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Didn't know that Hamed and Khan are brothers

Posted: 18 Jul 2009, 21:27
by Quixall
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Re: Didn't know that Hamed and Khan are brothers

Posted: 18 Jul 2009, 21:30
by whicker
Don't be a Turnip.

Some people use the word "brother" in a friendly term, a bit like saying "I'm going to support my mate." "I'm going to support mt pal" etc.

It's used by "fraternal" group,s and also as a general term by members of the Islamic faith to mean "fellow believer."

Re: Didn't know that Hamed and Khan are brothers

Posted: 18 Jul 2009, 21:30
by Flump
Yep, he's a world class twat, and what he went to prison for tells you everything you need to know about him.

Re: Didn't know that Hamed and Khan are brothers

Posted: 18 Jul 2009, 21:35
by Quixall
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Re: Didn't know that Hamed and Khan are brothers

Posted: 18 Jul 2009, 21:38
by observer1
Quixall wrote:
whicker wrote:Don't be a Turnip.

Some people use the word "brother" in a friendly term, a bit like saying "I'm going to support my mate." "I'm going to support mt pal" etc.

It's used by "fraternal" group,s and also as a general term by members of the Islamic faith to mean "fellow believer."
You and i both know that he was using the race card and as i say, he is 36 years of age and i'm sure that most observers of the islamic faith don't call each other "brother" at all.
It's more of a society thing.

Coming from an Asian background, i'll tell you myself there are lots who use the term "Brother" to refer to someone, just as much as they would use "mate" or "pal" etc.

Considering they both have the same thing in common, Boxers coming from ethnic minorities, it's understandable why he used it.

He says it once, and you make a thread about it?

Re: Didn't know that Hamed and Khan are brothers

Posted: 18 Jul 2009, 21:41
by whicker
Quixall wrote:
whicker wrote:Don't be a Turnip.

Some people use the word "brother" in a friendly term, a bit like saying "I'm going to support my mate." "I'm going to support mt pal" etc.

It's used by "fraternal" group,s and also as a general term by members of the Islamic faith to mean "fellow believer."
You and i both know that he was using the race card and as i say, he is 36 years of age and i'm sure that most observers of the islamic faith don't call each other "brother" at all.
Some do- and also some Christians do.

When I was younger, I went on a Christian camp, and the adults were "Uncle" and "Aunty" and the fellow campers were "brother" or "sister."

Moreover, for crying out loud, its just a WORD!

Re: Didn't know that Hamed and Khan are brothers

Posted: 18 Jul 2009, 21:52
by Quixall
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Re: Didn't know that Hamed and Khan are brothers

Posted: 18 Jul 2009, 21:54
by Quixall
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Re: Didn't know that Hamed and Khan are brothers

Posted: 18 Jul 2009, 22:00
by Des1
There are many words people use for someone they know, generally like, assosiate with or feel they are on the same wave length, some examples : Mate, Bro, fellow, bruv, geezer, pal, brother, man etc etc. Are you telling me you have never referred to someone as 'mate' like 'yes mate' to someone you dont really know and is not infact a 'mate'?? It's a figure of speech which Im sure you'll find many people say unconciously, they dont directly mean it as literal, its likely you have used one of the above like 'mate' to someone you dont even know so stop being so anal :roll: One of the most pointless posts Ive seen.

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Posted: 18 Jul 2009, 22:14
by Quixall
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Re: Didn't know that Hamed and Khan are brothers

Posted: 18 Jul 2009, 22:41
by Des1
Quixall wrote:
Des1 wrote:There are many words people use for someone they know, generally like, assosiate with or feel they are on the same wave length, some examples : Mate, Bro, fellow, bruv, geezer, pal, brother, man etc etc. Are you telling me you have never referred to someone as 'mate' like 'yes mate' to someone you dont really know and is not infact a 'mate'?? It's a figure of speech which Im sure you'll find many people say unconciously, they dont directly mean it as literal, its likely you have used one of the above like 'mate' to someone you dont even know so stop being so anal :roll: One of the most pointless posts Ive seen.
The point is, that only asian guys use the term "brother" to each other and so when Hamed used that term, he was trying to identify himself with a particular race and faith. In my experience, no-one exept asian guys use the term "brother", so it's used to seperate themselves from the host community and it's done on for that reason. He know's Khan about as well as i do, i doubt that he has visited him once at home or in his gym, so why can't he just turn up for the fight and watch like everyone else, instead of coming out with insincere crap. He has to try and emphasize the faith and it suggests that he is only supporting Khan because he follows the islamic faith, where as everyone else supports Khan because he is a fighter that they like to watch and (mostly) want to win. It's Hamed trying to be contraversial.
Same as alot use the term 'mate', you could say the same as 'only' white guys use this term, you could say only black guys use the term 'man'....It's not a race issue, its more of a case of what you mainly hear growing up in a community, coming out with mate, pal, dude, bro, man, brother, geezer, bruv etc I'm sure its just mainly done subconciously...mate! :DDD

Re: Didn't know that Hamed and Khan are brothers

Posted: 18 Jul 2009, 22:59
by whicker
Quixall wrote:Well, you contradict yourself whicker. If it's "just a word" then why does it play a significance only in young asian guys who follow the islamic faith ? My mates don't call each other "brother", so it's perhaps used by the asian youth, to seperate themselves from from the host community.
As I said in the post you quote, plus my earlier reply, it is not just "Asians"* who refer to each other as "brother." Some christians also do. A catholic preist is of course "Father." "Brothers and Sisters in Christ" etc.




