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Come on! Matt Scriven is tough, experience, and above all was fighting back!

A Referee shouldn't stop a fight just because a boxer was in a corner!

Who was reffing this?

Like it made a difference

Hagler2002 wrote:Like it made a difference

Scriven can't work now for 6 weeks- could cost him £2000 in missed work.

When Buckley was stopped by Naz, it meant about £3000 in lost earnings.

whicker wrote:

Hagler2002 wrote:Like it made a difference

Scriven can't work now for 6 weeks- could cost him £2000 in missed work.

When Buckley was stopped by Naz, it meant about £3000 in lost earnings.

He will have taken that fight fully expecting what happened, and I'm pretty sure he will have be paid more than what he could of earned in the next 6 months for it.

It was only the second round and he was under an awful lot of pressure and he was barely fighting back, i thought it was a good stoppage. it had ceased to be in any way competitive and Scriven was just taking shots and being banged about and rocked.

Punchy Joe wrote:It was only the second round and he was under an awful lot of pressure and he was barely fighting back, i thought it was a good stoppage. it had ceased to be in any way competitive and Scriven was just taking shots and being banged about and rocked.

Scriven did seem to fire back with some good shots, after a strong volley from Saunders. Then Saunders threw a couple, which didn't seem to do any great damage, and it was waved off.

Scriven is good enough to get out of that kind of position.

whicker wrote:

Punchy Joe wrote:It was only the second round and he was under an awful lot of pressure and he was barely fighting back, i thought it was a good stoppage. it had ceased to be in any way competitive and Scriven was just taking shots and being banged about and rocked.

Scriven did seem to fire back with some good shots, after a strong volley from Saunders. Then Saunders threw a couple, which didn't seem to do any great damage, and it was waved off.

Scriven is good enough to get out of that kind of position.

It wasn't about Scriven surviving the 4rnds it was all about the FW cash cow looking good on a PPV card in his 3rd fight.

Only gonna be one winner but it was bogus in my view. Scriven threw the last shot. BJ is the least impressive of the Olympian for me and I o worry for him if he starts to belive his papaer record so far is a true reflection of what he has in his fists

Thought the Gavin stoppage was a little premature as well

lefthook82 wrote:
Thought the Gavin stoppage was a little premature as well

Fearn does post here, I got the impression he was impressed with Gavin.

When a guy has been down twice, often a stoppage is the right decisions.

That said, why did the ref give a count, only to immediatly wave the fight off when Fearn got up? He had clearly already made his decision.

Agreed @ whicker

Its funny but if he had just dispensed with the count adter the 2nd knockdown I wouldnt be saying shit but dont give a guy a count if you don't want him to carry on

The combo he put Fearn down with was a thing of beauty it has to be said.

whicker wrote:

lefthook82 wrote:
Thought the Gavin stoppage was a little premature as well

Fearn does post here, I got the impression he was impressed with Gavin.

When a guy has been down twice, often a stoppage is the right decisions.

That said, why did the ref give a count, only to immediatly wave the fight off when Fearn got up? He had clearly already made his decision.

Same ref did the same thing with Mark Nillson vs Matty Askin and the bell had gone at six he was on his feet at five he counted to out then waved it off.

Regardless of the stoppage - Saunders is going to do very well for himself - I like his style and he is not getting the headlines and thus the bullsh*t the others are getting and can get on with the job.

whicker wrote:

Hagler2002 wrote:Like it made a difference

Scriven can't work now for 6 weeks- could cost him £2000 in missed work.

When Buckley was stopped by Naz, it meant about £3000 in lost earnings.

But a least he can fight again .Seen Matt box lots of times and he does take a lot of shots he might be tough and all that but as you know it only takes one shot and he was starting to get beat up

@spud

I expect him to be the first of the 3 to come unstuck to be honest, but i guess we can discuss that in another thread

Saunders boxed at supermiddle weight...........he seems a bit small theres some big middleweights out there i no he boxed at 69kg in olympics will he be boxing at that weight??????????????

lefthook82 wrote:@spud

I expect him to be the first of the 3 to come unstuck to be honest, but i guess we can discuss that in another thread

I'm expecting Saunders to have some harder fights because of his style compared with the other olympians, i did like his body shots, but i'm maybe leaning towards him having the first 'O' to go.

