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Declan Timlin and Coleman Barrett being mentioned.

http://www.irish-boxing.com/stories/jul ... title.html

I think he should fight a few more fights before he goes for any title i would prefer him to fight McDermott for the English after a few more fights

McDonut for the English belt is perfect, but if he can get a shot at the Irish title on the McIntosh/Cleverly card then that's perfect as well. Barrett or McKenna are two fighters that spring to mind. Fury beats them both in style in my opinion.

Dioufy wrote:McDonut for the English belt is perfect, but if he can get a shot at the Irish title on the McIntosh/Cleverly card then that's perfect as well. Barrett or McKenna are two fighters that spring to mind. Fury beats them both in style in my opinion.

I agree!!

Fighting Coleman Barrett would be a complete and utter disgraceful match up - Fury could go into that fight blindfolded!!!

I have never seen him fight, but he has a 8-0 record. Surely that's not too bad for his first minor professional title?

I haven't see Barrett to be fair but Timlin is awful. Fury would walk through him in a single round. It's about time they made the Irish heavyweight title vacant anyway, regardless of who contests it. Fury V Kenna anybody??

Dioufy wrote:I have never seen him fight, but he has a 8-0 record. Surely that's not too bad?

I seen him fight a while back when he first turned pro at York Hall - I actually think that fight was on the BBC - it was on the undercard of Stephen Smith v Alan Bosworth fight - what a fight that was!!!

Anyhow back to Barrett - sorry just look at his record and the longevity of that record will tell you all you need to know!!!

fury needs to take his time,when 4 rounds is as far as you've gone(weither it be by ko)a seasoned vet may get him in deep water in the later rounds,its managements decisions now that make green fighters see red!Fighters are always confident,wouldn't be there otherwise,time a little more time imo.

Tyson's as Irish as Tony Cascarino

Chambers2 wrote:Tyson's as Irish as Tony Cascarino

Zzzzzzzz! boring wanker!

mrrocco wrote:Tyson is an Irish-origined traveller as I understand.

By the way Mikkel Kessler has an English mother - but I bet you wouldn't class him as English. The whole nationality question is full of pitfalls and differing opinions and stances. If he's eligible to fight for the Irish title than so be it.

On another question, isn't Coleman Barret FRancis Barrett's brother or cousin? And whatever happened to him?

Tyson considers himself as Irish if not more Irish than he does British. He has also represented Ireland internationally at amateur level. Only an ignorant bigot would want to deny him the right to fight for the title of "his" country.

Coleman and Francie are cousins. Francie retired a few years ago and now is involved (to some degree) with promoting.

mrrocco wrote:

man grenade wrote:dont agree with this 'oh im english with a bit of irish with a hint italian/mexican thrown in' bollocks.decide what nationality you are ,(pretty simple its were you were born and have spent the large majority of your life) stick to it and then represent it.people that embrace 10 nationalities just to appeal to a larger audience get on my tits but its one way to make more cash i suppose.

It's never that simple - I was born in Portugal to an English father and a spanish mother who was brought up in the US but is very spanish. I grew up in 8 different countries, but have spent that last 18 years in the UK - tell me then, under your logic what country I am from????

Love it great answer

mrrocco wrote:

man grenade wrote:dont agree with this 'oh im english with a bit of irish with a hint italian/mexican thrown in' bollocks.decide what nationality you are ,(pretty simple its were you were born and have spent the large majority of your life) stick to it and then represent it.people that embrace 10 nationalities just to appeal to a larger audience get on my tits but its one way to make more cash i suppose.

It's never that simple - I was born in Portugal to an English father and a spanish mother who was brought up in the US but is very spanish. I grew up in 8 different countries, but have spent that last 18 years in the UK - tell me then, under your logic what country I am from????

portugese, english and spanish

sligobhoy67 wrote:

Chambers2 wrote:Tyson's as Irish as Tony Cascarino

Zzzzzzzz! boring wanker!

OOOooooooo, get you!

The Irish Olympic boxing team selectors didn't seem to think that Tyson was very Irish

mrrocco wrote:

man grenade wrote:dont agree with this 'oh im english with a bit of irish with a hint italian/mexican thrown in' bollocks.decide what nationality you are ,(pretty simple its were you were born and have spent the large majority of your life) stick to it and then represent it.people that embrace 10 nationalities just to appeal to a larger audience get on my tits but its one way to make more cash i suppose.

It's never that simple - I was born in Portugal to an English father and a spanish mother who was brought up in the US but is very spanish. I grew up in 8 different countries, but have spent that last 18 years in the UK - tell me then, under your logic what country I am from????

By my calculations you're German

Chambers2 wrote:

sligobhoy67 wrote:

Chambers2 wrote:Tyson's as Irish as Tony Cascarino

Zzzzzzzz! boring wanker!

