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Herol Graham - 50 today
Posted: 12 Sep 2009, 19:03
by dondada
One of the most gifted boxers to step through British ropes reaches a big number today:
http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hu ... &cat=boxer
Christ, almost 20 years since that fight in Benalmadena.
By 'today' I mean the 13th, by the way.
Re: Herol Graham - 50 today
Posted: 12 Sep 2009, 23:50
by Floyd
Time sure flys doesn't it. Really thought he would get that elusive title right up till the finish in the Brewer fight. One of my favorites.
Re: Herol Graham - 50 today
Posted: 13 Sep 2009, 04:55
by caffrey
the best brit never to win a world title.he fought in high class throughout aswell.Benn,eubank and watson would nt touch bomber with a barge poll.
best wishes herol

Re: Herol Graham - 50 today
Posted: 13 Sep 2009, 06:35
by Scrap
They woulnt have touched Him with a Handfull of Rice

Re: Herol Graham - 50 today
Posted: 13 Sep 2009, 06:55
by Tommy Gunn13
what a boxer!!!
Happy 50th Bomber

Re: Herol Graham - 50 today
Posted: 13 Sep 2009, 07:21
by neil hibbert
top fella
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Re: Herol Graham - 50 today
Posted: 13 Sep 2009, 07:42
by bigjack
Bomber was responsible for me getting hooked on boxing,he was my all time favourite brit and when he first lost to kalambay i was gutted,he was one of the most avoided and unlucky fighters ever.When he got his title chances he had to fight two of the very best middles around at the time,was taking julian jackson apart until that punch which would have ko'd a horse and would have got a draw against mccallum but lost a point for pushing,so unlucky
Re: Herol Graham - 50 today
Posted: 13 Sep 2009, 08:05
by McCannW14
caffrey wrote:the best brit never to win a world title.he fought in high class throughout aswell.Benn,eubank and watson would nt touch bomber with a barge poll.
best wishes herol

And better than most who did.

Re: Herol Graham - 50 today
Posted: 13 Sep 2009, 15:37
by harrygreb
i tip my hat to the wonderful herol - lets hope the party DOESNT raise the roof, eh herol?
Re: Herol Graham - 50 today
Posted: 13 Sep 2009, 15:47
by hitman_hatton1
bigjack wrote:
Bomber was responsible for me getting hooked on boxing,he was my all time favourite brit and when he first lost to kalambay i was gutted,he was one of the most avoided and unlucky fighters ever.When he got his title chances he had to fight two of the very best middles around at the time,was taking julian jackson apart until that punch which would have ko'd a horse and would have got a draw against mccallum but lost a point for pushing,so unlucky
biggest bullsh*t point deduction ever as well.
in this era he'd have won a world title.
and made a lot of defences.
to think even junior witter can get his grubby mits on one.

Re: Herol Graham - 50 today
Posted: 13 Sep 2009, 16:18
by caffrey
whats he up to nowadays? hope hes well
Re: Herol Graham - 50 today
Posted: 13 Sep 2009, 16:36
by dondada
caffrey wrote:whats he up to nowadays? hope hes well
As I've said a few times, he works as a fitness trainer at a Sheffield gym. Looks well, incredibly fit.
Re: Herol Graham - 50 today
Posted: 13 Sep 2009, 16:49
by Deserter
Always been one of my favourite fighters and I was lucky enough to meet him earlier this year and as Ian said, he's looking incredibly well for his age. Really decent, down-to-earth guy... though I suspect I was a bit too enthusiastic about meeting him as at one point he turned around and said, "You know more about my career than I do!"

