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who wins? Prime Kostya Tszyu or Manny Pacquaio
Posted: 06 May 2009, 15:08
by big lennox
I like Koysta in this fight -he had the punch to really hurt Manny p + could box on the back foot.
Re: who wins? Prime Kostya Tszyu or Manny Pacquaio
Posted: 06 May 2009, 16:21
by ALI
big lennox wrote:I like Koysta in this fight -he had the punch to really hurt Manny p + could box on the back foot.
Styles make fights and you can be sure Pacquio would not be blasting out Tyszu like he did Hatton. I would personally go for Tyszu by KO. Lets remember, Pacquio's chin is still unproven above 135lbs, because both De La Hoya and Hatton failed to land anything of note.
Re: who wins? Prime Kostya Tszyu or Manny Pacquaio
Posted: 06 May 2009, 18:29
by boxerbob
speed kills
manny by ko
Re: who wins? Prime Kostya Tszyu or Manny Pacquaio
Posted: 06 May 2009, 18:37
by banjo
Kostya with not much trouble.
Re: who wins? Prime Kostya Tszyu or Manny Pacquaio
Posted: 06 May 2009, 20:00
by Cannibal
Kostya was a few years too early. All the great match ups he could have today.
Re: who wins? Prime Kostya Tszyu or Manny Pacquaio
Posted: 06 May 2009, 21:28
by Phenomenal-Nutrition
Kostya's slower than Hatton and has a defense every bit as open. So Pacquaio would rain his shots on the Russian and outbox him early. Can he hurt Tyszu? Yes his power is proven with that Hatton KO and Judah, Hatton, Phillips all hurt Kostya. Tyszu can also hurt Pacquaio but he isn't going to land as much although he may time big right hands but Pacman has shown a much better chin and strength than the other southpaws Tyszu's smashed even if only at a lower weight. I see no reason why he won't be just as durable now he isnt weight drained just like hes shown better power at 140, he'll show a better chin too. Pacquaio also has better stamina, workrate and defense.
Pacquaio KO mid-late
Re: who wins? Prime Kostya Tszyu or Manny Pacquaio
Posted: 07 May 2009, 06:32
by clubberlang
Really tough fight to call because we still don’t know how good Mannys chin is at light welter, if its good then Manny wins because I feel he would be to quick for Kostya to counter effectively.
Re: who wins? Prime Kostya Tszyu or Manny Pacquaio
Posted: 07 May 2009, 06:42
by mike john
tszyu was not as open as hatton. his footspeed wasnt the greatest, but he did have fast hands, and his right was one of the best punches in the game, top notch power, speed, accuracy and timing. and manny can be hit. what a great fight. kostya tszyu mid ko
Re: who wins? Prime Kostya Tszyu or Manny Pacquaio
Posted: 07 May 2009, 06:55
by Bard of Boxrec
Manny wins. Tzsyu was good but kind of one paced and overrated IMO. I mean, he looked the business when he was on, but let's face it his best win was over Zab Judah. There were quite a few guys Tzsyu could have fought but didn't, and he ended up fighting guys like limited Ben Tackie or washed up James Leija who was never more than a titlist, washed up JCC etc. Oscar would have outboxed Tzsyu and I can't see him beating guys like Cotto either, unless his power caught up with Cotto. Mosely would have beaten him convincingly IMO and if Pac could stay away from the bombs he could have done the job too.
Re: who wins? Prime Kostya Tszyu or Manny Pacquaio
Posted: 07 May 2009, 06:58
by Carbo
Let's not forget that Tszyu loved -- just loved -- southpaws. That right cross was laser guided against lefties.
However, we also shouldn't forget that Judah was able to hit and hurt Tszyu in the first round. Tszyu also prefers runners and movers. Men who move away from him, where he can find his range comfortably. He doesn't like to be rushed. Pacquaio wouldn't let him settle, and wouldn't back away.
It's a tough call. Pacquaio, just. Maybe. Maybe it'd be up and down.
