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who has had the better carrer - Jeff Lacy or Carl Froch

Posted: 16 Aug 2009, 14:26
by josh fg
Strange question I know but they both turned pro within a year of each other both of them having good ameter credentials and both are the same age.

Lacy won his title in his 17th fight which was pretty special then went on to win 5 title fights unitl he lost vs Calzaghe the best fighter around at the time. He has since mixed in high profile company and beaten some and lost others,

Froch didn't win a title until his 24th fight but has arguably had both his title fights against better fighters than Lacy defended his IBF title against.

To this point who do you think has had a better carrer?

Re: who has had the better carrer - Jeff Lacy or Carl Froch

Posted: 16 Aug 2009, 14:34
by banjo
Froch

Re: who has had the better carrer - Jeff Lacy or Carl Froch

Posted: 16 Aug 2009, 14:38
by Horse
With wins over Pascal and Taylor, I would say that Froch has achieved more.

What was Lacy's best win?

Re: who has had the better carrer - Jeff Lacy or Carl Froch

Posted: 16 Aug 2009, 14:41
by hitman_hatton1
yeah froch already clinches it.

Re: who has had the better carrer - Jeff Lacy or Carl Froch

Posted: 16 Aug 2009, 14:48
by alexpaterson
Froch definetly, World Champion has been in 2 great fights at world level winning both and beating the well respected Jermain Taylor whereas Lacy has been showing up at world level and Froch hasnt :TU:

Re: who has had the better carrer - Jeff Lacy or Carl Froch

Posted: 16 Aug 2009, 14:50
by josh fg
How would people feel about this assesment if Froch lost his next one, I think they are about on a par at the moment where as if he wins another good one he'll have over taken Lacy, Lacy did defend his title against high level opponents.

Re: who has had the better carrer - Jeff Lacy or Carl Froch

Posted: 16 Aug 2009, 14:51
by hitman_hatton1
josh fg wrote:How would people feel about this assesment if Froch lost his next one, I think they are about on a par at the moment where as if he wins another good one he'll have over taken Lacy, Lacy did defend his title against high level opponents.
when he loses his next one. :D

Re: who has had the better carrer - Jeff Lacy or Carl Froch

Posted: 16 Aug 2009, 15:37
by Horse
josh fg wrote:Lacy did defend his title against high level opponents.
Did he? His opponents don't look very impressive on paper, not the ones he beat anyway.

Did Lacy beat anyone on the level of Pascal or Taylor? I don't think that he did.

Re: who has had the better carrer - Jeff Lacy or Carl Froch

Posted: 16 Aug 2009, 16:30
by whiskey
They both fought Taylor and Froch stopped him wheras Lacy lost every round.

Froch stopped a well trained, but past it Reid, quicker than Lacy did (when Lacy was at 'his peak' wheras Froch had just recovered from ACL surgery) - and he stopped him proper.

Brian Magee stopped Lacy as an amateur. Froch was the first/ only person to KO Magee cold.

But i bet Lacy has earned more money. Shaw did a grand job of over selling him to the masses.

Re: who has had the better carrer - Jeff Lacy or Carl Froch

Posted: 16 Aug 2009, 16:38
by alexpaterson
G0mez wrote:They both fought Taylor and Froch stopped him wheras Lacy lost every round.

Froch stopped a well trained, but past it Reid, quicker than Lacy did (when Lacy was at 'his peak' wheras Froch had just recovered from ACL surgery) - and he stopped him proper.

Brian Magee stopped Lacy as an amateur. Froch was the first/ only person to KO Magee cold.

But i bet Lacy has earned more money. Shaw did a grand job of over selling him to the masses.
Broke it down nicely there Froch has done more in boxing

Re: who has had the better carrer - Jeff Lacy or Carl Froch

Posted: 16 Aug 2009, 17:05
by opticald
Poor topic. It's almost a rhetorical question. Froch easy.

Re: who has had the better carrer - Jeff Lacy or Carl Froch

Posted: 16 Aug 2009, 17:14
by Horse
opticald wrote:Poor topic. It's almost a rhetorical question. Froch easy.
You are not a very respectful person are you?

