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Examples of decent fighters woefully out of their depth

Posted: 13 Sep 2009, 11:08
by FLINT ISLAND
Billy Hardy - blown away by Naseem Hamed.

Paul Lloyd - battered by Marco Anotnio Barrera.

Julius Francis - it was painful to watch him pick himself up off the canvas so many times as he hoplessly took a slow painful beating at the hands of Mike Tyson.

Danny Williams - brave as hell - but brutally outclassed and busted up by Vitali Klitschko

Clinton Woods - tough and brave effort - but no hope of making much dent in prime Roy Jones - as he was systemically broken down by the pound for pound king - credit to Clinton though he emerged from the fight with credit and didnt disgrace himself even though he was throughly outclassed.

Enzo Maccarenelli - pherhaps the most painful example more than all of the above - because unlike the other huge underdogs above who were expected to be totally outclassed - Maccarenelli was hyped up as a world class operator - who was in a 50 / 50 fight with David Haye. The reality was of course - Maccarenelli was more a British / Euro level glassed jawed journeyman - and he had about a 10% chance of winning that fight. A decent fighter at the lower levels but woefully thrown in too deep - not just against Haye in the ring - but the whole massive promotion of the fight - it was a huge event - Evander Holyfield and Frank Bruno and Simon Cowell and Janet Jackson and sharon Stone and Eva Longoria and Pamela Anderson and Jennifer Lopez and Mark Anthony and Bruce Willis and David Beckham and John Terry and Frank Lampard and Paul Daniels and Melaine Sykes and Katie Price and Joe Calzaghe and Emma Jo Larvin and Peter Andre and Cherhyl Cole and Amanda Holden and Kylie Minogue and Ant and Dec and Ashely Cole and Chris Eubank and Amir Khan and Wayne Rooney and Tom Hanks and Derren Brown and Kelly Brook and Liz Hurley and Lily Allen and Andy Murray and Elton John and Claire King and the late Jade Goody (Childhood friend of David Haye went to School together) and Russel Brand and Dizzee Rascal and Tinchy Strider and Jennifer Ellison and Jude Law and Steve Jones and Colleen Rooney and Davina McCall and Joe Cole and Carly Tucker and Sarah Harding and Kim Kardshian and Ian Wright and Bruce Forseyth and Philip Schofield and Jason Stratham and Laila Rouass and Gary Barlow and Paul McCartney and Madonna and Lewis Hamilton and Nicole Scwinzager and Linford Christie and Shaq O Neil and Jay Z and Beyonce Knowles and Mariah Carey and Sean Combs and Whitney Houston and Prince Harry and Chesly Davy and Richard Branson and Philip Green and Kate Moss and Nigel Benn were all in the crowd for the big "event" it transcended boxing and was a massive night out for so many people - they even had ferries shipping people down the London Thames Rivers as even nice women who have no intrest in boxing came to the O2 to see this massive event and
HBO american TV had come over to cover the fight and Lennox Lewis and Steve Cunnigham were wacthing on TV giving their pundit advice to TV stations and everyone was expecting a "super fight" - David Haye was loving it the chance to shine he had never been in a fight so big and was loving the attention of being on the big stage he calmly walked to the ring dancing and smiling and took his time as he soaked in the atmosphere loving the fact that his hero Holyfield was in the crowd and had come to watch him a younger generation fighter now ruling over the division that Holyfield had once ruled - Haye was loving it - not to mention he wasbeing paid a handsome £700,000 - £1,000,000 for his nights "work" Haye had the look of a man calm and assured and looked like he was at ease and was a man for the big occassion but come fight night Maccarenelli was terrified at what he had got himself into and shit himself and ran to the ring and got blasted away and exposed as a journeyman. Woefully outclassed. And I think he could have done alot better had he come into the fight and kept his compsure and been geniunely confident but he was exposed as being "mentally weak" as David Haye said after their stare down at the weigh in - Enzo was stressed his hair was all messed up and he looked like a condemned man as Haye launched powerful fight ending right hands. No wonder Maccarenelli felt complety out of his depth - while Haye had been in glamrous Miami Florida sparring with tough pro heavyweights and the people in the crowd were glamorous successful multi millionares and billionaires from the world of sport showbiz and business and politics and royalty - Maccarenelli had prepared for the fight doing training down the Calzaghe rugby shed doing some light sparring with Bradely Price and Gavin Rees and he could only do that when Rees and Price bothered to turn up for training - the other times Rees and Price would be down the Pub or Playing their computer or something - thats how amateur the Calzaghe Camp are :o




Steve Robinson - painfully beaten to a pulp in a one sided fight against Naseem Hamed

Frans Botha - he had no hope aganist Lennox Lewis.