Re: who wins? Prime Kostya Tszyu or Manny Pacquaio
Posted: 07 May 2009, 07:32
by Autobarn
have to go with tszyu. one of the better 140-pound champs in history.
he ws very precise, very powerful, had a great brain. in fact i would pick tszyu to pick apart manny at 140 and i'd pick orzubek nazarov to beast him at 135
Re: who wins? Prime Kostya Tszyu or Manny Pacquaio
Posted: 07 May 2009, 08:42
by big lennox
For me, timing is the key, and Kostya had wonderful timing.I can Manny getting top side of it fro a while because of his foot and hand speed, but think Kostya might just have landed the big one.
Re: who wins? Prime Kostya Tszyu or Manny Pacquaio
Posted: 07 May 2009, 14:40
by allworld80
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Re: who wins? Prime Kostya Tszyu or Manny Pacquaio
Posted: 07 May 2009, 14:41
by Poncey
tzyuforever wrote:8)
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Re: who wins? Prime Kostya Tszyu or Manny Pacquaio
Posted: 07 May 2009, 15:33
by whiskey
Kostya,
That one, i would bet my bungalow on !
Re: who wins? Prime Kostya Tszyu or Manny Pacquaio
Posted: 07 May 2009, 16:13
by Phenomenal-Nutrition
Carbo wrote:Let's not forget that Tszyu loved -- just loved -- southpaws. That right cross was laser guided against lefties..
Yes but which southpaws?
Judah - or kid retard, Judah hurt him
Mitchell - C Class, never beat a top level fighter, Stevie Johnstaon beat him easy enough at LW, Mayweather/Williams beat him easy, Ndou got jobbed against him and he won a good few rounds in the first match
Hurtado - Hurtado dropped him twice and hurt him too, Hurtado was also stopped in 1 by Vivian Harris. I do wonder if Whitaker ruined Hurtado, if you saw that fight you'll know what I mean, should have been stopped 10-12punches before it was. Hurtado was lying out cold against the ropes as Whitaker pummelled him
So you have to put a asterix on him 'loving' southpaws, bit of a myth imo.
Re: who wins? Prime Kostya Tszyu or Manny Pacquaio
Posted: 07 May 2009, 16:45
by Carbo
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:Carbo wrote:Let's not forget that Tszyu loved -- just loved -- southpaws. That right cross was laser guided against lefties..
Yes but which southpaws?
Judah - or kid retard, Judah hurt him
Mitchell - C Class, never beat a top level fighter, Stevie Johnstaon beat him easy enough at LW, Mayweather/Williams beat him easy, Ndou got jobbed against him and he won a good few rounds in the first match
Hurtado - Hurtado dropped him twice and hurt him too, Hurtado was also stopped in 1 by Vivian Harris. I do wonder if Whitaker ruined Hurtado, if you saw that fight you'll know what I mean, should have been stopped 10-12punches before it was. Hurtado was lying out cold against the ropes as Whitaker pummelled him
So you have to put a asterix on him 'loving' southpaws, bit of a myth imo.
Not sure P-N. He demolished them. He couldn't miss. OK, they weren't exactly Marvin Hagler, but, you know, he
couldn't miss. I remember his interview after Mitchell, and he said "as you know, I love these southpaws," and he had this look in his eye, like, "yeah, I know how to beat these left handed, devil's handwriting, creative side of the brain f^cks."
Re: who wins? Prime Kostya Tszyu or Manny Pacquaio
Posted: 07 May 2009, 16:51
by J
Re: who wins? Prime Kostya Tszyu or Manny Pacquaio
Posted: 07 May 2009, 16:55
by Carbo
Ha! I'm a lefty, too.
Write with my left, play tennis, squash, etc. with my left. Play cricket, golf etc with my right, throw with my right, and my right is stronger.
Bizarre.
Re: who wins? Prime Kostya Tszyu or Manny Pacquaio
Posted: 07 May 2009, 16:57
by J
im totally left handed til it comes to wanking.
then i need both hands.
ok ok thumbs.
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