It's early doors, but I can see this sort of route until they have had at least 10-12 fights, so 2012!

I think most the olympians (not just Warren's) have been gifted perhaps a little too early stoppage in most their fights. I know they were guaranteed to win those fights but it still denies the paying public. Hopefully when they step up a bit refs will be less likely to jump in at the first sign of a flurry.

Its not the olympians fault thereselves they can only do whats infront of them. Been impressed by all of them so far stuggling to decide who I think will do best, Jeffries and BJ Saunders have impressed me most.

saturday_kid wrote:I think most the olympians (not just Warren's) have been gifted perhaps a little too early stoppage in most their fights. I know they were guaranteed to win those fights but it still denies the paying public. Hopefully when they step up a bit refs will be less likely to jump in at the first sign of a flurry.

That is true.

Hard one to call, in some cases, as if a fighter is being outclassed then it can be a good stoppage. But even so, it IS a boxing match, after all.

i think the early stoppages happen alot more on fwanks shows than other

lefthook82 wrote: Thought the Gavin stoppage was a little premature as well

No chance mate, The first body shot that Fearn went down from was right round the back of the elbow and he was still in pain when he got up!! It was then that he started to cover his body and punches were bouncing off his head and chin, Just as the ref was about to come on Frankie hit him with a another sickener body shot and he went down!! When he went down the ref was about to wave it off and had a good look at him thought about it but must have looked into his eyes and seen that he didn't want anymore!! Fearn didn't protest and barely landed a punch on Frankie..

gavin was really impressive think hes one of the hottest prospect along with smith

Fair enough@ bomber. I withdraw my comment

Gavin still looked good anyway, as did Degale.

lefthook82 wrote:Fair enough@ bomber. I withdraw my comment

Gavin still looked good anyway, as did Degale.

You shouldn't withdraw your comment mate.. Everyone is entitled to an opnion..

That was mine and yours was yours mate..

I agree with you Frankie looked great!! I said when he get's someone who'll attack him you'll really see the best of him, He's the hardest thing I've ever seen to hit, There's so many stories I could tell you mate,

This is a quick one, Aydin Selchuk was a fantastic amatuer and won tons of medals for his country Turkey and is now a very succesful pro in Germany! He boxed Frankie at the Europeans and Frankie sent him that wild cos he couldn't hit him that he threw him on the floor and punched him in the back of the head, Frankie was winning about 6-0 at the time and the ref eneded up DQ'ing Selchuk at which point he was going so crazy cos of Frankie he went for ther ref,his coach and kicked a 20litre tub of water about 5 ft in the air.It was the craziest thing I've ever seen in boxing.Even the coach was that angry he cracked the ref too!! This was a world medalist,european medalist and a knockout specialist on the am scene too, He was a top class am and Frankie made him go completly off his rocker..

Frankie is almot impossible to nail when he relaxes and get's going and the better the opponent the more you'll see this.

Bomber 1 wrote:

lefthook82 wrote:Fair enough@ bomber. I withdraw my comment

Gavin still looked good anyway, as did Degale.

You shouldn't withdraw your comment mate.. Everyone is entitled to an opnion..

That was mine and yours was yours mate..

I agree with you Frankie looked great!! I said when he get's someone who'll attack him you'll really see the best of him, He's the hardest thing I've ever seen to hit, There's so many stories I could tell you mate,

This is a quick one, Aydin Selchuk was a fantastic amatuer and won tons of medals for his country Turkey and is now a very succesful pro in Germany! He boxed Frankie at the Europeans and Frankie sent him that wild cos he couldn't hit him that he threw him on the floor and punched him in the back of the head, Frankie was winning about 6-0 at the time and the ref eneded up DQ'ing Selchuk at which point he was going so crazy cos of Frankie he went for ther ref,his coach and kicked a 20litre tub of water about 5 ft in the air.It was the craziest thing I've ever seen in boxing.Even the coach was that angry he cracked the ref too!! This was a world medalist,european medalist and a knockout specialist on the am scene too, He was a top class am and Frankie made him go completly off his rocker..

Frankie is almot impossible to nail when he relaxes and get's going and the better the opponent the more you'll see this.

Yeah, I'm looking forward to his next fight now!