Re: Examples of decent fighters woefully out of their depth

Posted: 13 Sep 2009, 11:15
by caffrey
gary lockett against kelly pavlik and michael jennings against cotto,two recent examples of british/european level fighters competing against the elite i nworld boxing

Re: Examples of decent fighters woefully out of their depth

Posted: 13 Sep 2009, 11:18
by FLINT ISLAND
Lockett was painfully outclassed - he could have got seriously hurt there.

Same with Maccarenelli - if the ref had not waved the fight off - Haye would have put serious damage on him - it was a good call from the ref - saved his life - and I am being serious - he was so weak at the end - he couldnt raise his gloves - Haye would have had a free shot - and he hits like a pure banger - so it could have been nasty - but the ref made a good call - and didnt let the "superfight" staus effect his decsion to wave it over so qucikly.

Re: Examples of decent fighters woefully out of their depth

Posted: 13 Sep 2009, 11:18
by dkos
Green against Leonard.

Re: Examples of decent fighters woefully out of their depth

Posted: 13 Sep 2009, 11:20
by FLINT ISLAND
dkos wrote:Green against Leonard.
Didnt Davy Moore take a terrible hiding form Roberto Duran ?

Re: Examples of decent fighters woefully out of their depth

Posted: 13 Sep 2009, 11:21
by FLINT ISLAND
I'd say Colin Jones against Don Curry

But Colin didnt disgrace himself by any means - and took all the punchs and was firing back right up until the stoppage

But he was getting hit so accuratley and powerfully - and his nose was nearly sliced off - he was outclassed - but went out like a warrior.

Re: Examples of decent fighters woefully out of their depth

Posted: 13 Sep 2009, 11:22
by n1ebf
FLINT ISLAND I DECLARE YOU AN EMBARRASSMENT SIR.

Saw the title and knew straight away it was you, trolling. Personally I'd kick you off. Your motives are false, you try to mask your agenda (pathetically) by trying to come up with "examples" then write War and Peace on Enzo vs. Haye. That's a big, big book by the way.....bigger than Billy Blue Hat......no, not even Jonathan and Jennifer Yellow Hat...bigger even than that.

Buffoon. :shame:

Re: Examples of decent fighters woefully out of their depth

Posted: 13 Sep 2009, 11:25
by FLINT ISLAND
Barry Jones - he took a terrible pounding from Acelino Freitas but was brave to stay in there until about the 8th round

Re: Examples of decent fighters woefully out of their depth

Posted: 13 Sep 2009, 11:25
by Asterix
Maccarinelli against Lebedev. I thought it was a 50-50 fight, but Maccarinelli was just pummelled. :(

Re: Examples of decent fighters woefully out of their depth

Posted: 13 Sep 2009, 11:26
by FLINT ISLAND
Adrain Dodson - he was unbeaten and looked a solid fighter with World title aspirations - but then he was picthed in against Ronald Wright and that heavy southpaw jab completly bust Dodsons face up and he was retired on his stool after six rounds after being totally outclassed just by Winkys Southpaw Jab.

Re: Examples of decent fighters woefully out of their depth

Posted: 13 Sep 2009, 11:27
by Coco
Next we we have a thread entitled 'Examples Of Tall Welshman Who Have Boxed', then 'Best Fighters To Have Come Out Of Swansea', then 'Examples Of Chinny Bangers'

Where will this end???????????

Re: Examples of decent fighters woefully out of their depth

Posted: 13 Sep 2009, 11:28
by FLINT ISLAND
Asterix wrote:Maccarinelli against Lebedev. I thought it was a 50-50 fight, but Maccarinelli was just pummelled. :(
I dont think he was much out of his depth there - rather his confidence was just completly shot -

Re: Examples of decent fighters woefully out of their depth

Posted: 13 Sep 2009, 11:28
by Asterix
FLINT ISLAND wrote:
Asterix wrote:Maccarinelli against Lebedev. I thought it was a 50-50 fight, but Maccarinelli was just pummelled. :(
I dont think he was much out of his depth there - rather his confidence was just completly shot -
No, Lebedev completely outboxed him.

