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Hide gets WBC shot

Posted: 15 May 2009, 03:56
by Wales
Reportedly going to fight the winner of Fraggomeni & Wlodarczyk (who fight this weekend in Milan) after american Matt Godfrey refused to fight Hide in an eliminator in Germany. I believe its 10 years since he lost the WBO title to Vitali, at 37 Hides last chance.

Re: Hide gets WBC shot

Posted: 15 May 2009, 04:05
by fist
Well deserved shot IMO. He's been fighting regularly all over the place over the last few years, clocking up wins.

Re: Hide gets WBC shot

Posted: 15 May 2009, 04:11
by Wales
Whilst I agree he hasnt actually fought anyone of any real note.

Re: Hide gets WBC shot

Posted: 15 May 2009, 04:13
by fist
Wales wrote:Whilst I agree he hasnt actually fought anyone of any real note.
Well he's taken all types of matches in order to work up the ranks, perfectly reasonable career route.

Re: Hide gets WBC shot

Posted: 15 May 2009, 04:20
by Adamj1987
he deserves this fight and i belive he can beat both easily if he doesnt fall asleep in fights in the later rounds as sometimes he does

Re: Hide gets WBC shot

Posted: 15 May 2009, 04:21
by Poncey
Wales wrote:Whilst I agree he hasnt actually fought anyone of any real note.
Is there anyone of real note at 200 now apart from Tommy??

Re: Hide gets WBC shot

Posted: 15 May 2009, 04:25
by Bard of Boxrec
Well deserved? lol. As far as I can see, of late he's been beating the calibre of guys he has been flattening all his career. If this shot is coming off that win over Rudiger May, then i guess he's more deserving than some, although May never did anything.

Fragomeni is all wrong for him, he probably knows it, and I fully expect him to get KOed and retire. When was the last time Herbie beat a tough pug who never stops coming forward? Oh yeah, he's avoided them all his career. Cash out fight for herbie.

Re: Hide gets WBC shot

Posted: 15 May 2009, 04:29
by Wales
Well, his last 3 have been 12-9, 7-5 & 15-4. Cunningham, Huck, Floes, Godfrey, Arslan, Tokarev, Banks & Alexeev? COuple of them have recent losses, but any one would have given him a stern test. Or, how about anyone form WBC top 15!!

Interesting to see who number 15 is!!

1. Krzysztof Wlodarczyk (Poland)
2. Herbie Hide (GB) INTL
3. Marco Huck (Germany) EBU
4. Francisco Palacios (P. Rico)
5. Matt Godfrey (US) NABF
6. Grigory Drozd (Russia)
7. BJ Flores (US)
8. Rudolf Kraj (Czech)
9. Yoan Pablo Hernandez (Cuba)
10. Pawel Kolodziej (Poland)
11. Firat Arslan (Germany)
12. Vitaly Rusal (Ukraine)
13. Enad Licina (Serbia)
14. Troy Ross (Guyana) COMM
15. Bobby Gunn (US) USNBC

Re: Hide gets WBC shot

Posted: 15 May 2009, 04:34
by Bard of Boxrec
I would love to be a fly on the wall at a sanctioning body ranking conference.

Re: Hide gets WBC shot

Posted: 15 May 2009, 04:40
by Adamj1987
Wales wrote:Well, his last 3 have been 12-9, 7-5 & 15-4. Cunningham, Huck, Floes, Godfrey, Arslan, Tokarev, Banks & Alexeev? COuple of them have recent losses, but any one would have given him a stern test. Or, how about anyone form WBC top 15!!

Interesting to see who number 15 is!!

1. Krzysztof Wlodarczyk (Poland)
2. Herbie Hide (GB) INTL
3. Marco Huck (Germany) EBU
4. Francisco Palacios (P. Rico)
5. Matt Godfrey (US) NABF
6. Grigory Drozd (Russia)
7. BJ Flores (US)
8. Rudolf Kraj (Czech)
9. Yoan Pablo Hernandez (Cuba)
10. Pawel Kolodziej (Poland)
11. Firat Arslan (Germany)
12. Vitaly Rusal (Ukraine)
13. Enad Licina (Serbia)
14. Troy Ross (Guyana) COMM
15. Bobby Gunn (US) USNBC

exactly the point that needs to be made, herbie won the right for an eliminator its been postponed or the guy has changed a few times so he's ended up fighting bums to stay active and if bobby gunn can be seen to be top 15 material herbie should deffinatly be fighting for the title

Re: Hide gets WBC shot

Posted: 15 May 2009, 04:53
by McCannW14
fist wrote:Well deserved shot IMO. He's been fighting regularly all over the place over the last few years, clocking up wins.
Couldnt agree more. Always liked Herbie, terrific fighter with world class power and skills.

Would like to go over and support him.

Re: Hide gets WBC shot

Posted: 15 May 2009, 04:58
by forcefraser
Adamj1987 wrote:he deserves this fight and i belive he can beat both easily if he doesnt fall asleep in fights in the later rounds as sometimes he does
Fragomeni will be too much for Hide. He gave Haye a good run for his money and has proven himself since that fight. Tough, durable fighter. He will drag Hyde into the trenches and will not be bullied by him.

