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I don't think that 'lacklustered' is an actual word, but Duke McKenzie has said it at least 4 times tonight.

Is it a real word? If it isn't shouldn't someone tell Duke?

Haha, I was wondering whether or not to do a "FAO: Duke McKenzie" topic. :P

Duke, it's "lacklustre"!

mrrocco wrote:Baeey McGuigan also said Lacksadaisical - isn't it 'lackadaisical'????

You're right. That word is said incorrectly more than correctly! Including by me, until now (not that I've actually ever used it).

http://alysonklein.blogspot.com/2009/03 ... -word.html

It´s hard to put into actual words how shit O´Donnell is. And I know he´ll be proud of winning a 12 round decision afterwards.

LOL what a BS stoppage.

Terrible card. I taught O' Meara's fight was a draw, Purdy / Mc Donagh was a nice fight but O' Donnell / Glover was a beatdown.

Horse wrote:I don't think that 'lacklustered' is an actual word, but Duke McKenzie has said it at least 4 times tonight.

Is it a real word? If it isn't shouldn't someone tell Duke?

hahaha

didn't get that one but lacklustrely had me scratching my head.......it is a word but not lacklustred I don't think.

Glover for all his willingness and conditioning just doesn't seem to have the talent to throw a powerful shot, just seems to swing a bit.....great balls don't get me wrong.......my point being, just makes me question what he was doing in there.

If we're going to nitpick though I wish somebody would tell that novelty value Canadian that "now" and "at this time" mean the same fckin thing.

Nowt against the lad personally but it stinks that in a fr*gging recession with record dole figures a Canadian comes over and gets himself a plum job like that.....good on the lad.

I did get a bit worried when Duke said "I expect they'll give each other a kiss and a hug later"

Old bones Ian wrote:I did get a bit worried when Duke said "I expect they'll give each other a kiss and a hug later"

I thought that was a bit odd, too.

well we don't know what they're saying in the corner Duke........

well it's lucky John that I speak fluent Russian/ Bulgarian/ French..........gets me every single time

I like Duke a lot.

But it's become the fashion these days to have ex-sportsmen and women presenting and some aren't the best. Sometimes a professional journo/broadcaster is miles better. Usually, in fact. As colour they're fine.

And look at Buncey's point on another thread - the combined annual wages of the ITV presenting team equates to the whole cost of EIGHT shows!

Look at the BBC's athletics coverage. Almost exclusively ex-Olympics and/or world champs but the best by far is Stuart Storey.

Colin Jackson actually commented at an indoor meet that the athlete 'used the downhillness of the track'.

Jesus.

The word is 'lacklustre' of course. Another common mistake creeping into the language is the use of the word 'coruscating' as being critical or really damning. It means, in simple terms, shiny (or, metaphorically, clever). Tits are getting it mixed up with 'excoriating'.

Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:
Look at the BBC's athletics coverage. Almost exclusively ex-Olympics and/or world champs but the best by far is Stuart Storey.

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The BBC athletics commentators are terrible in my opinion. paul dickenson, stuary storey, just an irritating experience listening to their drivel. In fact, BBC sports commentators are awful in general. Has anyone had the pleasure of watching an outer court Wimbledon match with Barry Davies at the helm? Apparently noone told him you have to actually say things. plus John Motson, Peter Alliss, david mercer, and so on. bbc loves their old farts talking crap when it comes to sports. compare this bunch of clowns to the likes of clive tyldesley, martin tyler, ian darke, etc. Any of the faceless others on ad-supported tv, professional, knowledgeable and just piss all over the old guard represented by the bbc.

This has turned into somewhat of a rant but i'm sure people see what I'm getting at here.

Completely disagree. Younger commentators tend to talk far too much. You can see what's happening, ffs. Barry Davies is an outstanding commentator.

On Maradona's second goal versus England in WC '86 - 'You have to say, that's brilliant.' Aye, he HAD to say it. He didn't fecking want to though.

And on England's hockey players when they notched against the Germans 'And where were the Germans? But quite frankly, who cares?' Class.

Motty is utter shite though, massively overrated. Peter Alliss is definitely marmite - but I think he's great.

Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:Completely disagree. Younger commentators tend to talk far too much. You can see what's happening, ffs. Barry Davies is an outstanding commentator.

On Maradona's second goal versus England in WC '86 - 'You have to say, that's brilliant.' Aye, he HAD to say it. He didn't fecking want to though.

The reason he didn't want to is because he's not used to talking in general. If you want endless platitudes like the one above, ham fisted analogies and not much in the way of actual knowledge, bbc is great. To be fair to Barry he's probably slowed down a lot over the years. The poor old fart is probably asleep for most of the scant coverage of random crap he gets given these days. Although to be fair you can't blame him considering he's probably watching Jurgen Meltzer's intriguing second round tie vs David Nalbandian on Court 15.

Peter Alliss is definitely marmite - but I think he's great.

He's great in a sort of 'embarrassing grandad with archaic sense of humour' sort of way, but again that's not really a quality I look for in a commentator.

Plus I don't think modern commentators talk too much, or if they do, it's born of a confidence in their knowledge of the sport they're covering. When you're watching bbc commentary, there's always an impression they'd rather say nothing than make a further tit of themselves. Motson seems to be going down fighting though, refusing to give in to the 'omission rather than commission' rule of BBC patter, getting names wrong, mixing his metaphors and generally highlighting the need for a sports commentator upheaval at the beeb.

