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Whats happening with haymakers boxers

Posted: 27 Aug 2009, 15:58
by bigdaddy
Whats happening with groves and big david price........

Re: Whats happening with haymakers boxers

Posted: 27 Aug 2009, 16:15
by Horse
Can't Hayemaker just sign with Sky?

Would Sky not want them?

Re: Whats happening with haymakers boxers

Posted: 28 Aug 2009, 02:40
by Poncey
Thought they signed with Sky already?

Re: Whats happening with haymakers boxers

Posted: 28 Aug 2009, 05:17
by slapbangwhallop
Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:Thought they signed with Sky already?
why havent they been farmed out to other promotions whilst a TV deal is sorted. For instance Martin Lindsay would be a very welcome addition to the undercard of the Poonsawat fight.

Re: Whats happening with haymakers boxers

Posted: 28 Aug 2009, 15:43
by dazzer
a non tv show in early oct @ york hall, george groves headlines

Re: Whats happening with haymakers boxers

Posted: 28 Aug 2009, 18:27
by fatman
seems like political bollox to me, Price not doing much when the lesser Fury is getting regular fights.

Re: Whats happening with haymakers boxers

Posted: 28 Aug 2009, 18:57
by Hardcase
fatman wrote:seems like political bollox to me, Price not doing much when the lesser Fury is getting regular fights.
The lesser Fury???
Fury is head and shoulders the better prospcet

He has a chin

Re: Whats happening with haymakers boxers

Posted: 28 Aug 2009, 20:02
by fatman
fair enough, in my opinion though Price is a better prospect than Fury, better amatuer pedigree.

Re: Whats happening with haymakers boxers

Posted: 28 Aug 2009, 20:17
by gobbles
Hardcase wrote:
fatman wrote:seems like political bollox to me, Price not doing much when the lesser Fury is getting regular fights.
The lesser Fury???
Fury is head and shoulders the better prospcet

He has a chin

When has Fury proved he has a chin? He is yet to fight anyone who has punched him back. Don't buy all the hype.

Price got knocked out by the Olympic and world champion, hardly a disgrace. He is also the hardest punching fighter in Britain.

Re: Whats happening with haymakers boxers

Posted: 29 Aug 2009, 04:42
by twenty six
Horse,
Your naivity is astounding.
"Just sign with Sky" like they hand out contracts like confetti.
Grow up.
Sky have Maloney, Hearn, Wazza (or at least that is the rumour)and Hatton.
There are only so many dates to fill.
Do they need anyone else ?
EPNG,
David Haye has signed with Sky, not Hayemaker Promotions.
Sligo,
Since the Setanta crash we have been in the unofficial close season. Things are hotting up with fights being arranged for the new season.
Maybe there will be an element of Co Promotion involving Hayemaker fighters. Who knows ?

Re: Whats happening with haymakers boxers

Posted: 29 Aug 2009, 05:38
by slapbangwhallop
twenty six wrote:Horse,
Your naivity is astounding.
"Just sign with Sky" like they hand out contracts like confetti.
Grow up.
Sky have Maloney, Hearn, Wazza (or at least that is the rumour)and Hatton.
There are only so many dates to fill.
Do they need anyone else ?
EPNG,
David Haye has signed with Sky, not Hayemaker Promotions.
Sligo,
Since the Setanta crash we have been in the unofficial close season. Things are hotting up with fights being arranged for the new season.
Maybe there will be an element of Co Promotion involving Hayemaker fighters. Who knows ?
this aint about co promiting - this is about keeping yer fighters active during a crucial time in their career whilst they sort a deal out.

Peters has no problem "farming out" McCloskey - why would Hayemaker have a problem farming Lindsay out to Peters (or others) - the Dunne fight is going to be live and primetime on Irish terrestrial TV and free legal stream around the world - I would say that is an ideal opportunity to give Lindsay the exposure that he deserves and will never get even on SKY.

I am not as niave to think that its a difficult and precarious conundrum to make happen but sometimes they have to bite the bullet for the good of their boxers over the good of their company.

Re: Whats happening with haymakers boxers

Posted: 29 Aug 2009, 07:46
by twenty six
Sligo,
Who says Hayemaker has a problem with fighters working with other Promotors ?
Craig Watson has just featured on a Hatton show, Rhodes fights in October on a Maloney show.
How do you know that an Irish Promotor would be interested in helping Lindsay out ?
What's in it for them ?
I can tell you now, if a good fight was offered to Lindsay today by ANY Promotor, at the right purse, Hayemaker would not stand in the fighter's way, provided that Promotor did not seek options.

Re: Whats happening with haymakers boxers

Posted: 29 Aug 2009, 08:58
by slapbangwhallop
twenty six wrote:Sligo,
Who says Hayemaker has a problem with fighters working with other Promotors ?
Craig Watson has just featured on a Hatton show, Rhodes fights in October on a Maloney show.
How do you know that an Irish Promotor would be interested in helping Lindsay out ?
What's in it for them ?
I can tell you now, if a good fight was offered to Lindsay today by ANY Promotor, at the right purse, Hayemaker would not stand in the fighter's way, provided that Promotor did not seek options.
good point and fair enough. I'll leave it at that then.

Re: Whats happening with haymakers boxers

Posted: 29 Aug 2009, 09:05
by Horse
twenty six wrote:Horse,
Your naivity is astounding.
"Just sign with Sky" like they hand out contracts like confetti.
Grow up.
Sky have Maloney, Hearn, Wazza (or at least that is the rumour)and Hatton.
There are only so many dates to fill.
Do they need anyone else ?
In my post I asked "Would Sky not want them?", so I have already admitted the possibility that Sky aren't handing contracts out like confetti.