OOOooooooo, get you!

The Irish Olympic boxing team selectors didn't seem to think that Tyson was very Irish

Actually they did. My understanding of the situation was that it was the Holy Trinity club in Belfast that protested about him.

The IABA allowed him to represent Ireland in two internationals (v. USA and Poland I think). He living and training in Ireland at the time and was registered to fight in the national Elite finals which was the Irish qualifier for the Olympic qualifiers. Then a few days before he was to fight the Holy Trinity club, where Cathal McMonagle (the reigning Irish champion) trains, lodged a protest about him and wanted to see birth certs.

Like many people from the travelling community documentation isn't as straight forward as those from the settled community because originals get lost etc. The Fury's traced the original birth cert to the records office in Galway and they drove down to get it only to be told on arrival that it was destroyed in a fire in the 1970's.

Now thats the version of the story that I was told.

I cant understand why some english people get upset about things like this , its alright for de la hoya to play the mexican anthem at his fights and other mexican - ameican fighters yet when an irish - english fighter says he is primarily english there is uproar , fury states in a few videos on youtube that he is irish as do most of the travelling community in england

Dioufy wrote:McDonut for the English belt is perfect, but if he can get a shot at the Irish title on the McIntosh/Cleverly card then that's perfect as well. Barrett or McKenna are two fighters that spring to mind. Fury beats them both in style in my opinion.

Should of signed with Frankie. He would of had 10 WBO defences under his belt by now :P

Spud wrote:

Dioufy wrote:I have never seen him fight, but he has a 8-0 record. Surely that's not too bad?

I seen him fight a while back when he first turned pro at York Hall - I actually think that fight was on the BBC - it was on the undercard of Stephen Smith v Alan Bosworth fight - what a fight that was!!!

Anyhow back to Barrett - sorry just look at his record and the longevity of that record will tell you all you need to know!!!

he was a cruiserweight then, and a non punching one at that. its all prety sad, a below average pro, with little channce of progressing beyond area level, trying to climb aboard the tyson fury gravy train to make a few bob.

name another tyson fury opponent (not including matthew 'shot to bits and collecting cheques' ellis) who coleman barret would beat?

moorser wrote:I cant understand why some english people get upset about things like this , its alright for de la hoya to play the mexican anthem at his fights and other mexican - ameican fighters yet when an irish - english fighter says he is primarily english there is uproar , fury states in a few videos on youtube that he is irish as do most of the travelling community in england

Can you point out these English people who are getting upset about this and I'll have a word with em for ya, also where is this uproar that ya referred to?


I cant understand why the Micks are getting upset about things like this

Chambers2 wrote:

moorser wrote:I cant understand why some english people get upset about things like this , its alright for de la hoya to play the mexican anthem at his fights and other mexican - ameican fighters yet when an irish - english fighter says he is primarily english there is uproar , fury states in a few videos on youtube that he is irish as do most of the travelling community in england

Can you point out these English people who are getting upset about this and I'll have a word with em for ya, also where is this uproar that ya referred to?


I cant understand why the Micks are getting upset about things like this

theres been a few people on this site and other sites complaining that tyson is fighting for an irish title is stupid etc as he is not irish !!

Chambers2 wrote:

moorser wrote:I cant understand why some english people get upset about things like this , its alright for de la hoya to play the mexican anthem at his fights and other mexican - ameican fighters yet when an irish - english fighter says he is primarily english there is uproar , fury states in a few videos on youtube that he is irish as do most of the travelling community in england

Can you point out these English people who are getting upset about this and I'll have a word with em for ya, also where is this uproar that ya referred to?


I cant understand why the Micks are getting upset about things like this

ZZzzzzzzzzzz!! sh1t wind up! at least use some imagination you cretin!

Tyson's predominately English, so that does it for me. He could be 1/10th Afghani for all I care.

Didn't he only join the Irish amateur squad because he was bitter that Price was rightfully going to the olympics instead of him?

rhino222 wrote:

Spud wrote:

Dioufy wrote:I have never seen him fight, but he has a 8-0 record. Surely that's not too bad?

I seen him fight a while back when he first turned pro at York Hall - I actually think that fight was on the BBC - it was on the undercard of Stephen Smith v Alan Bosworth fight - what a fight that was!!!

Anyhow back to Barrett - sorry just look at his record and the longevity of that record will tell you all you need to know!!!

he was a cruiserweight then, and a non punching one at that. its all prety sad, a below average pro, with little channce of progressing beyond area level, trying to climb aboard the tyson fury gravy train to make a few bob.

name another tyson fury opponent (not including matthew 'shot to bits and collecting cheques' ellis) who coleman barret would beat?

Exactly Rhino!!!