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ATG fighter's biggest/most important fight
Posted: 29 Jun 2009, 16:31
by bjermaine
in honor of my great friend irene i'll start a new topic where a fighter is named and in your opinion, list what the fighter's biggest/most important fight was and if they won or lost. for example, my fave fighter is roy jones and i think his biggest fight was when he beat ruiz at heavyweight. then i'll list another fighter for someone else to answer. i think we'll be surprised at how many greats lost their biggest fight. list the biggest fight for:
ray robinson
Re: ATG fighter's biggest/most important fight
Posted: 29 Jun 2009, 18:45
by BoxBuzz
Wow this one is hard to pick a single bout, but I'd say in sheer perception it would have been his comeback win to claim the MW title in his second dance with Bassilio.
From the sublime to the ridiculous now.....\
Sven Ottke......(I know I know just like SRR there are so many to choose from!!)
Re: ATG fighter's biggest/most important fight
Posted: 29 Jun 2009, 19:49
by bjermaine
BoxBuzz wrote:Wow this one is hard to pick a single bout, but I'd say in sheer perception it would have been his comeback win to claim the MW title in his second dance with Bassilio.
Do you think maybe his fight with Maxim?? You're right, lots of choices.
From the sublime to the ridiculous now.....\
Sven Ottke......(I know I know just like SRR there are so many to choose from!!)
Re: ATG fighter's biggest/most important fight
Posted: 29 Jun 2009, 19:59
by Expug
Charles Brewer is Otkes best win.
Next: Billy Petrolle
Re: ATG fighter's biggest/most important fight
Posted: 30 Jun 2009, 09:02
by Seamus
Robinson's is easy for me. It's his one punch knockout of Fullmer.
Petrolle's I'd say is his decision win over Jimmy McLarnin.
NEXT Rocky Kansas
Re: ATG fighter's biggest/most important fight
Posted: 30 Jun 2009, 12:00
by bjermaine
probably kansas' first title fight loss to leonard.
alexis arguello
Re: ATG fighter's biggest/most important fight
Posted: 30 Jun 2009, 13:02
by SaadOffTheDeck
Pryor I- He had so many great wins, but that fight was clearly the best and had so much on the line. Incredible performance by both fighters and I think that is what comes to mind when you hear either mans name.
Wilfred Benitez
Re: ATG fighter's biggest/most important fight
Posted: 30 Jun 2009, 17:01
by My2Sense
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Wilfred Benitez
Leonard. Two undefeated HOFers at their peaks, Benitez risking his title against the Golden Boy.
Next up:
Hagler
Re: ATG fighter's biggest/most important fight
Posted: 30 Jun 2009, 17:12
by allworld80
My2Sense wrote:Next up:
Hagler
Leonard was probably bigger, but Hearns was the most important, IMO.
Julio Cesar Chavez
Re: ATG fighter's biggest/most important fight
Posted: 30 Jun 2009, 17:15
by bjermaine
tzyuforever wrote:My2Sense wrote:Next up:
Hagler
Leonard was probably bigger, but Hearns was the most important, IMO.
Julio Cesar Chavez
chavez's "draw" to whitaker was his biggest fight.
next, mike tyson
Re: ATG fighter's biggest/most important fight
Posted: 30 Jun 2009, 17:21
by toppity
tzyuforever wrote:My2Sense wrote:Next up:
Hagler
Leonard was probably bigger, but Hearns was the most important, IMO.
Julio Cesar Chavez
I'd like to say your name sake, but i think the second fight loss against ODH was more important after they had both moved up to Welter. Kostya did spell the end of his world class career though.
Bring this through the natural progression -
Kostya Tszyu
Re: ATG fighter's biggest/most important fight
Posted: 30 Jun 2009, 18:20
by allworld80
Either the Judah fight, which he was the betting underdog if I remember right, or the 2nd Sharmba Mitchell fight, when he was coming off an injury, and against Mitchell, who he struggled with in their first meeting until Mitchell was injured.