Re: Herol Graham - 50 today
Posted: 14 Sep 2009, 05:27
by DavidPayne
I remember travelling on the bus to Donny as a nipper, 2p for me I think 10 p for my mum and Herol's face would beam out from the adverts on the bus telling kids not to graffiti the bus.
That'd be about 84-85 I suppose.
Re: Herol Graham - 50 today
Posted: 14 Sep 2009, 07:51
by T.M.K
Scrap wrote:They woulnt have touched Him with a Handfull of Rice

BRILLIANT!
Had me chuckling for ages - even rang my dad up to tell him that one. He once said to me "I am not the biggest boxing fan in the world, but I could always apprecoate true class in the ring - and Bomber Graham was PURE class"

Re: Herol Graham - 50 today
Posted: 14 Sep 2009, 07:55
by forcefraser
He was a classy fighter, but his chin let him down on the big stage.
Technically very gifted and a nice guy as well. His movement was frightening. Shame he never kept it together in the big fights though, as it`s results that count.
Re: Herol Graham - 50 today
Posted: 14 Sep 2009, 08:39
by THEBUTCH
50? Jees, that makes me feel old

Many happy returns to Bomber (for yesterday).
With regards to the point deduction in the Mike McCallum fight, from memory, Graham "spun" McCallum, as opposed to "turning" him.
Re: Herol Graham - 50 today
Posted: 14 Sep 2009, 09:11
by dondada
forcefraser wrote:He was a classy fighter, but his chin let him down on the big stage.
He didn't have a bad chin at all:
http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hu ... &cat=boxer
He was old and tired when Brewer got him; Frank Grant could really crack (I can't even remember the nature of that stoppage, actually); and Julian Jackson...well that punch would have knocked out a fecking horse.
Actually, maybe his chin wasn't that great...then again I can't really remember seeing him be hit on it very often!
Re: Herol Graham - 50 today
Posted: 14 Sep 2009, 09:14
by Counter-puncher
Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:
Actually, maybe his chin wasn't that great...then again I can't really remember seeing him be hit on it very often!
just about every time it happened- almost all after his 30th birthday i am sure- he was on dodgy-ish legs, as i recall. kalumbay had him out on his feet i think at the end of their second fight?
Re: Herol Graham - 50 today
Posted: 14 Sep 2009, 09:54
by forcefraser
The Jackson punch would have floored anyone, but not everyone would have been hit by it either. He got careless and he got caught.
A good chin for me is being able to take a shot and get the head clear again quickly. Get the legs steadied again.
It is not about getting knocked down. Bruno was never really knocked out or down, but he took some heavy beatings against Smith, Lewis, Witherspoon and Tyson. I would say his chin/defense was dodgy, as when under fire he could not handle it, his defence went and he lost the ability to stay in there.
Calzaghe on the other hand has a rock solid chin. He has been put down on several occasions, but never looked badly shaken.
Re: Herol Graham - 50 today
Posted: 14 Sep 2009, 18:04
by THEBUTCH
Nothing wrong with Graham's chin. In the first Kalambay fight, Herol (by his standards) practically fought with his face and went the full 12 rounds and Kalambay was world class.
Re: Herol Graham - 50 today
Posted: 15 Sep 2009, 11:53
by bad mamma jamma
went to watch him at the city hall vs kalule when he won the euro title, he was majestic that night, will never forget asking my grandad to take me round the market to get a glimpse of him at his jewellry stall, i was only a kid...he was my idol as a little un,...on the downside i sent him a friend request with a short message on facebook last year and he ignored it, the b@stard!!.......seriously, he was a quality fighter
Re: Herol Graham - 50 today
Posted: 19 Sep 2009, 15:49
by harrygreb
no offence mate but i really dont think ignoring your "friend request" on facebook diminishes herol one iota. but its quite amusing

Re: Herol Graham - 50 today
Posted: 19 Sep 2009, 15:51
by Mimmy
DavidPayne wrote:I remember travelling on the bus to Donny as a nipper, 2p for me I think 10 p for my mum and Herol's face would beam out from the adverts on the bus telling kids not to graffiti the bus.
That'd be about 84-85 I suppose.
i remember the 2p bus fares to travelling from Edlo to Donny for 2p
Re: Herol Graham - 50 today
Posted: 20 Sep 2009, 04:19
by josh fg
Herol Graham vs Mick McCallum
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv1kUSBJAXg
Great fighter