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British & Irish Prospects 2009

Posted: 24 Jul 2009, 10:47
by Asterix
Just wondering who I've missed in my list of British & Irish prospects for 2009. The criteria is that these guys should have under 15 fights. These should be guys who have the potential to at least go to British title level.

Top Prospects
James DeGale W 3 (KO 2) - L 0 (KO 0) - D 0 - 2005 & 2006 ABA Middleweight Champion, 2006 Commonwealth Games Bronze Medalist, 2008 Olympic Gold Medalist
Frankie Gavin W 3 (KO 3) - L 0 (KO 0) - D 0 - 2006 Commonwealth Games Gold Medalist, 2007 ABA Lightweight Champion, 2007 World Amateur Champion
Billy Joe Saunders W 3 (KO 3) - L 0 (KO 0) - D 0 - 2008 Olympian
Stephen Smith W 7 (KO 5) - L 0 (KO 0) - D 0 - 2006 and 2007 ABA Featherweight Champion
Darren Sutherland W 4 (KO 4) - L 0 (KO 0) - D 0 - 2008 Olympic Bronze Medalist
Tony Jeffries W 3 (KO 3) - L 0 (KO 0) - D 0 - 2008 Olympic Bronze Medalist
George Groves W 4 (KO 3) - L 0 (KO 0) - D 0 - 2007 and 2008 ABA Middleweight Champion
Tony Bellew W 9 (KO 6) - L 0 (KO 0) - D 0 - 2004, 2005 and 2006 ABA Heavyweight Champion
David Price W 1 (KO 1) - L 0 (KO 0) - D 0 - 2003, 2005 & 2007 ABA Super Heavyweight Champion, 2006 Commonwealth Games Gold Medalist, 2008 Olympic Bronze Medalist
Tyson Fury W 7 (KO 7) - L 0 (KO 0) - D 0 - 2008 ABA Super Heavyweight Champion
Joe Murray W 2 (KO 0) - L 0 (KO 0) - D 0 - 2007 World Amateur Bronze Medalist, 2008 Olympian

Other Prospects
Jamie Cox W 11 (KO 7) - L 0 (KO 0) - D 0 - 2006 ABA Light Welterweight Champion
Nick MacDonald W 3 (KO 2) - L 1 (KO 1) - D 0 - 2003 and 2006 ABA Bantamweight Champion, 2005 ABA Featherweight Champion.
Martin Murray W 14 (KO 5) - L 0 (KO 0) - D 0 - 2004 ABA Welterweight Champion
Gary Sykes W 12 (KO 4) - L 0 (KO 0) - D 0 - 2005 ABA Lightweight Champion
Paul Edwards W 5 (KO 1) - L 0 (KO 0) - D 0 - 2006 ABA Flyweight Champion
Denton Vassell W 11 (KO 7) - L 0 (KO 0) - D 0 - 2006 ABA Welterweight Champion
Liam Cameron W 0 (KO 0) - L 0 (KO 0) - D 0 - 2009 ABA Welterweight Champion
Liam Smith W 3 (KO 1) - L 0 (KO 0) - D 0 - 2008 ABA Light Welterweight Champion
John Watson W 10 (KO 4) - L 0 (KO 0) - D 0 - 2004 ABA Light Welterweight Champion
Trevor Crewe W 2 (KO 2) - L 0 (KO 0) - D 0
Travis Dickinson W 3 (KO 2) - L 0 (KO 0) - D 0
Joe McNally W 7 (KO 3) - L 0 (KO 0) - D 0
Kris Hughes W 8 (KO 0) - L 0 (KO 0) - D 0
Steve Williams W 8 (KO 3) - L 0 (KO 0) - D 0
Carl Frampton W 1 (KO 1) - L 0 (KO 0) - D 0
Karl Place W 5 (KO 2) - L 0 (KO 0) - D 0
Tom Dallas W 6 (KO 4) - L 0 (KO 0) - D 0
Steven Ormond W 5 (KO 1) - L 0 (KO 0) - D 0
Scott Quigg W 14 (KO 8) - L 0 (KO 0) - D 0
Tyrone Nurse W 8 (KO 0) - L 0 (KO 0) - D 0
Kieran Farrell W 3 (KO 1) - L 0 (KO 0) - D 0
Jack Arnfield W 10 (KO 3) - L 0 (KO 0) - D 0
Gary McArthur W 13 (KO 1) - L 1 (KO 1) - D 0
Eddie Hyland W 13 (KO 4) - L 1 (KO 1) - D 0
Gary O'Sullivan W 8 (KO 6) - L 0 (KO 0) - D 0
Steven Ormond W 5 (KO 1) - L 0 (KO 0) - D 0
Dean Byrne W 11 (KO 4) - L 0 (KO 0) - D 0
Michael Sweeney W 7 (KO 4) - L 0 (KO 0) - D 1
Willie Casey W 1 (KO 1) - L 0 (KO 0) - D 0
Tom Doran W 2 (KO 0) - L 0 (KO 0) - D 0
Nathan Brough W 7 (KO 2) - L 0 (KO 0) - D 0
Brian Rose W 13 (KO 3) - L 0 (KO 0) - D 1
Harry Matthews W 6 (KO 1) - L 0 (KO 0) - D 0
Luke Robinson W 1 (KO 0) - L 0 (KO 0) - D 0

