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Witter Vs Woods
Posted: 15 Sep 2009, 13:05
by DG.
Who is the more talented?
I say Witter.
Re: Witter Vs Woods
Posted: 15 Sep 2009, 13:19
by whiskey
Its a case of natural talent vs consistency.
Woods may not have the ability that Witter had, but he was consistent. Wheras Junior was excellent against Harris, yet awful against Bradley.
Not sure.
Re: Witter Vs Woods
Posted: 15 Sep 2009, 13:25
by Horse
In which department is Witter better than Woods?
Power?
Chin?
Stamina?
Heart?
Speed?
Technique?
Re: Witter Vs Woods
Posted: 15 Sep 2009, 13:26
by Horse
When has Witter ever shown this superb talent of his?
Re: Witter Vs Woods
Posted: 15 Sep 2009, 13:45
by landon
Horse wrote:In which department is Witter better than Woods?
Power?
Chin?
Stamina?
Heart?
Speed?
Technique?
witter obviously quicker and a better knockout percentage but he was to unpredictable u never knew which witter would turn up when he was bad he was awful.. at least woods was in some decent fights. witter is a tit
Re: Witter Vs Woods
Posted: 16 Sep 2009, 06:02
by DG.
Witter is the more talented.
I like Woods but anyone who thinks he has more talent that Witter is delusional.
The fact 99% of the boxing world call him an overachiever sums it up for me!
In a back alley ( steady Hugh Johnson/Hitnahhatton1 – it’s a phrase that denotes a street fight and not the bottom love that you are so fond of!) I would gladly have Woods by my side, but in the ring Witter!
Power? Witter
Chin? Equal
Heart? Woods
Stamina? Woods
Defence? Witter
Natural Ability? Witter
Haircut? Woods
Speed? Witter
Consistent ? Woods
Witter wins by split decision.
The thing is - consistency does not come into it - Danny Williams is more talented than Skelton, but Skelton is more consistent.
DD
Re: Witter Vs Woods
Posted: 16 Sep 2009, 07:37
by mickey1975
DG. wrote:Witter is the more talented.
I like Woods but anyone who thinks he has more talent that Witter is delusional.
The fact 99% of the boxing world call him an overachiever sums it up for me!
In a back alley ( steady Hugh Johnson/Hitnahhatton1 – it’s a phrase that denotes a street fight and not the bottom love that you are so fond of!) I would gladly have Woods by my side, but in the ring Witter!
Power? Witter
Chin? Equal
Heart? Woods
Stamina? Woods
Defence? Witter
Natural Ability? Witter
Haircut? Woods
Speed? Witter
Consistent ? Woods
Witter wins by split decision.
The thing is - consistency does not come into it - Danny Williams is more talented than Skelton, but Skelton is more consistent.
chin,equal?did you see the bradley fight?nothing like that EVER happened to clinton,and he boxed a lot better fighters than bradley.
DD
Re: Witter Vs Woods
Posted: 16 Sep 2009, 07:39
by Asterix
Easy one to answer. Woods is definitely more talented. Had Witter been given the same chances as Woods, he would not have done as well. Witter has flaws that detract from his talent. Without changing either boxer, Woods is more talented. You could argue Witter is more talented only if you change some of his traits, but then you are changing him.
Re: Witter Vs Woods
Posted: 16 Sep 2009, 07:40
by Asterix
G0mez wrote:Its a case of natural talent vs consistency.
Woods may not have the ability that Witter had, but he was consistent. Wheras Junior was excellent against Harris, yet awful against Bradley.
Not sure.
I'm sorry, but consistency is part of talent.
Re: Witter Vs Woods
Posted: 16 Sep 2009, 07:44
by jimglen
Woods,
I think Woods shows pretty darn good 'basic' stand up boxing and performs well most of the time!
Witter shows; "well! does he ever show..?"
threw away his best chances because of his own arrogance and pride, thinking he was the better man and "it's a cert", and as I said shows nothin'.
Re: Witter Vs Woods
Posted: 16 Sep 2009, 07:55
by DG.
mickey1975 wrote:DG. wrote:Witter is the more talented.
I like Woods but anyone who thinks he has more talent that Witter is delusional.
The fact 99% of the boxing world call him an overachiever sums it up for me!
In a back alley ( steady Hugh Johnson/Hitnahhatton1 – it’s a phrase that denotes a street fight and not the bottom love that you are so fond of!) I would gladly have Woods by my side, but in the ring Witter!
Power? Witter
Chin? Equal
Heart? Woods
Stamina? Woods
Defence? Witter
Natural Ability? Witter
Haircut? Woods
Speed? Witter
Consistent ? Woods
Witter wins by split decision.