(* Not all Asians are muslims, and not all muslims are Asians)

Re: Didn't know that Hamed and Khan are brothers

Posted: 19 Jul 2009, 02:42
by observer1
WTF?

is this guy stupid or something?

Who are you to judge someone if use the term "Brother" or not? lol?

It's pretty obvious it's not his vocabulary you've a problem with, so whatever it is, just come out and say it otherwise shut it

Re: Didn't know that Hamed and Khan are brothers

Posted: 19 Jul 2009, 02:43
by banjo
I've only got sisters so I don't say brother :geek2:

Re: Didn't know that Hamed and Khan are brothers

Posted: 19 Jul 2009, 03:12
by m1kee50
I say 'bruv' all the time, occasionally 'brother' but that's usually in a more ironic sense, it's kind of expected in cockney territory that you make an effort with the colloquialisms.

I tell you what DID get my goat, this wasn't last night, but it leads up to it. I was watching a show, ITV, Khan was undercard and Danny Williams was main event. Hamed is ringside, someone pops over for a chat, and Hamed declares to the viewers he is 'here to support my fellow Muslim, Amir Khan'.... what about Danny Williams mate, he's a Muslim too? Maybe he meant it in the sense of 'fellow Asian', and for all I know him and Amir are mates in real life, so I couldn't give a toss if he calls him 'brother', nor should anyone else, IMO.

If he'd said 'He's my Lover!', well then, maybe some questions could have been asked ringside, as it were.

Re: Didn't know that Hamed and Khan are brothers

Posted: 19 Jul 2009, 04:02
by Old bones Ian
So are monks muslims?

Re: Didn't know that Hamed and Khan are brothers

Posted: 19 Jul 2009, 04:09
by m1kee50
Old bones Ian wrote:So are monks muslims?
Apparently so... personally I think anyone who uses the letter after 'A' is suspect...

Re: Didn't know that Hamed and Khan are brothers

Posted: 19 Jul 2009, 04:59
by stevieb_8006
what a shit thread

Re: Didn't know that Hamed and Khan are brothers

Posted: 19 Jul 2009, 05:07
by twenty six
Quixall,
You've really surprised me with this thread.
In fact there's an argument to say the manner in which you have raised this thread is more inflammatory than the utterance of Naz.
Back to boxing please.

Re: Didn't know that Hamed and Khan are brothers

Posted: 19 Jul 2009, 06:01
by yoyo
you dont realy see naz at the fights no more do u? i cant recall seeing more than once at a fight since he has retired n that was the hatton fight at sheffield arena n now his brother as a world title fight he's back in the crowd front row funny seeing him try get in the ring at the end n the security wouldnt let him in haha lol! a TOTAL PRICK with a mouth that talks pure s**t

:lol:

Re: Didn't know that Hamed and Khan are brothers

Posted: 19 Jul 2009, 07:44
by WildWaylon
Quixall wrote:
Des1 wrote:There are many words people use for someone they know, generally like, assosiate with or feel they are on the same wave length, some examples : Mate, Bro, fellow, bruv, geezer, pal, brother, man etc etc. Are you telling me you have never referred to someone as 'mate' like 'yes mate' to someone you dont really know and is not infact a 'mate'?? It's a figure of speech which Im sure you'll find many people say unconciously, they dont directly mean it as literal, its likely you have used one of the above like 'mate' to someone you dont even know so stop being so anal :roll: One of the most pointless posts Ive seen.
The point is, that only asian guys use the term "brother" to each other and so when Hamed used that term, he was trying to identify himself with a particular race and faith. In my experience, no-one exept asian guys use the term "brother", so it's used to seperate themselves from the host community and it's done on for that reason. He know's Khan about as well as i do, i doubt that he has visited him once at home or in his gym, so why can't he just turn up for the fight and watch like everyone else, instead of coming out with insincere crap. He has to try and emphasize the faith and it suggests that he is only supporting Khan because he follows the islamic faith, where as everyone else supports Khan because he is a fighter that they like to watch and (mostly) want to win. It's Hamed trying to be contraversial.
Some black guys use the term brother as well.

Re: Didn't know that Hamed and Khan are brothers

Posted: 19 Jul 2009, 07:46
by twenty six
Wrong.
He was at Rhodes fight at York Hall last year.
Yo yo - bounce back on your elastic band.

Re: Didn't know that Hamed and Khan are brothers

Posted: 19 Jul 2009, 07:48
by Phenomenal-Nutrition
Quixall wrote: You and i both know that he was using the race card and as i say, he is 36 years of age and i'm sure that most observers of the islamic faith don't call each other "brother" at all.
People that practise Islam refer to fellow muslim men as brothers, just like in days gone by Christians would do the same thing, its not at all racial, its religiousism if thats a word

Hamed and Khan aren't the same race in case you didn't know

Re: Didn't know that Hamed and Khan are brothers

Posted: 19 Jul 2009, 08:12
by Manc_Red
This is a silly thread really - my friend call's me bro, I don't - so what?

Re: Didn't know that Hamed and Khan are brothers

Posted: 19 Jul 2009, 08:14
by Quixall
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