Re: British & Irish Prospects 2009

Posted: 24 Jul 2009, 10:51
by bigped
Kris Hughes 8-0.

Re: British & Irish Prospects 2009

Posted: 24 Jul 2009, 10:53
by Asterix
bigped wrote:Kris Hughes 8-0.
What can you tell me about him? Is he feather-fisted?

Re: British & Irish Prospects 2009

Posted: 24 Jul 2009, 10:54
by bombhead
Is there 2 Stephen Smiths??

Re: British & Irish Prospects 2009

Posted: 24 Jul 2009, 10:54
by Asterix
bombhead wrote:Is there 2 Stephen Smiths??
Yep, here's the other one: http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hu ... &cat=boxer

Re: British & Irish Prospects 2009

Posted: 24 Jul 2009, 10:55
by Gazmac81
From a Scottish point

Gary Mccarthur and Ryan Brawley looked good in Prizfighter
unsure how many fights each have had though.

Re: British & Irish Prospects 2009

Posted: 24 Jul 2009, 10:56
by Asterix
The highest rated UK boxer on Boxrec P4P, who has less than 10 fights, is Steve Williams W 8 (KO 3) - L 0 (KO 0) - D 0 -- strange, but true.

Re: British & Irish Prospects 2009

Posted: 24 Jul 2009, 10:57
by Asterix
Gazmac81 wrote:From a Scottish point

Gary Mccarthur and Ryan Brawley looked good in Prizfighter
unsure how many fights each have had though.
14 and 13, respectively.

Re: British & Irish Prospects 2009

Posted: 24 Jul 2009, 10:59
by Gazmac81
yea just checked that

some of them were only 3 rounders on prizefighter so would stillsay there prospects
although its your game so there not in :lol:
Asterix wrote:
Gazmac81 wrote:From a Scottish point

Gary Mccarthur and Ryan Brawley looked good in Prizfighter
unsure how many fights each have had though.
14 and 13, respectively.

Re: British & Irish Prospects 2009

Posted: 24 Jul 2009, 11:01
by Asterix
If you think they're good enough I'll add them. I'm just trying to gauge how many boxers we've got that people think could do something on the World stage. Do you think either of them have that potential?

Re: British & Irish Prospects 2009

Posted: 24 Jul 2009, 11:03
by mossy141
i would put carl frampton on that list along with karl place.place in particular looked very good last time out

Re: British & Irish Prospects 2009

Posted: 24 Jul 2009, 11:04
by Asterix
I've split the prospects up into 2 groups. Feel free to disagree with their places. :TU:

Re: British & Irish Prospects 2009

Posted: 24 Jul 2009, 11:05
by Asterix
mossy141 wrote:i would put carl frampton on that list along with karl place.place in particular looked very good last time out
Thanks, Mossy. I've added them.

