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David Tua v Oliver Mccall

Posted: 18 May 2009, 08:00
by Roco
In their respective primes who would you fancy?

Re: David Tua v Oliver Mccall

Posted: 18 May 2009, 21:04
by Robinson
Good question. I dont see Tua knocking McCall out in any way.
Tua though would be able ot up the pace and keep the pressure
on, the question is would McCall be able to keep up with a young
and peak Tua ?

I shall watch some McCall fights and come back to you on this
one.

Re: David Tua v Oliver Mccall

Posted: 18 May 2009, 21:17
by dempseyfire
Tua via a workmanlike decision.

Re: David Tua v Oliver Mccall

Posted: 18 May 2009, 21:23
by Robinson
Thats what I am thinking to. I can not think of McCall being
consistent enough to defeat Tua. I shall have to dig up some
fights soon.

Re: David Tua v Oliver Mccall

Posted: 22 May 2009, 03:17
by Roco
What if Mccall came in with some kind of ambition?

Re: David Tua v Oliver Mccall

Posted: 22 May 2009, 04:36
by gregor
I think it could be somewhat similar to Ike-Tua, although I am not sure who of them would've won.

Re: David Tua v Oliver Mccall

Posted: 22 May 2009, 12:28
by hhaehre
Roco wrote:What if Mccall came in with some kind of ambition?
Then he wouldn't be McCall now would he. Tua by wide ud

Re: David Tua v Oliver Mccall

Posted: 24 May 2009, 21:08
by BoxBuzz
According to some you should not account for personality or mental status, only skill level.

Does that help solve this one? I suppose you have to go with Tua, the stable guy who lost the close one to the mentally unstable Ibeabuchi.

But in some cases the guy who knows KARATE should be careful in the presence of the guy who knows KARAZOR, and even more cautious around the man who knows KARAZEE'.

Re: David Tua v Oliver Mccall

Posted: 24 May 2009, 22:26
by BroughtonRulesRefuge
BoxBuzz wrote:According to some you should not account for personality or mental status, only skill level.

Does that help solve this one? I suppose you have to go with Tua, the stable guy who lost the close one to the mentally unstable Ibeabuchi.
- Reportedly Ike never had any problems until after the Tua fight.

That's when his headaches, hallucinations, and bizarre criminal behaviour begins. In short, Tua ruined Ike and never gets enough credit for his role in delivering the goods in one of the most fastest most punishing fights ever.

Re: David Tua v Oliver Mccall

Posted: 24 May 2009, 23:37
by Robinson
One could also argue that after the Tua fight Ike's stock
went up, alot. And with that so did his ego.

With that perhaps Ike perhaps thought he was the man
before he ever really stepped into the real 'man' at the
time.

The hallucinations could be delusions of grandeur, the criminal
behaviour....well often to alot of bad guys, their only criminals
if they get caught.

Re: David Tua v Oliver Mccall

Posted: 25 May 2009, 01:40
by BoxBuzz
BroughtonRulesRefuge wrote:
BoxBuzz wrote:According to some you should not account for personality or mental status, only skill level.

Does that help solve this one? I suppose you have to go with Tua, the stable guy who lost the close one to the mentally unstable Ibeabuchi.
- Reportedly Ike never had any problems until after the Tua fight.

That's when his headaches, hallucinations, and bizarre criminal behaviour begins. In short, Tua ruined Ike and never gets enough credit for his role in delivering the goods in one of the most fastest most punishing fights ever.
Sort of adds up....these guys were going at it like it was the old days. Some of us thought Tua eeked it out.

Re: David Tua v Oliver Mccall

Posted: 25 May 2009, 23:36
by jmc617
BoxBuzz wrote: But in some cases the guy who knows KARATE should be careful in the presence of the guy who knows KARAZOR, and even more cautious around the man who knows KARAZEE'.

lol :lol:

Re: David Tua v Oliver Mccall

Posted: 24 Sep 2010, 03:39
by Roco
Neither have great boxing skills so would it not come down to who was the tougher man?