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Hayemaker's Boxers

Posted: 31 Jul 2009, 03:04
by whicker
Any news on what the future holds for Hayemakers boxers? John Watson, David Price, Groves etc...

Presumably still seeing if they can get some kind of tv deal.

Re: Hayemaker's Boxers

Posted: 31 Jul 2009, 03:34
by DavidPayne
Oblivion.

David Price should have been busy. It will be a crime if he's not kept busy.

Re: Hayemaker's Boxers

Posted: 31 Jul 2009, 03:41
by whicker
DavidPayne wrote:Oblivion.

David Price should have been busy. It will be a crime if he's not kept busy.
I've heard that they are on favourable (financially) contracts... but useless if they arn't getting the work.

Re: Hayemaker's Boxers

Posted: 31 Jul 2009, 04:40
by twenty six
I think there's a non televised show coming up in September.
I think Price will feature predominantly.

Re: Hayemaker's Boxers

Posted: 31 Jul 2009, 04:43
by twenty six
Whicker,
Fighters don't get paid unless they fight, regardless of their Promotor.
I don't know where you're getting your info from, but I wouldn't say Hayemaker fighters are treated any better or worse than what any other Promotor would offer them.

Re: Hayemaker's Boxers

Posted: 31 Jul 2009, 04:46
by leforge
Any news on TV deal?

Re: Hayemaker's Boxers

Posted: 31 Jul 2009, 05:02
by rhino222
twenty six wrote:Whicker,
Fighters don't get paid unless they fight, regardless of their Promotor.
I don't know where you're getting your info from, but I wouldn't say Hayemaker fighters are treated any better or worse than what any other Promotor would offer them.
did they not all get a decent signing on fee?

Re: Hayemaker's Boxers

Posted: 31 Jul 2009, 05:05
by Spud
whicker wrote:
DavidPayne wrote:Oblivion.

David Price should have been busy. It will be a crime if he's not kept busy.
I've heard that they are on favourable (financially) contracts... but useless if they arn't getting the work.
Rumour has it :TU: - yes they are on a decent basic for each fight but I think they get some sort of % of the profit on the shows.

but problem is that aint going to be a lot on non tv shows!!!

Re: Hayemaker's Boxers

Posted: 31 Jul 2009, 05:09
by twenty six
Rhino,
I'm sure signing on fees were a feature for the likes of Price - but like I say, that would have been no different regardless of the Promotor he decided to sign with.
No different to the Olympians who signed with Wazza for instance.
I don't think any existing pros who signed with them received any financial incentive.

Re: Hayemaker's Boxers

Posted: 31 Jul 2009, 13:32
by alexpaterson
DavidPayne wrote:Oblivion.

David Price should have been busy. It will be a crime if he's not kept busy.
Yes very true he has had 1 fight since turning pro most of the other Olympians have had at least 3 and his mate Fury has had 7 he should of been fighting at least once a month imo

Re: Hayemaker's Boxers

Posted: 31 Jul 2009, 13:48
by whicker
twenty six wrote:Whicker,
Fighters don't get paid unless they fight, regardless of their Promotor.
I don't know where you're getting your info from, but I wouldn't say Hayemaker fighters are treated any better or worse than what any other Promotor would offer them.
Yes, I know fighters don't get paid unless the fight- hence my comment about good contracts being useless if they arn't getting the work!

I don't know what other promotors would offer them, of course, but I know what a couple of the Hayemaker fighters got for the Liverpool show (and I presume others get similar-) and it sounds pretty decent to me.

Re: Hayemaker's Boxers

Posted: 01 Aug 2009, 09:42
by idle talk
october, liverpool.

Re: Hayemaker's Boxers

Posted: 01 Aug 2009, 10:54
by mickey1975
frankie gavin gets a falt and living expenses.also his tea cooked every night!you cant pay for that on boxing every couple of months.also,lennox lewis DEFINATELY had a salary when turning pro.and a good one at that

Re: Hayemaker's Boxers

Posted: 01 Aug 2009, 11:18
by whiskey
mickey1975 wrote:frankie gavin gets a falt and living expenses.also his tea cooked every night!you cant pay for that on boxing every couple of months.also,lennox lewis DEFINATELY had a salary when turning pro.and a good one at that
So now i know where my PPV money goes... Frankie's flat and his supper !

:D

Re: Hayemaker's Boxers

Posted: 01 Aug 2009, 12:12
by Coco
Some elite fighters get a signing on fee, and a small amount get a wage.
For example when JC turned pro in the early 90's Duff paid him a salary of 300 quid a week, and when his purses outweighed this salary he would get the difference

Re: Hayemaker's Boxers

Posted: 01 Aug 2009, 12:28
by whicker
Slightly off topic, but relevant to the recent posts- the term "journeyman" actually comes from the French "Jour" meaning "day." IE a skilled worker who was paid by the day, usually on a come-and-go basis. the next step up would be guildsman or master craftsman, when they would run their own business.

But yeah- "Jour"ney man, was a bit like the middle ages version of a temp, or a supply teacher!

Re: Hayemaker's Boxers

Posted: 01 Aug 2009, 12:55
by Alba
What would a journeyman stand to make on average?I would imagen they could make a decent living if they were busy enough

Re: Hayemaker's Boxers

Posted: 01 Aug 2009, 13:27
by whicker
Alba wrote:What would a journeyman stand to make on average?I would imagen they could make a decent living if they were busy enough
Most journeyman also do other work I think.