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Greater In Accomplishment Or Ability?
Posted: 21 Jun 2009, 19:44
by Goodnight, Irene
Name a fighter, & allow the next poster down the line to lay claim as to whether that boxer was more prominent in what they accomplished, or how much talent & ability they possessed.
Here we go...
Benny Leonard
Re: Greater In Accomplishment Or Ability?
Posted: 21 Jun 2009, 20:11
by Collins2000
Alan Sugar
End of thread.
Re: Greater In Accomplishment Or Ability?
Posted: 21 Jun 2009, 20:38
by BoxBuzz
...but is it.....really? Glad to see you got the message.
Re: Greater In Accomplishment Or Ability?
Posted: 21 Jun 2009, 20:39
by Robinson
Buzz
you could say that Collins' post was some what serious
as many in this here boxing community take the claims
of Mr Lipton as being very serious and very real.
Re: Greater In Accomplishment Or Ability?
Posted: 27 Jun 2009, 11:15
by allworld80
Goodnight, Irene wrote:Name a fighter, & allow the next poster down the line to lay claim as to whether that boxer was more prominent in what they accomplished, or how much talent & ability they possessed.
Here we go...
Benny Leonard
Accomplishment for sure.
Pernell Whitaker
Re: Greater In Accomplishment Or Ability?
Posted: 27 Jun 2009, 11:33
by hitman09
tzyuforever wrote:Goodnight, Irene wrote:Name a fighter, & allow the next poster down the line to lay claim as to whether that boxer was more prominent in what they accomplished, or how much talent & ability they possessed.
Here we go...
Benny Leonard
Accomplishment for sure.
Pernell Whitaker
I'd say ability.
Joe Calzaghe
Re: Greater In Accomplishment Or Ability?
Posted: 27 Jun 2009, 12:35
by Goodnight, Irene
Ability...but's a close-run thing.
Lennox Lewis...
Re: Greater In Accomplishment Or Ability?
Posted: 27 Jun 2009, 14:50
by p4p1
Goodnight, Irene wrote:Ability...but's a close-run thing.
Lennox Lewis...
accomplishment... cant acheive naymore as a HW than he did
Roberto Duran
Re: Greater In Accomplishment Or Ability?
Posted: 27 Jun 2009, 14:52
by banjo
p4p1 wrote:
accomplishment... cant acheive naymore as a HW than he did
Roberto Duran
Accomplishment
Daniel Zaragoza
Re: Greater In Accomplishment Or Ability?
Posted: 27 Jun 2009, 15:39
by mhagler91490
banjo wrote:p4p1 wrote:
accomplishment... cant acheive naymore as a HW than he did
Roberto Duran
Accomplishment
Daniel Zaragoza
Ability.
Ricardo Lopez
Re: Greater In Accomplishment Or Ability?
Posted: 27 Jun 2009, 21:45
by p4p1
mhagler91490 wrote:
Ability.
Ricardo Lopez
ability
Bernard Hopkins
Re: Greater In Accomplishment Or Ability?
Posted: 27 Jun 2009, 23:54
by mhagler91490
p4p1 wrote:mhagler91490 wrote:
Ability.
Ricardo Lopez
ability
Bernard Hopkins
Accomplishment
Jimmy Ellis
Re: Greater In Accomplishment Or Ability?
Posted: 28 Jun 2009, 09:14
by hitman09
Accomplishment
Tommy Hearns
Re: Greater In Accomplishment Or Ability?
Posted: 28 Jun 2009, 10:49
by p4p1
hitman09 wrote:Accomplishment
Tommy Hearns
accomplishment
Sam Langford
Re: Greater In Accomplishment Or Ability?
Posted: 28 Jun 2009, 17:05
by allworld80
Accomplishment
Oscar DLH
Re: Greater In Accomplishment Or Ability?
Posted: 28 Jun 2009, 18:17
by Goodnight, Irene
Now we're getting the ball rolling. Accomplishment for Oscar.
Tony Canzoneri...
Re: Greater In Accomplishment Or Ability?
Posted: 28 Jun 2009, 18:27
by mhagler91490
Goodnight, Irene wrote:Now we're getting the ball rolling. Accomplishment for Oscar.
Tony Canzoneri...
Accomplishment
Iran Barkley
Re: Greater In Accomplishment Or Ability?
Posted: 28 Jun 2009, 19:46
by hitman09
Ability. Great thread GI
Naseem Hamed
Re: Greater In Accomplishment Or Ability?
Posted: 28 Jun 2009, 19:57
by Goodnight, Irene
hitman09 wrote:Ability. Great thread GI
Naseem Hamed
Thank you. Accomplishment for Hamed, but his ability, though nothing fantastic, is going to become more & more under-estimated as the years pass. Good, not great, fighter, who is now thought of as a joke.
Jeff Harding...
Re: Greater In Accomplishment Or Ability?
Posted: 29 Jun 2009, 00:10
by p4p1
Goodnight, Irene wrote:hitman09 wrote:Ability. Great thread GI
Naseem Hamed
Thank you. Accomplishment for Hamed, but his ability, though nothing fantastic, is going to become more & more under-estimated as the years pass. Good, not great, fighter, who is now thought of as a joke.
Jeff Harding...
accomplishment
Jack Johnson
Re: Greater In Accomplishment Or Ability?
Posted: 29 Jun 2009, 00:20
by Goodnight, Irene
Tough one. I'll argue accomplishment.
Joel Casamayor...
Re: Greater In Accomplishment Or Ability?
Posted: 29 Jun 2009, 10:13
by Counter-puncher
Goodnight, Irene wrote:Tough one. I'll argue accomplishment.
Joel Casamayor...
another tough one ('great thread', he echoes.... )
very talented indeed, stellar ama record, makes it difficult to say his achievements as a pro quite matched his ability.
to an extent he 'overachieved' a little, later on, but close fights /losses/ disputable decisions with as many lesser-talented (IMO) fighters, as he had, makes Joel greater in
ABILITY
next:
Kevin Kelley. don't know why, he just came to mind
Re: Greater In Accomplishment Or Ability?
Posted: 29 Jun 2009, 12:06
by Flump
Counter-puncher wrote:Goodnight, Irene wrote:Tough one. I'll argue accomplishment.
Joel Casamayor...
another tough one ('great thread', he echoes.... )
very talented indeed, stellar ama record, makes it difficult to say his achievements as a pro quite matched his ability.
to an extent he 'overachieved' a little, later on, but close fights /losses/ disputable decisions with as many lesser-talented (IMO) fighters, as he had, makes Joel greater in
ABILITY
next:
Kevin Kelley. don't know why, he just came to mind
Ability
His accomplishments never quite matched his mouth. Always good value though.
Eddie Mustafa Muhammad
Re: Greater In Accomplishment Or Ability?
Posted: 29 Jun 2009, 15:56
by allworld80
Flump wrote:Eddie Mustafa Muhammad
Abilty, just barely
Wilfred Benitez
Re: Greater In Accomplishment Or Ability?
Posted: 29 Jun 2009, 15:59
by banjo
tzyuforever wrote:Flump wrote:Eddie Mustafa Muhammad
Abilty, just barely
Wilfred Benitez
Ability
Cornelius Boza Edwards