquez
5. Hopkins
6. Calderon
7. Williams
8. Darchinyan
9. Mosley
10. Cotto

Terry D wrote:

• 1: A bunch of sprouts
  2: A Minnie Mouse t-shirt
  3:A day trip to Margate
  4: Richard 'The Secret' Williams
  5: A battered copy of The Second Sex

Richard Williams at #4? What has this guy EVER done to warrant a p4p top 10 ranking? Interesting you don't even have Sergio Martinez above him, a guy who comprehensively beat Williams.

banjo wrote:

Dioufy wrote:Interesting that you have Hopkins at number one. If the rumours are true and Froch ends up fighting Hopkins next, and Froch actually manages to win, then I wonder where Froch would enter the list - top five, or more like top ten perhaps?

I have him at #1 because his last 4 opponents were all ranked within the top 10 P4P by the boxing "experts" with 3 of them favourites to beat him and he went 3-1 against them with the "1" being a loss that could have easily gone his way.

Yeah, I can definitely see why you have Hopkins so high - he's amazingly good. Although, for me Pacquiao should be at 1# because he has stoppage wins over Morales (twice), Barerra, de la Hoya, Hatton and a very good win over Marquez, plus a draw.

I think John, Caballero and Donaire would have to be up there, but so few give them a ranking. It shows how much people's opinions are dominated by American boxing media perception.

Terry D wrote:

Riddick Blowe wrote:

Terry D wrote:

• 1: A bunch of sprouts
  2: A Minnie Mouse t-shirt
  3:A day trip to Margate
  4: Richard 'The Secret' Williams
  5: A battered copy of The Second Sex

Richard Williams at #4? What has this guy EVER done to warrant a p4p top 10 ranking? Interesting you don't even have Sergio Martinez above him, a guy who comprehensively beat Williams.

Ah, but Williams ALMOST went the distance with Howard Eastman, who was #1 on the list at the time. This is about 'what if', not 'what really happened'.

Plus, we all know Sprouts stunk out the joint vs tshirt who was fighting one-armed for most of the fight, swap those positions around and you have an argument, but Margate clearly threw the fight against Williams, that punch was a fresh air shot. Margate is a dive.

gobbles wrote:I think John, Caballero and Donaire would have to be up there, but so few give them a ranking. It shows how much people's opinions are dominated by American boxing media perception.

I feel John should be in everyone's top ten. In his last fight he got jobbed in Texas against Juarez - I had John winning that pretty comfortably 116-112. Yes, Juarez come on late in the fight, but for me, I think John won seven of the first eight rounds.

The whole lb 4 lb thing is mythical and depends what has been written and said about you.

Someone mentioned Chris John. Perhaps he would be much higher on most people's losts if he's had more American exposure. How many people have seen him fight apart from diehards?

[quote="ArtOfWar"]I can't believe how many people have Paul Williams above Chad Dawson. Dawson has beaten Adamek, Johnson and Tarver. He doesn't get nearly enough credit for that.

johnson was robbed simple,& if you dont think so it was far from convincing.

chris s wrote:The whole lb 4 lb thing is mythical and depends what has been written and said about you.

Someone mentioned Chris John. Perhaps he would be much higher on most people's losts if he's had more American exposure. How many people have seen him fight apart from diehards?

HE probably should be higher but he hasnt faced too many top dogs and I wasnt that impressed against him facing Juarez despite him being robbed he faded down the stretch. Reckon he deserved the nod over Marquez but wasnt paying too much attention to it with other things going on

1 flyod mayweather
2 juan manuel marquez
3 bernard hopkins
4 manny pacquai
5 shane mosley
6 cellistin cabelero
7 paul williams
8 israel vaszquez
9 ivan calderon
10 miguel cotto

hurlock wrote:

ArtOfWar wrote:I can't believe how many people have Paul Williams above Chad Dawson. Dawson has beaten Adamek, Johnson and Tarver. He doesn't get nearly enough credit for that.

johnson was robbed simple,& if you dont think so it was far from convincing.

Johnson wasn't robbed at all. It was a tough and close fight in which Dawson got the decision. No one get's an easy night against Johnson though, so it was a good win.

1 Manny Pacquiao

2 Juan Manuel Marquez
3 Bernard Hopkins
4 Israel Vasquez
5 Paul Williams

6 Shane Mosley
7 Vic Darchinyan
8 Nonito Donaire
9 Celestino Caballero
10 Ivan Calderon

11 Rafael Marquez
12 Miguel Cotto
13 Chad Dawson
14 Arthur Abraham
15 Juan Manuel Lopez

16 Chris John
17 David Haye
18 Mikkel Kessler
19 Kelly Pavlik
20 Vitaly Klitschko

Mayweather would be at #3 currently if he had not retired.

1) manny pac
2) floyd mayweather (he's back in cos he's fighting in july)
3) juan manuel marquez
4) bernard hopkins
5) shane mosley
6) miguel cotto
7) vic darchinyan
8) israel vazquez
9) paul williams
10) chad dawson

Feck, I can't believe David Haye's not in my top twenty - he's my favourite fighter, and deserves a place at twenty.