Re: British & Irish Prospects 2009

Posted: 24 Jul 2009, 11:09
by Gazmac81
No i dont think there world material mate

Asterix wrote:If you think they're good enough I'll add them. I'm just trying to gauge how many boxers we've got that people think could do something on the World stage. Do you think either of them have that potential?

Re: British & Irish Prospects 2009

Posted: 24 Jul 2009, 11:23
by moorser
steven ormond 5(1) - 0 based in america from dublin promoted by lou dibella . dibella is supposedly very excited about him

Re: British & Irish Prospects 2009

Posted: 24 Jul 2009, 11:27
by Londonirish
Looks a good list, I was impressed by Tom Dallas in his last fights looked Very Strong 6-0
Jamie Cox is very good 11-0.. Nick MacDonald is much better then a 3-1 think he will have Title fights at Bantam..

Re: British & Irish Prospects 2009

Posted: 24 Jul 2009, 12:23
by bigped
Asterix wrote:
bigped wrote:Kris Hughes 8-0.
What can you tell me about him? Is he feather-fisted?
Good sliky boxer, beat edmunds in wales in his 3rd fight which was a good scalp, good amature, didnt know u were looking for world stage, the lad shud so something domestic wise.

Re: British & Irish Prospects 2009

Posted: 24 Jul 2009, 12:37
by mossy141
Londonirish wrote:Looks a good list, I was impressed by Tom Dallas in his last fights looked Very Strong 6-0
Jamie Cox is very good 11-0.. Nick MacDonald is much better then a 3-1 think he will have Title fights at Bantam..
ya i really like the look of mcdonald too..think he will go places.he is a bit of a banger too

Re: British & Irish Prospects 2009

Posted: 24 Jul 2009, 13:01
by Asterix
I've changed the criteria a little bit.
The criteria is that these guys should have under 15 fights. These should be guys who have the potential to at least go to British title level.

Re: British & Irish Prospects 2009

Posted: 24 Jul 2009, 13:34
by jBacca
Pretty list mate, you should eventually amend it slightly so it's like Horse's p4p list, although yours would be a prospect list.

:TU:

Re: British & Irish Prospects 2009

Posted: 24 Jul 2009, 13:49
by kierny
tyrone nurse is a top prospect 8-0

Re: British & Irish Prospects 2009

Posted: 24 Jul 2009, 14:18
by Poncey

Re: British & Irish Prospects 2009

Posted: 24 Jul 2009, 14:19
by Poncey

Re: British & Irish Prospects 2009

Posted: 24 Jul 2009, 14:20
by GazMan85
Asterix wrote:
bigped wrote:Kris Hughes 8-0.
What can you tell me about him? Is he feather-fisted?

He is really, really tall for a Bantam......Taller than Gary Davies, the guy is nearly six foot!!!!!! :o which makes him really awkward..... I saw one of his fights a couple of years ago, he just kept trying to paw his jab and then was holding. But he was still raw then. He is listed in the rankings for Bantam, but think he is actually a super-bantam.

Re: British & Irish Prospects 2009

Posted: 24 Jul 2009, 15:48
by Asterix
jBacca wrote:Pretty list mate, you should eventually amend it slightly so it's like Horse's p4p list, although yours would be a prospect list.

:TU:
I like the idea of that. I'd rather if it was more of a community effort. Maybe we can have our own prospect rankings, like the rankings topics they do in the Current Scene? I'll think about it.

kierny, Emerson, thanks for the additions.
GazMan85 wrote:
Asterix wrote:
bigped wrote:Kris Hughes 8-0.
What can you tell me about him? Is he feather-fisted?
He is really, really tall for a Bantam......Taller than Gary Davies, the guy is nearly six foot!!!!!! :o which makes him really awkward..... I saw one of his fights a couple of years ago, he just kept trying to paw his jab and then was holding. But he was still raw then. He is listed in the rankings for Bantam, but think he is actually a super-bantam.
I noticed his height. And I thought Derry Mathews was tall for his weight! :lol:

I see Matthew Edmonds on his record, the guy who was recently knocked out by Gary Davies. Looks like it was a close fight (58-57).