Re: Examples of decent fighters woefully out of their depth

Posted: 13 Sep 2009, 11:29
by n1ebf
Coco wrote:Next we we have a thread entitled 'Examples Of Tall Welshman Who Have Boxed', then 'Best Fighters To Have Come Out Of Swansea', then 'Examples Of Chinny Bangers'

Where will this end???????????
Examples of woeful fighters that enter the ring to Tom Petty music...

Re: Examples of decent fighters woefully out of their depth

Posted: 13 Sep 2009, 11:29
by dkos
FLINT ISLAND wrote:
dkos wrote:Green against Leonard.
Didnt Davy Moore take a terrible hiding form Roberto Duran ?
Yep.

Rademacher against Patterson is another.

Re: Examples of decent fighters woefully out of their depth

Posted: 13 Sep 2009, 11:29
by FLINT ISLAND
Richie Wenton - Barrera nearly broke him in half with body shots.

Re: Examples of decent fighters woefully out of their depth

Posted: 13 Sep 2009, 11:29
by Asterix
Coco wrote:Next we we have a thread entitled 'Examples Of Tall Welshman Who Have Boxed', then 'Best Fighters To Have Come Out Of Swansea', then 'Examples Of Chinny Bangers'

Where will this end???????????
'Welsh boxers of Italian heritage'

Re: Examples of decent fighters woefully out of their depth

Posted: 13 Sep 2009, 11:31
by FLINT ISLAND
Kevin Lueshing - floored Trindad but was then quickly dealth with.

Nicky Piper and Mark Prince - both took a bit of a hiding of Darius Micahezaseki in Germany

Re: Examples of decent fighters woefully out of their depth

Posted: 13 Sep 2009, 11:33
by n1ebf
examples of same trainer/ fighter first names.....

I'll go first....erm, ...... ......erm, .......Anthony Farnell and Anthony "Frankie" Gavin.... :confused:

Re: Examples of decent fighters woefully out of their depth

Posted: 13 Sep 2009, 11:33
by dkos
Hide against Bowe.

Re: Examples of decent fighters woefully out of their depth

Posted: 13 Sep 2009, 11:34
by FLINT ISLAND
Tony Thorton - who died the other day - acquited himself well against the likes of Steve Collins and Chris Eubank and James Toney -

But he was completly outclassed and blitzed in 3 rounds by Roy Jones Jnr

After the fight - which was Thortons last - and sent him into retirement - he was asked

Any advice for any fighters facing Roy Jones in the future

He replied

"Yes - my advice is stay the hell away from him " :lol: :lol: :TU:

Re: Examples of decent fighters woefully out of their depth

Posted: 13 Sep 2009, 11:35
by Asterix
NorthEastBoxingFan wrote:examples of same trainer/ fighter first names.....

I'll go first....erm, ...... ......erm, .......Anthony Farnell and Anthony "Frankie" Gavin.... :confused:
:lol:

Re: Examples of decent fighters woefully out of their depth

Posted: 13 Sep 2009, 12:39
by Daveyswan
What is it with this Flint bloke, Have you had a disagreement or something with enzo on a pxssed night in Barons .... Strange chap if you ask me.... obsessed! for heavens sake leave it go! please

Re: Examples of decent fighters woefully out of their depth

Posted: 13 Sep 2009, 12:43
by FLINT ISLAND
Daveyswan wrote:What is it with this Flint bloke, Have you had a disagreement or something with enzo on a pxssed night in Barons .... Strange chap if you ask me.... obsessed! for heavens sake leave it go! please
Barons has been shut for a few years now pal :DD

Re: Examples of decent fighters woefully out of their depth

Posted: 13 Sep 2009, 12:50
by Coco
Daveyswan wrote:What is it with this Flint bloke, Have you had a disagreement or something with enzo on a pxssed night in Barons .... Strange chap if you ask me.... obsessed! for heavens sake leave it go! please

Barons was a great place though!