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Britains top 10 greatest ever boxers

Posted: 14 Aug 2009, 09:03
by ALI
Something like this may have been done before, but i dont recal seeing anything recently so lets give it a go.

Rank in order from 1st to 10th..... 1st place will pick up ten points, 2nd place nine points etc etc.

Example

1st: Lennox Lewis
2nd:
3rd:
4th:
5th:
6th:
7th:
8th:
9th:
10th: Peter Buckley

Active fighters count, so vote for Hatton, Haye etc if so you wish.

I'll post my list once i work the thing out :-?

Regards
Ali

Re: Britains top 10 greatest ever boxers

Posted: 14 Aug 2009, 09:22
by DG.
sg1985 wrote:1: lennox lewis
2: chris eubank
3: nigel benn
4: ken buchannan
5: joe calzaghe
6: naseem hamed
7: john conteh
8: ricky hatton
9: lloyd honeyghan
10: barry mcguigan
Eubank above Calzaghe?

Apart from Benn and Watson I c an not really say he tested himself.

Tough fighter though.

Re: Britains top 10 greatest ever boxers

Posted: 14 Aug 2009, 09:28
by Rocky Balboa
sg1985 wrote:1: lennox lewis
2: chris eubank
3: nigel benn
4: ken buchannan
5: joe calzaghe
6: naseem hamed
7: john conteh
8: ricky hatton
9: lloyd honeyghan
10: barry mcguigan
No place then for Benny Lynch, Ted Kid Lewis or John H. Stracey?

Re: Britains top 10 greatest ever boxers

Posted: 14 Aug 2009, 09:35
by Horse
1. Jimmy Wilde
2. Robert Fitzsimmons
3. Ted "kid" Lewis
4. Lennox Lewis
5. Freddie Welsh
6. Joe Calzaghe
7. Jackie "Kid" Berg
8. Lloyd Honeyghan
9. Jimmy McLarnin
10. Naseem Hamed


This was done just over a year ago.

http://forum.boxrec.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=81953
http://forum.boxrec.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=82502

Re: Britains top 10 greatest ever boxers

Posted: 14 Aug 2009, 09:51
by ALI
Rocky Balboa wrote:No place then for Benny Lynch, Ted Kid Lewis or John H. Stracey?
You dont have to be a boxing scholar in order to vote, simply vote on what you know.

Personally, there will be fighters from the past i might ommit because i do not know enough about them or have not seen enough of them, or their oponents they fought/did not fight during their era. That could be considered by some a reason for myself, and anyone else like me, not to vote at all on this thread as it could be viewed as obscuring the result. I can relate to that thinking, but if thats what one wants, i reckon the vast majority of us voting on this thread would be obscuring the result!

At the end of the day its just a bit of fun :TU:

Re: Britains top 10 greatest ever boxers

Posted: 14 Aug 2009, 09:56
by alexpaterson
1- Ken Buchanan
2- Jimmy Wilde
3- Bob Fitzsimmonds
4- Lennox Lewis
5- Joe Calzaghe
6- Randolph Turpin
7- Ted Kid Lewis
8- John Conteh
9- Chris Eubank
10- Barry McGuigan

I've bount to of missed out someone I should of had in but its hard to think on the spot :TU:

Re: Britains top 10 greatest ever boxers

Posted: 14 Aug 2009, 10:09
by Rocky Balboa
ALI wrote:
Rocky Balboa wrote:No place then for Benny Lynch, Ted Kid Lewis or John H. Stracey?
You dont have to be a boxing scholar in order to vote, simply vote on what you know.

Personally, there will be fighters from the past i might ommit because i do not know enough about them or have not seen enough of them, or their oponents they fought/did not fight during their era. That could be considered by some a reason for myself, and anyone else like me, not to vote at all on this thread as it could be viewed as obscuring the result. I can relate to that thinking, but if thats what one wants, i reckon the vast majority of us voting on this thread would be obscuring the result!

At the end of the day its just a bit of fun :TU:
Lol I know its just a bit of fun mate. I wasn't having a dig at you. Like you say, if you don't know enough about a certain fighter then you cannot include him!