Re: Hide gets WBC shot

Posted: 15 May 2009, 05:07
by oliverfennell
I fell Fragomeni would be a more winnable fight for Herbie than Wlodarczyk.

Re: Hide gets WBC shot

Posted: 15 May 2009, 05:08
by Tommy Gunn13
Wales wrote:Reportedly going to fight the winner of Fraggomeni & Wlodarczyk (who fight this weekend in Milan) after american Matt Godfrey refused to fight Hide in an eliminator in Germany. I believe its 10 years since he lost the WBO title to Vitali, at 37 Hides last chance.
If hes on top form i can see Herbie beating either of these

Re: Hide gets WBC shot

Posted: 15 May 2009, 05:10
by Syntax Error
Wales wrote:Reportedly going to fight the winner of Fraggomeni & Wlodarczyk (who fight this weekend in Milan) after american Matt Godfrey refused to fight Hide in an eliminator in Germany. I believe its 10 years since he lost the WBO title to Vitali, at 37 Hides last chance.
I am a closet Herbie Hide fan.

I got into him by watching a lot of his early fights live & he´s the hardest puncher I´ve ever ´heard´live (& I´ve watched Lennox Lewis live :o )

He can be a bit of a nincompoop at times, but you cannot deny that he is exciting to watch: In fact, I can´t think of a boring Herbie Hide fight, as they´re either devastating blowouts, or they involve him polishing the canvass repeatedly with his shorts! :DD

Re: Hide gets WBC shot

Posted: 15 May 2009, 05:13
by Lenny
I don't think Hide beats either guy. The snap seems to have gone from his punches and the frailties will still be there once he takes a shot.

Plus Herbie, for all his offensive skills in his prime, has always been totally overrated. Would pick Afolabi over him any day of the week

Re: Hide gets WBC shot

Posted: 15 May 2009, 05:25
by WestEndRiot
I think Hide still has what it takes to beat either man, although equally i wouldn't be surprised if he was to get flattened by a random journeyman if he takes a tune up.

I'm also quite surprised Fragomeni is such a big betting favourite for the fight, i'll be going big on Wlodarczyk but he'll probably need a stoppage in Italy.

Re: Hide gets WBC shot

Posted: 15 May 2009, 06:33
by doctorboxing
Syntax Error wrote: He can be a bit of a nincompoop at times
A nincompoop :lol: :TU:

It must have been about 15 years since I last heard anyone call someone that.

Re: Hide gets WBC shot

Posted: 15 May 2009, 06:59
by Poncey
Riddick Blowe wrote:I would love to be a fly on the wall at a sanctioning body ranking conference.
Walls are padded at looney asylums.

Re: Hide gets WBC shot

Posted: 15 May 2009, 11:06
by alexpaterson
I cant see how he deserves it he's fought nobody's since his return would love to see him fight Enzo Mac before a title shot hope he does well though

Re: Hide gets WBC shot

Posted: 15 May 2009, 11:54
by Old bones Ian
Hide doesn't have the speed in his shots anymore, it looks like he's having to 'think' the punches to throw , instead of it coming naturally to him.

At his peak as a cruiser he hit as hard as Haye, but those days have gone.

One last payday for him though, I do like Herbie.

Re: Hide gets WBC shot

Posted: 15 May 2009, 12:53
by Coco
Wales wrote:Well, his last 3 have been 12-9, 7-5 & 15-4. Cunningham, Huck, Floes, Godfrey, Arslan, Tokarev, Banks & Alexeev? COuple of them have recent losses, but any one would have given him a stern test. Or, how about anyone form WBC top 15!!

Interesting to see who number 15 is!!

1. Krzysztof Wlodarczyk (Poland)
2. Herbie Hide (GB) INTL
3. Marco Huck (Germany) EBU
4. Francisco Palacios (P. Rico)
5. Matt Godfrey (US) NABF
6. Grigory Drozd (Russia)
7. BJ Flores (US)
8. Rudolf Kraj (Czech)
9. Yoan Pablo Hernandez (Cuba)
10. Pawel Kolodziej (Poland)
11. Firat Arslan (Germany)
12. Vitaly Rusal (Ukraine)
13. Enad Licina (Serbia)
14. Troy Ross (Guyana) COMM
15. Bobby Gunn (US) USNBC
Perhaps a Gunn v Macca rematch for the vacant belt!

Re: Hide gets WBC shot

Posted: 15 May 2009, 13:16
by Phenomenal-Nutrition
I reckon Herbie is past it but most of the crusers arent much cop anyway so he has a shot

Re: Hide gets WBC shot

Posted: 15 May 2009, 13:28
by brian13
Godfrey is fighting Adamek on the 10th of July in New Jersey.

Re: Hide gets WBC shot

Posted: 15 May 2009, 19:07
by Spud
Good News!!! it will be good to see Herbie in a high profile fight again!!