Re: who has had the better carrer - Jeff Lacy or Carl Froch

Posted: 16 Aug 2009, 17:16
by banjo
Horse wrote:
opticald wrote:Poor topic. It's almost a rhetorical question. Froch easy.
You are not a very respectful person are you?
He's not wrong though.

Re: who has had the better carrer - Jeff Lacy or Carl Froch

Posted: 16 Aug 2009, 17:22
by Horse
banjo wrote:He's not wrong though.
There is no need to be a dick about it though.

Re: who has had the better carrer - Jeff Lacy or Carl Froch

Posted: 16 Aug 2009, 17:38
by Hagler2002
Horse wrote:
banjo wrote:He's not wrong though.
There is no need to be a dick about it though.
I only see one person been a dick about things here :roll:

Re: who has had the better carrer - Jeff Lacy or Carl Froch

Posted: 16 Aug 2009, 17:39
by Horse
Hagler2002 wrote:I only see one person been a dick about things here :roll:
Me?

Re: who has had the better carrer - Jeff Lacy or Carl Froch

Posted: 16 Aug 2009, 18:25
by josh fg
In fairness I thought there would be more debate about it and suspect the poll would come out differently were it on the current scene

Re: who has had the better carrer - Jeff Lacy or Carl Froch

Posted: 16 Aug 2009, 18:46
by Horse
josh fg wrote:In fairness I thought there would be more debate about it and suspect the poll would come out differently were it on the current scene
Are you going to redo it for the current scene?

Re: who has had the better carrer - Jeff Lacy or Carl Froch

Posted: 16 Aug 2009, 18:48
by josh fg
Yeah why not!

Re: who has had the better carrer - Jeff Lacy or Carl Froch

Posted: 16 Aug 2009, 18:51
by stujones
Its almost like whose had the better career- Tony Ayalia or Alan Minter. Lacy looked great in 2005, showing far more potential than Froch has done... but really against shot fighters - and his struggles with Sheika and Vanderpol were more realistic of his talent, then blow out wins over Reid and Pemberton... excellent call by Glen McCory there - one of the few times he stuck his neck out and said Calzaghe will beat Lacy easy - and that was after Lacy blew away Pemberton.

Excellent hype job, but no real substance. Froch isn't a great champion, but he is a solid dependable champion with better wins and equal wins done in as good fashion.

Froch for sure.

Re: who has had the better carrer - Jeff Lacy or Carl Froch

Posted: 16 Aug 2009, 20:13
by crusader
Anyone who votes for Lacy either has a problem with Froch or is a Lacy fan. Froch has clearly beaten better opponents in Pascal and Taylor than anyone Lacy has ever defeated. His four title defenses were against fringe contenders.

If the question was "Who was supposed to have the better career" it wouldve been Lacy.

THE NEXT COMING OF TYSON!!!!

Re: who has had the better carrer - Jeff Lacy or Carl Froch

Posted: 17 Aug 2009, 08:41
by Nightmare Roy
I think Froch will go on to achieve more, there is a very strong argument that he allreay has, but at the end of the day, a pro career is about earning money and Lacy must have earned well over £5 million, will froch? Only time will tell.

Re: who has had the better carrer - Jeff Lacy or Carl Froch

Posted: 17 Aug 2009, 09:07
by doctorboxing
Lacy did do one thing that Froch couldn't, get a fight with Calzaghe :lol:

Re: who has had the better carrer - Jeff Lacy or Carl Froch

Posted: 17 Aug 2009, 09:16
by banjo
doctorboxing wrote:Lacy did do one thing that Froch couldn't, get a fight with Calzaghe :lol:
That's because Lacy had a promoter.

Re: who has had the better carrer - Jeff Lacy or Carl Froch

Posted: 17 Aug 2009, 15:17
by gemmell
josh fg wrote:Strange question I know but they both turned pro within a year of each other both of them having good ameter credentials and both are the same age.

Lacy won his title in his 17th fight which was pretty special then went on to win 5 title fights unitl he lost vs Calzaghe the best fighter around at the time. He has since mixed in high profile company and beaten some and lost others,

Froch didn't win a title until his 24th fight but has arguably had both his title fights against better fighters than Lacy defended his IBF title against.

To this point who do you think has had a better carrer?
very very stupid question!!! it's too obvious froch defo