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mike holden- ready for prizefighter?

Posted: 05 Sep 2009, 16:08
by mahatma
after watching last nights fight on sky i say no , he was lucky to survive that knockdown, looked out of shape and slow, which is to be expected after 6 year lay off, does anyone know when the board will decide if he is allowed to fight

Re: mike holden- ready for prizefighter?

Posted: 05 Sep 2009, 16:51
by sweetscience
sack him off and get cliff clouser in

Re: mike holden- ready for prizefighter?

Posted: 05 Sep 2009, 16:54
by landon
whos training him joe gallagher i thought joe would of told him to quit after that performance

Re: mike holden- ready for prizefighter?

Posted: 05 Sep 2009, 18:03
by stujones
How about that fighter, I think he was from Iraq (or Iran) trains with Jimmy Tibbs... Tall, lanky. Looks better than he is.

Re: mike holden- ready for prizefighter?

Posted: 06 Sep 2009, 06:41
by leforge
Larry should step up and take the chance!

Re: mike holden- ready for prizefighter?

Posted: 06 Sep 2009, 07:07
by Spud
Michael Holden is a top man - but he is too old in my view to bo at the top end of domestic level.

Re: mike holden- ready for prizefighter?

Posted: 06 Sep 2009, 07:46
by alexpaterson
I'd like to see Daniel Peret in it as Holden looked poor on Friday and looks as if he wont last a round against the big names in the Prizefighter

Re: mike holden- ready for prizefighter?

Posted: 06 Sep 2009, 09:16
by TheCobra
Agreed he looked poor and I would fear for him against most of the people in the competition. But he's an Ashton lad so get him in I say!

Re: mike holden- ready for prizefighter?

Posted: 06 Sep 2009, 10:45
by chris s
He looked dangerously gone against a fighter who was about 4-30. It is up to the BBB of C, and although he has no chance in Prizefighter you would say the same about Hughes and Belshaw.

I like to think his trainer would tell him there is nothing left.

Re: mike holden- ready for prizefighter?

Posted: 06 Sep 2009, 11:50
by exittored
I would have been willing to give Holden the benefit of doubt before Fridays fight but being knocked down and nearly stopped by a 4-20 journeyman is just not acceptable even for something like PrizeFighter and every Fighter in the competition should at least have some chance of winning.

Also i think the same could be said for Scott Belshaw, yes he's 6ft 7in and only 24yrs old but the way he capitulated against Tyson Fury only points to him having no real chance of going beyond the 1st Rd.

I dont mind Coleman Barret or Danny Hughes being in the competition, i doubt they are going to get past the 1st round but at least they are young hungry unbeaten Fighters so there's that factor that one of them may emerge as a future star in the same way Martin Rogan did.

If i had to replace HOLDEN and BELSHAW and was being realistic, i'd go for one for the following:

Mark Krence - a good solid domestic fighter, probably retired but if he was in shape would make for an interesting 1st rd fight

War Machine - Even another defeat wouldn't be too bad a thing at this stage of his career plus if he was matched with Audley in the 1st rd, would have a chance of Glory.

Denetrice King - http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hu ... &cat=boxer
A very tough American Journeyman who i'm sure would jump at the chance to be in a competition like this at short notice.

Re: mike holden- ready for prizefighter?

Posted: 06 Sep 2009, 12:02
by leforge
War Machine, or Chris Burton will be better!

Re: mike holden- ready for prizefighter?

Posted: 06 Sep 2009, 14:52
by mahatma
spud is right and mike is a great guy, who is friendly and modest as they come but think the board should step in and say no due to inactivity,its not worth him getting hurt.
Hes had some great nights and been a british champion, id hate to see someone like audley do him in a round

Re: mike holden- ready for prizefighter?

Posted: 06 Sep 2009, 15:10
by Londonirish
stujones wrote:How about that fighter, I think he was from Iraq (or Iran) trains with Jimmy Tibbs... Tall, lanky. Looks better than he is.

Is it Ali Adams you mean? He is trained by Johnny Eames..

From what i hear Sky wants him in, as they see it Entertaining with more Knock Out....

Re: mike holden- ready for prizefighter?

Posted: 06 Sep 2009, 15:30
by overhand_right
Holden in his day was just an average domestic level journeyman - yes he nicked a narrow points nod over a fat depressed Francis to unfeasibly become a British champ, but Francis also beat him twice - and Michael Murray, Harry Senior, Keith Long and Sprotty all beat him fair and square, whilst Skelton absolutely hammered him.