Yep I heard Duke keep saying lacklustred, silly man was getting on my nerves too haha.

I think Brendon Foster and Steve Cram are very listenable-to, and insightful.

I can get away with Colin (is he? isn't he?) Jacko, and I think Michael Johnson is a quality pundit, doesn't misplace a word. I think 90% of the licence fee goes on Johnson's wage.....it has to be, can you imagine what he's turning down state-side, to come and work for the Beeb?

There's one guy who does England games and the like for ITV and I really don't like him much....I forget the name.

NorthEastBoxingFan wrote:I think Brendon Foster and Steve Cram are very listenable-to, and insightful.

Absolutely - both are very good IMO.

NorthEastBoxingFan wrote: I think Michael Johnson is a quality pundit, doesn't misplace a word. I think 90% of the licence fee goes on Johnson's wage.....it has to be, can you imagine what he's turning down state-side, to come and work for the Beeb?

From my understanding Johnson is not revered and held in the same esteem Stateside that we hold him in here in the UK.

I reckon his is very glad to get all the assignments that the BBC give him TBH.

Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:Completely disagree. Younger commentators tend to talk far too much. You can see what's happening, ffs. Barry Davies is an outstanding commentator.

On Maradona's second goal versus England in WC '86 - 'You have to say, that's brilliant.' Aye, he HAD to say it. He didn't fecking want to though.

And on England's hockey players when they notched against the Germans 'And where were the Germans? But quite frankly, who cares?' Class.

Motty is utter shite though, massively overrated. Peter Alliss is definitely marmite - but I think he's great.

yeah bazza's a ledge.

he perfectly summed up southgate's miss in euro 96 as well.

"oooooohhhhhhhh nnnoooooooo" :(

the bbc's athletics team is second to none.

shame the same thing can't be said about team GB.

Riddick Blowe wrote:Plus I don't think modern commentators talk too much, or if they do, it's born of a confidence in their knowledge of the sport they're covering.

I'd say it comes from being brought up in an age where they think more is better - and it isn't. Look at SS News for example - you get about five things to look at whilst the silly bastards rattle on - and this is reflected in commentaries too.

How would you have expected a commentator to approach the farcical but sad scenes when Jean van de Velde blew the Open? I thought Alliss did a great job.

But hey, it's all about opinions.

I used to say the word worser a lot when i was young. eg that cut is a lot worser then it was. Untill someone pointed out that isn't a word. Mcguigan said a new word when he was previewing jones - calzaghe. I can't remember what word it was but it was funny. Steve698 was with me so he might remember.

REAL_DEAL wrote:I used to say the word worser a lot when i was young. eg that cut is a lot worser then it was. Untill someone pointed out that isn't a word. Mcguigan said a new word when he was previewing jones - calzaghe. I can't remember what word it was but it was funny. Steve698 was with me so he might remember.

How come you never use the phrase, "It's all right lads, I'll get this round."?

Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote: Look at SS News for example - you get about five things to look at whilst the silly bastards rattle on

I have started a very eloquent thread on this very subject in Other Sports, which has annoyed me for some time.

it's entitled: Sky Sports News B*tches, why I can't take them seriously..

hitman_hatton1 wrote:

Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:Completely disagree. Younger commentators tend to talk far too much. You can see what's happening, ffs. Barry Davies is an outstanding commentator.

On Maradona's second goal versus England in WC '86 - 'You have to say, that's brilliant.' Aye, he HAD to say it. He didn't fecking want to though.

And on England's hockey players when they notched against the Germans 'And where were the Germans? But quite frankly, who cares?' Class.

Motty is utter shite though, massively overrated. Peter Alliss is definitely marmite - but I think he's great.

yeah bazza's a ledge.

he perfectly summed up southgate's miss in euro 96 as well.

"oooooohhhhhhhh nnnoooooooo" :(

the bbc's athletics team is second to none.

shame the same thing can't be said about team GB.

My point would be, a lot of people could sit in the commentary box and say 'ooohhhhh noooooo!' or 'You have to say, that's brilliant!'. A lot could say it in a more endearing or amusing tone, perhaps, if that's what the Great British public wants from a commentator.

I believe in these guys having to earn their money, however, and if you're in the sports commentary game, thankfully, it is starting to pay to know your onions. This doesn't mean the new generation of commentary is necessarily obtrusive. I don't think there'll be many in here who take exception to someone like Clive Tyldesley or Ian Darke, guys who continually strike the right balance of knowledge and restraint, and sort of set the benchmark for a new standard of commentary. Can people not see the difference? Is it just me?

By the way I agree that Brendan Foster and Steve Cram are excellent - but Stuart Storey and the guy who used to do World's strongest man are firmly in the 'BBC old guard' brigade.

I take exception to Clive Tyldesley, because he just will not shut up. His little quips aren't funny, and his tendency to get all excitable, and make out that every cross, no matter how weak, has the defence scrambling is annoying as well. On the plus side, he has toned down his references to 'that night in Barcelona' a little now.


I'm firmly with Ian on this, less is more. I can see what's happening, I don't need to have the commentary team constantly yapping.

Ian Darke? Not sure how he qualifies as one of the 'newer' brigade...he's been doing it for more than 20 years!