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A much improved Tyson performance leads to a late stoppage.

it's inappropriate, distasteful.........makes a mockery of the fans, the forum and the sport to predict how a second fight might pan out, only 4 hours after John Mcdermott got shafted in the a*sehole.

Superheavyweight wrote:

exittored wrote:A much improved Tyson performance leads to a late stoppage.

They would have to move it to a bigger arena, that place was packed enough as it is.

Yeah lets take the rematch to Manchester :)

Could McDermott even get himself in the right frame of mind for a rematch? I guess there's the possibilty of revenge, but knowing you're going to have to stop your opponent to beat him and having to go over all the old ground training for Fury again seems like a long way back for McDermott to me. I doubt my heart would be in another training camp if I fought McDermotts fight and heard I'd just lost 98-92.

Superheavyweight wrote:Hence judges for the rematch.

There can't be judges in an English title fight.

They don't need judges anyway they just need a normal referee.

Do you think they will have this rematch before the end of the year?

All you nattering nabobs nashing your teeth over the decision and trying to confine Fury into your tiny domestic world will have a rude awakening if and when the rematch happens.

Poor lad only just turned 21 in time to get some of the fuzz knocked off his peaches, and now he's no better than domestic level confined to the Brit board instead of the Current Scene is he now?

No wonder Haye wanted to flee for the hinterlands of France and Germany. The British domestic heavy scene is complete pants and the fans are certified bonkers. Fury starts off doing what British fans howled for Haye to do, which is to scrap with Skelton, Williams, Audley in ugly domestic fights to prove himself unworthy of no more than domestic quality before being allowed off his leash into the larger world where surely he'd join a long list of horizontal British heavies.

It was never a secret that Fury was gonna struggle against an experienced practitioner who could get inside those long limbs. Big John for all his faults is a pretty fair fringe contender with a 55th boxrec rating going into the fight. Had he properly won the first Williams match that he deserved, perhaps his record might have taken a different turn with a higher ranking, more confidence, more motivation to train with better title solicitations.

Most knew Big John was heavily motivated to keep his belt and school Tyson which he did, but I doubt 10% of you nattering naboobies made so much as a peep supporting McD in the first Williams fight which was his going away. No doubt he's happy you finally showed up at his party, but that was his last slice of his birthday cake. McD's now got a lore about him which he richly deserves, but boxing has usually dismissed fighters of his caliber when convenient as his 32 ratings plunge to a current 87th ranking demonstrates. Harsh, terribly harsh you are.

It's the height of foolishness to think that Fury won't gain immensely from this fight. For a soft lad in his 8th pro fight, he landed his shots and stood in against the heaviest fire yet. He needed a test like this to upgrade his experience, gave the British fans what they always slobber about, and then gets slated like a dog as if he had anything to do with the decision?

Regardless, his career is still in the 80% potential range as he's already proven to be a class above most British heavies just confining him to the isles. His team should grant the rematch which doubtless would hold huge domestic interest that dollars to McDoughnuts Fury wins going away, forever making the first fight a moot point.

He needs a seriously good manager and trainer to prepare for the big stage. The world class potential is there, but the unknown is whether he's got the motivation and mental attributes to make the leap since the history of boxing is fraught with fine talents falling short of the mark in achievements at every level.

I think McDermott showed how Fury could be beat put pressure on and throw lots of right hands I see him doing it again winning on points as he did last night except he will get the result this time

Superheavyweight wrote:

Horse wrote:

Superheavyweight wrote:Hence judges for the rematch.

There can't be judges in an English title fight.

They don't need judges anyway they just need a normal referee.

Wasn’t the Sprott/Harrison fight judged?

Yes but the EU title was on the line aswell and that requires 3 judges.

Its too early for a thread like this. John will have a lot to think about before making any decision. We are talking about his career and how one man has potentially wrecked it. He was in a must win situation before the fight, he did but he didnt get the decision. Lets see if Frank Maloney can do anything.

WildWaylon wrote:Its too early for a thread like this. John will have a lot to think about before making any decision. We are talking about his career and how one man has potentially wrecked it. He was in a must win situation before the fight, he did but he didnt get the decision. Lets see if Frank Maloney can do anything.

How is McDermott's career wrecked? He will still get chances to challenge for domestic titles. This loss is a set back, but not a major one.

the fury circus is exposed

the fans are the usual rabble who just say and think what they are told

they know nothing about boxing


esp on this site..they have the usual agenda


first it was dave howe.......he got iced by a journeyman in his 2nd fight

there was scot belshaw....he was thrown out by his team for not having any fire...was thrown in with tyson fury and folded like a deck of cards

tyson fury has been hyped worse than Audley harrison

hes going nowhere.

its all very silly based on a name !!!!!!! what is this? wrestling

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what

funso banjo baby wrote:the fury circus is exposed

the fans are the usual rabble who just say and think what they are told

they know nothing about boxing


esp on this site..they have the usual agenda


first it was dave howe.......he got iced by a journeyman in his 2nd fight

there was scot belshaw....he was thrown out by his team for not having any fire...was thrown in with tyson fury and folded like a deck of cards

tyson fury has been hyped worse than Audley harrison

hes going nowhere.

its all very silly based on a name !!!!!!! what is this? wrestling

i know about boxing matey boy, it was a bad night for tyson who actually expected mcdermott to fight like that i was expecting him to fight like he did ve reid and williams

I could see Fury beating him in a rematch.

McDermott was a bit exposed too; on re-watching the fight last night I noticed that once he got knackered he just mentally went away. You just wanted him to keep gritting his teeth but he just couldn't summon the effort in those last three rounds (not that he'd have won with the atrocious scoring, but still). It's the best I've seen him fight & I think he's the type of bloke who'll find it hard to match that sort of performance again, whereas Fury surely will know he's in for the long haul & be better prepared.

The second time around, Fury's utter lack of power was shocking & his body language after taking some of those double-jabs & overhand right counters looked a lot like Dimitrenko against Chambers (not a good sign, it looked like he was having his eyes opened & not in a good way).

Fury can improve, he's only a kid still. I'd give him marks for heart, based purely that he made it to the end, when he looked like he wanted out of there.