Re: Britains top 10 greatest ever boxers

Posted: 14 Aug 2009, 12:30
by Bennyblanco
Audley? :D

Re: Britains top 10 greatest ever boxers

Posted: 14 Aug 2009, 12:52
by Ash-Weston
1. Joe Calzaghe
2. Nigel Benn
3. Chris Eubank
4. Llloyd Honeyghan
5. Lennox Lewis
6. Ricky Hatton
7.Naseem Hamed
8. Michael Watson
9. Barry Mcguigan
10. Duke Mckenzie

Please note that this is a list of boxers who have either watched on telly or seen in my lifetime....or live lol

Re: Britains top 10 greatest ever boxers

Posted: 15 Aug 2009, 13:29
by banjo
Lennox Lewis is British born so he is British, he also holds Canadian citizenship which makes him Canadian, Jamaican heritage, trained by a Romanian early in his career, trained by an American in his golden years.

Man of many nationalities 8)

Re: Britains top 10 greatest ever boxers

Posted: 15 Aug 2009, 15:46
by Bomber 1
1.Conteh
2.Lewis
3.Calzaghe
4.Buchannan
5.Eubank
6.Benn
7.Hamed
8.Haye
9.Honeyghan
10.J.H.Stracey

There was more I wanted to rate and I ain't sure this is the best to be fair but there the ones who spring to mind.. :TU:

Re: Britains top 10 greatest ever boxers

Posted: 15 Aug 2009, 15:54
by whiskey
Calzaghe top 5 in everyone's lists?

Here he is, telling Setanta how shot and washed up 40-yr Roy Jones is... six months BEFORE he signed to fight him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWDtzdAYTOA

It's a crying shame that genuine fighters who did fight the very best are considered by many, to be lesser than Calzaghe.

Re: Britains top 10 greatest ever boxers

Posted: 15 Aug 2009, 16:09
by banjo
I'm going for post war fighters because I can't be arsed with all the inevitable "why isn't so and so from 1931 in your list?" questions.

1. Lennox Lewis
2. Ken Buchanan
3. John Conteh
4. Howard Winstone
5. Randolph Turpin
6. Freddie Mills
7. Naseem Hamed
8. John H. Stracey
9. Lloyd Honeyghan
10. Alan Minter

Re: Britains top 10 greatest ever boxers

Posted: 15 Aug 2009, 17:10
by Horse
G0mez wrote:Calzaghe top 5 in everyone's lists?
He wasn't in my top 5.

Re: Britains top 10 greatest ever boxers

Posted: 17 Aug 2009, 06:59
by ALI
After tallying up the first lot of votes, here's how the current top ten is looking:

1) Lennox Lewis - 58
2) Joe Calzaghe - 45
3) Ken Buchannan - 41
4) Chris Eubank - 25
4) John Conteh - 25
6) Nigel Benn - 24
7) Jimmy Wilde - 23
8: Loyd Honeyghan - 22
9) Robert Fitzsimmons - 20
9) Naseem Hamed - 20

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Re: Britains top 10 greatest ever boxers

Posted: 17 Aug 2009, 07:17
by deadpan
John Conteh
Lennox Lewis
Ken Buchanan
Jim Watt
Lloyd Honeyghan
Benny Lynch
Naseem Hamed
Jimmy Wilde
Nigel Benn
Joe Calzaghe

Re: Britains top 10 greatest ever boxers

Posted: 17 Aug 2009, 07:35
by jamesmcdonnell
mrrocco wrote:Lernnox is the best Canadian boxer ever...but doesn't belong on this list. HE represented Canada in the Olympics,not Britain and after his mother left has never lived here.The fact he was born here ishardly the be all and end all.

Ethincally due to an English mum Kessler is Half-english so why do we consider Lennox British and not KEssler?

That's one of the difficult things in determining 'nationality' - is it birthplace? Is it passport? Is it bloodline? Is it where the individual thinks he belongs?

I would say the latter, but Lennox has said he is Jamican-British-Canadian and a man of the world....so basically distances himself a bit...anyway - herte is my list. bearing in mind the difficuty of classification -


  • Joe calzaghe
    Lennox Lewis (if he can be considered British)
    ken buchannan
    Naseem Hamed
    lloyd Honeyghan
    BEnny Lynch
    Jimmy Wilde
    Bob Fitzsimmonds (if he can be considered British)
    Nigel Benn
    Ricky Hatton
this old chestnut.