Larry Holmes
Re: ATG fighter's biggest/most important fight
Posted: 30 Jun 2009, 19:05
by bjermaine
tzyuforever wrote:
Larry Holmes
the win over cooney.
muhammad ali
Re: ATG fighter's biggest/most important fight
Posted: 30 Jun 2009, 19:09
by raylawpc
Liston I
Mysterious Billy Smith
Re: ATG fighter's biggest/most important fight
Posted: 30 Jun 2009, 19:15
by dempseyfire
raylawpc wrote:Liston I
Mysterious Billy Smith
Winning the title vs Matthews
Benny Leonard
Re: ATG fighter's biggest/most important fight
Posted: 30 Jun 2009, 19:49
by bjermaine
dempseyfire wrote:raylawpc wrote:Liston I
Mysterious Billy Smith
Winning the title vs Matthews
Benny Leonard
i'll say the second title defense vs. tendler. raylawpc, i would disagree with you about ali. the first frazier fight was probably his biggest and well as maybe the biggest of all-time.
sam langford
Re: ATG fighter's biggest/most important fight
Posted: 30 Jun 2009, 20:18
by raylawpc
bjermaine wrote:dempseyfire wrote:raylawpc wrote:Liston I
Mysterious Billy Smith
Winning the title vs Matthews
Benny Leonard
i'll say the second title defense vs. tendler. raylawpc, i would disagree with you about ali. the first frazier fight was probably his biggest and well as maybe the biggest of all-time.
sam langford
You'd have never seen Ali-Frazier if he hadn't beat Liston. But, beyond that, the fight was considered, at the time, as one of the biggest upsets in boxing history. It also ushered in a career that re-energized boxing in the early 1960s, which had been in the doldrums.
(Somebody else can take Langford).
Re: ATG fighter's biggest/most important fight
Posted: 01 Jul 2009, 00:45
by Goodnight, Irene
Difficult to say in the moment of his day, but I suppose, retrospectively, his fight with Johnson, as that was probably his greatest career opponent, & he performed admirably. Possibly his sparking of a green George Godfrey also breathed fresh life into the latter stages of his career.
(Incidentally, Ali once said his biggest moment was with Foreman, & I'm inclined to agree --- though I can see a much better case for his first encounter with Frazier than the Liston argument).
Buster Do...just kidding 
D
Jimmy McLarnin?
Re: ATG fighter's biggest/most important fight
Posted: 01 Jul 2009, 01:39
by witherspoon
Goodnight, Irene wrote:Difficult to say in the moment of his day, but I suppose, retrospectively, his fight with Johnson, as that was probably his greatest career opponent, & he performed admirably. Possibly his sparking of a green George Godfrey also breathed fresh life into the latter stages of his career.
(Incidentally, Ali once said his biggest moment was with Foreman, & I'm inclined to agree --- though I can see a much better case for his first encounter with Frazier than the Liston argument).
Buster Do...just kidding D
Jimmy McLarnin?
Barney Ross III.
Steve Collins.
Re: ATG fighter's biggest/most important fight
Posted: 01 Jul 2009, 03:05
by SaadOffTheDeck
Eubank II- It solidified his first win wasn't a fluke and he was an elite fighter at 68.
From earlier I don't see leonard above Cervantes for Wilfred. That's a record that more than likely will never be broken.
How about Victor Galindez?
Re: ATG fighter's biggest/most important fight
Posted: 01 Jul 2009, 04:43
by My2Sense
No one answered this one:
bjermaine wrote:
next, mike tyson
I'd say Lennox. Lennox was probably the most highly regarded of anyone Tyson had ever fought, and the fight broke PPV records.
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
How about Victor Galindez?
Tough to call, as it's hard to single out one of his fights as clearly standing out from the others. I think I'd say the second Yaqui Lopez fight, as Lopez was coming off a super impressive win over Mike Rossman, and some people thought he had already beaten Galindez in their first fight.
Next up:
Jack Dempsey
Re: ATG fighter's biggest/most important fight
Posted: 01 Jul 2009, 09:38
by raylawpc
My2Sense wrote:No one answered this one:
bjermaine wrote:
next, mike tyson
I'd say Lennox. Lennox was probably the most highly regarded of anyone Tyson had ever fought, and the fight broke PPV records.
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
How about Victor Galindez?
Tough to call, as it's hard to single out one of his fights as clearly standing out from the others. I think I'd say the second Yaqui Lopez fight, as Lopez was coming off a super impressive win over Mike Rossman, and some people thought he had already beaten Galindez in their first fight.
Next up:
Jack Dempsey
Jess Willard
George "Kid" Lavigne
Re: ATG fighter's biggest/most important fight
Posted: 01 Jul 2009, 14:30
by bjermaine
raylawpc wrote:
George "Kid" Lavigne
1st win over joe walcott
floyd patterson
Re: ATG fighter's biggest/most important fight
Posted: 01 Jul 2009, 15:22
by raylawpc
bjermaine wrote:raylawpc wrote:
George "Kid" Lavigne
1st win over joe walcott
floyd patterson
Win over Johansson
Terry McGovern
Re: ATG fighter's biggest/most important fight
Posted: 01 Jul 2009, 19:26
by My2Sense
raylawpc wrote:
Terry McGovern
Title fight with long-reigning HOFer George Dixon.
Next up:
Marciano