I don't see why you chose to be so insulting towards me. I thought that Sky would be interested in signing up the Hayemaker stable as they have some good fighters, am I wrong about that?

Re: Whats happening with haymakers boxers

Posted: 29 Aug 2009, 12:42
by twenty six
Nothing to do with whether they have a strong stable or otherwise.
Sky have dates to fill, Promotors already signed.
It's that simple.
Can you not read what I posted ?
Let me ask you a simple question.
Would Sky not have made an offer for Hayemaker at the same time as signing David Haye if they were interested ?
As for my "insulting" behaviour that may have something to do with your condescending posts particularly with regard to your excellent rankings.
Assuming of course I have been insulting.

Re: Whats happening with haymakers boxers

Posted: 29 Aug 2009, 12:46
by whiskey
gobbles wrote:

When has Fury proved he has a chin? He is yet to fight anyone who has punched him back. Don't buy all the hype.

Price got knocked out by the Olympic and world champion, hardly a disgrace. He is also the hardest punching fighter in Britain.
How is he the 'hardest puncher in Britain' ?

Re: Whats happening with haymakers boxers

Posted: 29 Aug 2009, 13:14
by Horse
twenty six wrote:Nothing to do with whether they have a strong stable or otherwise.
Sky have dates to fill, Promotors already signed.
It's that simple.
How many dates would Hayemaker want? Do Sky have an annual allowance for boxing dates that is unchangeable?
twenty six wrote:Can you not read what I posted ?
What exactly do you feel that I have not read?
twenty six wrote:Let me ask you a simple question.
Would Sky not have made an offer for Hayemaker at the same time as signing David Haye if they were interested?
When did they sign Haye? How would I know whether Sky did make an offer or not? Perhaps Haye turned them down.
twenty six wrote:As for my "insulting" behaviour that may have something to do with your condescending posts particularly with regard to your excellent rankings.
Assuming of course I have been insulting.
twenty six wrote:Your naivity is astounding..... Grow up.
I think that most people would consider that insulting. I try not to condescend people when I respond to posts in my British P4P rankings, but if I disagree with them, then I will say so.

I don't rate Ryan Rhodes very highly, that seems to be why you have a problem with me. I think that is pretty sad.

Re: Whats happening with haymakers boxers

Posted: 29 Aug 2009, 13:58
by twenty six
Perhaps my dislike of you has more to do with you asking people for their opinions on your rankings, then totally diregarding them and basically saying they're my rankings I do as I please.
Perhaps my dislike of you has more to do with your total disdain of respected posters who put forward a great case for the inclusion of a certain Cruiserweight but YOU decided the definition of British.
Perhaps my dislike of you has more to do with your inclusion of retired boxers in your rankings, despite respected posters putting forward legitimate reasons why they should be.
Perhaps ........
But then again, perhaps it's me who's an arsehole.
Either way, I'm not worried.

Re: Whats happening with haymakers boxers

Posted: 29 Aug 2009, 14:57
by Horse
twenty six wrote:Perhaps my dislike of you has more to do with you asking people for their opinions on your rankings, then totally diregarding them and basically saying they're my rankings I do as I please.
Perhaps my dislike of you has more to do with your total disdain of respected posters who put forward a great case for the inclusion of a certain Cruiserweight but YOU decided the definition of British.
Perhaps my dislike of you has more to do with your inclusion of retired boxers in your rankings, despite respected posters putting forward legitimate reasons why they should be.
Perhaps ........
But then again, perhaps it's me who's an arsehole.
Either way, I'm not worried.
Perhaps, you shouldn't let your dislike for me influence you to write rambling posts like this.

Re: Whats happening with haymakers boxers

Posted: 29 Aug 2009, 15:13
by twenty six
It doesn't.
You asked the questions, I answered.

Re: Whats happening with haymakers boxers

Posted: 29 Aug 2009, 15:26
by Spud
I hope Hayemaker and their boxers get another break - however Hayemaker have to be prepared to put on what many other promoters do in this country and that is put on regular non TV shows.

Hayemaker Boxing is not just about David Haye - its also about the other boxers signed to the promotional company.

I hope Hayemake survives this present lean time they are having - I know Adam Booth, Dave Coldwell and David Haye - they care deeply about their boxers - unfortunately due to the demise of Setanta they will now have to do what Hennessy Sports did and that is dig deep into the pockets until the next break comes along.

Re: Whats happening with haymakers boxers

Posted: 29 Aug 2009, 15:37
by Horse
twenty six wrote:It doesn't.
You asked the questions, I answered.
Your post did not answer any questions that I asked.

Re: Whats happening with haymakers boxers

Posted: 29 Aug 2009, 15:53
by twenty six
I'm not playing out anymore.
I'm watching Meet The Fockers.

Re: Whats happening with haymakers boxers

Posted: 29 Aug 2009, 16:01
by MightyWarrior
gobbles wrote: When has Fury proved he has a chin?

He landed a nice uppercut on his own chin once, when he missed the other guy, and seemed to take it fairly well. Or maybe he just doesn't punch that hard?
Good job he didn't knock himself out, though the Hennessey press release would've been a good read if he had.

Re: Whats happening with haymakers boxers

Posted: 29 Aug 2009, 16:28
by neil hibbert
hayemaker have a non tv show for october so presume most of there fighters will be on that!!