He's just a shot version of a boxer who wasn't much in his day, a decade ago.

Re: mike holden- ready for prizefighter?

Posted: 06 Sep 2009, 15:41
by leforge
I don't think he be allowed by the board, so who are the contenders:

Larry Olubamwio
Derek Chisora is his ban up
Chris Burton beaten finalist
Tom Dallas

Who else do you suggest?

Re: mike holden- ready for prizefighter?

Posted: 06 Sep 2009, 15:59
by standing8
Sadly,I was sat ringside,Mike was all over the place and should have been stopped,what he blurtted out,would have been enough for me to wave it off!

Re: mike holden- ready for prizefighter?

Posted: 06 Sep 2009, 17:09
by rhino222
leforge wrote:I don't think he be allowed by the board, so who are the contenders:

Larry Olubamwio
Derek Chisora is his ban up
Chris Burton beaten finalist
Tom Dallas

Who else do you suggest?
chirosa does not deserve the opportunity, he disgraced himself !!

Re: mike holden- ready for prizefighter?

Posted: 06 Sep 2009, 17:13
by leforge
I think it be good to see Chisora in it. Also who will be reserves?

Re: mike holden- ready for prizefighter?

Posted: 06 Sep 2009, 22:34
by Tommy Gunn13
mrrocco wrote:You're no doubt right......but he has a bit of a name..


I would rather see Dominic NEgus myself - good story!
Dominic Negus??? why??? average boxer&thug so i hear...please explain....

Re: mike holden- ready for prizefighter?

Posted: 07 Sep 2009, 04:51
by oliverfennell
boxrec wrote:
sweetscience wrote:sack him off and get cliff clouser in
He'd do it. Hearns company has his details. But would they do it? I think maybe they want to keep it for domestic fighters.
After Cliff's no-show in Australia last weekend, I don't think he'd be worth the risk.

Re: mike holden- ready for prizefighter?

Posted: 07 Sep 2009, 04:56
by oliverfennell
I didn't see the fight, but perhaps Holden will be better having shed a bit of rust?

Let's face it, he was a huge underdog anyway, and as people have said, he wasn't that great even in his prime, but he won't be any worse for having gotten six rounds under his belt before the event.

At least this will stop people from predicting he'll beat Audley, for no other reason than the fact he's a human being whose name isn't Audley Harrison.

Re: mike holden- ready for prizefighter?

Posted: 07 Sep 2009, 05:40
by funso banjo baby
alexpaterson wrote:I'd like to see Daniel Peret in it as Holden looked poor on Friday and looks as if he wont last a round against the big names in the Prizefighter

:roll:

Re: mike holden- ready for prizefighter?

Posted: 07 Sep 2009, 07:47
by chris s
boxrec wrote:If they do actually get rid of holden, maybe....just maybe, perhaps Lee Swaby could have another go, as a returning prizefighter (even though he didn't win, i'm not sure if this has been done before). At least he would have better odds because he's experienced the prizefighter tournament before.....
War Machine would be good even though he would be blowing through his arse after the quarter-finals.

Re: mike holden- ready for prizefighter?

Posted: 07 Sep 2009, 07:55
by stujones
Londonirish wrote:
stujones wrote:How about that fighter, I think he was from Iraq (or Iran) trains with Jimmy Tibbs... Tall, lanky. Looks better than he is.

Is it Ali Adams you mean? He is trained by Johnny Eames..

From what i hear Sky wants him in, as they see it Entertaining with more Knock Out....
Thats right - Johnny Eames.. always getting them mixed up.

Is Eames still his coach. He fought in Europe the same night as a Khan vs Kotelnik (it was on Eurosport) and he looked pretty poor, and Eames seem to be implying that he can find a new coach during the fight.

Re: mike holden- ready for prizefighter?

Posted: 07 Sep 2009, 08:09
by funso banjo baby
boxrec wrote:If they do actually get rid of holden, maybe....just maybe, perhaps Lee Swaby could have another go, as a returning prizefighter (even though he didn't win, i'm not sure if this has been done before). At least he would have better odds because he's experienced the prizefighter tournament before.....

fergusson fought in two

i think chris burton would be a great addition

rather holden than belshaw anyday