Lennox lives in the UK until the age of 12. He didn't have much choice but to move to canada as that is where his mum moved to. He has a house here, and one in Jamaica, but none in Canada as far as I am aware.

Kessler was not born in the UK.

Re: Britains top 10 greatest ever boxers

Posted: 17 Aug 2009, 07:38
by banjo
On the flipside you could argue that Honeyghan was Jamaican, he was born there wasn't he? Not that it really matters because he's a UK citizen.

Re: Britains top 10 greatest ever boxers

Posted: 17 Aug 2009, 07:57
by jamesmcdonnell
banjo wrote:On the flipside you could argue that Honeyghan was Jamaican, he was born there wasn't he? Not that it really matters because he's a UK citizen.
Yes, I guess you could. The bottom line is, that Lennox was a UK citizen, was born here, and commenced his career here. Whatever his reasons were for doing so is merely second guessing, he lived and fought out of the UK for several years, before he hit the big time and bought a house in Jamaica and the US, but then as a heavyweight world champ, it kinda makes sense to do so.

He now lives in Jamaica, which is where his mother is from, which again, makes perfect sense.

Re: Britains top 10 greatest ever boxers

Posted: 17 Aug 2009, 08:03
by mickey1975
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
banjo wrote:On the flipside you could argue that Honeyghan was Jamaican, he was born there wasn't he? Not that it really matters because he's a UK citizen.
Yes, I guess you could. The bottom line is, that Lennox was a UK citizen, was born here, and commenced his career here. Whatever his reasons were for doing so is merely second guessing, he lived and fought out of the UK for several years, before he hit the big time and bought a house in Jamaica and the US, but then as a heavyweight world champ, it kinda makes sense to do so.

He now lives in Jamaica, which is where his mother is from, which again, makes perfect sense.
i thought he lies in miami?

Re: Britains top 10 greatest ever boxers

Posted: 17 Aug 2009, 08:09
by jamesmcdonnell
mickey1975 wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
banjo wrote:On the flipside you could argue that Honeyghan was Jamaican, he was born there wasn't he? Not that it really matters because he's a UK citizen.
Yes, I guess you could. The bottom line is, that Lennox was a UK citizen, was born here, and commenced his career here. Whatever his reasons were for doing so is merely second guessing, he lived and fought out of the UK for several years, before he hit the big time and bought a house in Jamaica and the US, but then as a heavyweight world champ, it kinda makes sense to do so.

He now lives in Jamaica, which is where his mother is from, which again, makes perfect sense.
i thought he lies in miami?
Probably has a house in both, last I heard he was in jamaica with his wife.

Re: Britains top 10 greatest ever boxers

Posted: 18 Aug 2009, 09:00
by ALI
Here we go..........

1) Lennox Lewis
2) Ken Buchannan
3) Loyd Honeyghan
4) Ricky Hatton
5) Randolph Turpin
6) John Conteh
7) Joe Calzaghe
8: Naseem Hamed
9) David Haye
10) Michael Watson

After pondering over all those great boxers from before the war, Wilde, Welsh, Lynch, Lewis etc, i came to the conclusion that i knew far to little of their careers and oponents they had faced/had not faced in order to be able to make a sound judgement. It was getting to close to guess work for me, so for that reason i've left them all out and focused on fighters after the second world war. Very odd indeed, given that i started this thread :confused:

Re: Britains top 10 greatest ever boxers

Posted: 18 Aug 2009, 09:10
by ALI
Current top ten:

1) Lennox Lewis - 77
2) Ken Buchannan - 58
3) Joe Calzaghe - 50
4) John Conteh - 40
5) Loyd Honeyghan - 36
6) Naseem Hamed - 32
7) Nigel Benn - 26
7) Jimmy Wilde - 26
9) Chris Eubank - 25
10) Robert Fitzsimmons - 20

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Re: Britains top 10 greatest ever boxers

Posted: 18 Aug 2009, 09:52
by DG.
Horse wrote:
G0mez wrote:Calzaghe top 5 in everyone's lists?
He wasn't in my top 5.
But I bet Scott Harrison is?


:lol:


:TU:

Re: Britains top 10 greatest ever boxers

Posted: 18 Aug 2009, 09:55
by Captain Hook
Only one person voted for Howard Winstone in the top 10? Surely he's a certainty in anyone's list? Especially if McKenzie and co are being mentioned.