The thing is - consistency does not come into it - Danny Williams is more talented than Skelton, but Skelton is more consistent.
chin,equal?did you see the bradley fight?nothing like that EVER happened to clinton,and he boxed a lot better fighters than bradley.
DD
Watch Ole Klemetson fight. Woods went down pretty good in that. He got up to win though!
Re: Witter Vs Woods
Posted: 16 Sep 2009, 07:56
by DG.
Asterix wrote:G0mez wrote:Its a case of natural talent vs consistency.
Woods may not have the ability that Witter had, but he was consistent. Wheras Junior was excellent against Harris, yet awful against Bradley.
Not sure.
I'm sorry, but consistency is part of talent.
Williams and Skelton.
Who is better? Who is more talented? Consistent?
Williams - Skelton - Williams.
Woods is a basic (good) fighter!
DD
Re: Witter Vs Woods
Posted: 16 Sep 2009, 08:18
by Wrists
Talent is a word used often to describe people like Christiano Ronaldo, Floyd Mayweather JNR Ryan Giggs or Rafael Nadal
In the case of those above all are easy on the eye, skillful and generally you would pay good money to watch them.
The other thing with the other three is that they work damn hard at their skills, are consistent and make the most out of what they possess.
Talent is not normally used to described the likes of Claude Makalele, Clinton Woods, David Batty, Paul Collingwood or Jimmy Connors.
In the case of those above you often find adages like hard working, gritty etc etc.
Invariably though when the smelly stuff hits the fan you can rely on the second group more often than not whereas the first group only the really special front up and produce.
'Talent' is overated and is not the right barometer in terms of measuring achievement.
So on that score...................
Witter or Woods
Woods by a country mile - made the most of what he had, won world titles, never quit in a fight.
Witter - wasted talent by chasing pipe dream with Hatton, didn't want to throw punches and use the obvious talent he had, quit in a fight (no disrespect meant but the truth nonetheless) and did not achieve what he could have done.
Regards
Wrists
Re: Witter Vs Woods
Posted: 16 Sep 2009, 10:12
by WildWaylon
Confidence and arrogance are definately two very different things. Confidence and ability helped Woods to achieve, whereas arrogance has been Witters downfall. The fighters mind plays an enormous part in how far they succeed. When things didnt go right for the arrogant Witter he went from bad to worse. Woods on the other hand accepted all his top fights would be difficult, but used all his skills, and usually got the decision. Witter is a very skillful fighter but his attitude lets him down. Woods was for me the more complete fighter.
Re: Witter Vs Woods
Posted: 16 Sep 2009, 11:06
by banjo
Confidence and arrogance are definately two very different things.
It's amazing how many people think they are the same thing though.
Re: Witter Vs Woods
Posted: 16 Sep 2009, 11:30
by DG.
Could Woods throw 3 left hook in a row with speed?
Ask Amy...
She say No No No!
Re: Witter Vs Woods
Posted: 16 Sep 2009, 12:54
by Wrists
Could Clinton throw a fight by claiming he had a bad shoulder??
No
At least he went 12 with Tarver when he had a crap night.
Re: Witter Vs Woods
Posted: 16 Sep 2009, 13:08
by tonyevs
DG. wrote:
Haircut? Woods
DD
Re: Witter Vs Woods
Posted: 18 Sep 2009, 06:26
by DG.
Wrists wrote:Could Clinton throw a fight by claiming he had a bad shoulder??
No
At least he went 12 with Tarver when he had a crap night.
Clinton has never won in the US - he underperforms. Witter at least has a win abroad!
DD
Re: Witter Vs Woods
Posted: 18 Sep 2009, 06:30
by hitman_hatton1
against n'dou.
who every half decent fighter has beaten comfortably.
Re: Witter Vs Woods
Posted: 18 Sep 2009, 08:12
by DG.
hitman_hatton1 wrote:against n'dou.
who every half decent fighter has beaten comfortably.
A win is a win!
DD
Re: Witter Vs Woods
Posted: 18 Sep 2009, 08:14
by DG.
Who is the more talented?
Witter. 68% [ 43 ] x
Woods 28% [ 18 ]
DG. 3% [ 2 ]
Total votes : 63
DD
Re: Witter Vs Woods
Posted: 18 Sep 2009, 14:41
by states
I'll say Woods, purely to piss DG off.
Re: Witter Vs Woods
Posted: 27 Sep 2009, 14:59
by DG.
states wrote:I'll say Woods, purely to piss DG off.
Ya big wuss!
Re: Witter Vs Woods
Posted: 28 Sep 2009, 12:19
by alexpaterson
Witter has the better boxing ability and skills but Wood's has the better determination and grit