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SteveDow wrote:I think this would be a step too far for Pacman. Pavlik is a big Middleweight who is a massive puncher at the weight having knocked out well over 80% of his opponents. He would also have a massive height and reach advantage and I don't believe Pacman would have the power to trouble him. In addition, Pacman doesn't have a granite chin himself having been put down by Marquez and knocked out 3 times in his career at much lighter weights. Who knows what Pavlik could do if he connected.

The only way Pacman could win this in my opinion is if he used his speed to move in and out and didn't get involved in a tear up. This would require huge discipline and patience and that's just not the way Pacman fights.

A more interesting fight would be Mayweather against Pavlik which Mayweather could win if he fought a Hopkins type fight.

FLINT ISLAND wrote:Just looking through the latest issue of the ring and it had a big feature on Manny Pacquiao and what great fights there are left for him to go encahnce his greatness.

Floyd Mayweather.
Miguel Cotto.
Shane Mosely.
etc.
etc.

Then they said the ultimate fight for him to seal his career would be for him to move up to Middleweight to fight Kelly Pavlik for the Undisputed World Middleweight title.

Are ring Magazine nuts ?

Yes Manny has looked sensational beating up De La Hoya and sparking Hatton.

But look how big and rangy and most of all how hard a full blown middeweight banger like Pavlik punches.

Personally I think Pacquaio would be outgunned and outreached and get sparked out.

What does everyone else think of the Ring magazines very ambitous possible super fight ?

SteveDow wrote:Pacman doesn't have a granite chin himself having been put down by Marquez and knocked out 3 times in his career at much lighter weights. Who knows what Pavlik could do if he connected.

The only way Pacman could win this in my opinion is if he used his speed to move in and out and didn't get involved in a tear up. This would require huge discipline and patience and that's just not the way Pacman fights.

A more interesting fight would be Mayweather against Pavlik which Mayweather could win if he fought a Hopkins type fight.

danieljenkins wrote:clottey and williams would both ko manny at welter so imagen would pavlik would do

danieljenkins wrote:clottey and williams would both ko manny at welter so imagen would pavlik would do

DavidPayne wrote:Solo easy. Come on, not even worth discussing. And he'd get the girl. He's Indiana Jones FFS.

Carbo wrote:

DavidPayne wrote:Solo easy. Come on, not even worth discussing. And he'd get the girl. He's Indiana Jones FFS.

Give me a break, Payne. Kirk beat Spock in that episode when Spock went all crazy and angry and gained super human strength because of something that happens to vulcan blood.

Plus, Kirk beat genetically engineered Khan.

And on a ring generalmanship level, the fact Kirk is a master -- a master, do you hear, Payne -- of not just ordinary chess that any old Kasparov can get good at, but three dimensional chess, which suggests to me that he would have the tactical edge.

So why don't you just go home and wet the bed, loser.

Carbo wrote:I'm sorry, but are you lying about this being in Ring? The Ring I knew would never publish anything so preposterous.
Look, taking on someone like Mosley is really -- really -- pushing the envelope for the size of fighter that Pacquiao could conceivably take on, but Pavlik is way, way beyond the realms of possibility.

It would be like asking a prime Felix Trinidad to fight Evander Holyfield to seal his legacy.

Believe me, if Pacquiao fights and beats Cotto, Mayweather and Mosley in his next three fights, no only would he be the best of his generation, but he would also find himself in the hunt for a place in the all time top 10 list.

He doesn't need to step up and fight Vitaly Klitschko to prove anything more.

Shheessh. I sounds as if Ring have employed one of those pallid, greasy geeks who sit around in ill lit rooms, wearing Red Dwarf Smeg Head T-Shirts, eating Pringles and asking questions like "who would win in a fight between Captain Kirk and Hans Solo" and actually considering them seriously.

NorthEastBoxingFan wrote:

FLINT ISLAND wrote:Just looking through the latest issue of the ring and it had a big feature on Manny Pacquiao and what great fights there are left for him to go encahnce his greatness.

Floyd Mayweather.
Miguel Cotto.
Shane Mosely.
etc.
etc.

Then they said the ultimate fight for him to seal his career would be for him to move up to Middleweight to fight Kelly Pavlik for the Undisputed World Middleweight title.

Are ring Magazine nuts ?

Yes Manny has looked sensational beating up De La Hoya and sparking Hatton.

But look how big and rangy and most of all how hard a full blown middeweight banger like Pavlik punches.

Personally I think Pacquaio would be outgunned and outreached and get sparked out.

What does everyone else think of the Ring magazines very ambitous possible super fight ?

i wouldn't even discuss this. Some people get hold of any old topic and beat it to death. It's garbage, a mockery...Pavlik stands nearly one whole foot taller. It's tripe, it's a non-story. And yes I know Valuev is a foot taller each time he gets in the ring. Get over it.
Honestly, when train spotters stand in th ep*ssing rain at th eend of a platform with theikr notepads and pens at the ready, they get stick.
This is boxing trainspotting. Get a life.

FLINT ISLAND wrote:

Carbo wrote:I'm sorry, but are you lying about this being in Ring? The Ring I knew would never publish anything so preposterous.
Look, taking on someone like Mosley is really -- really -- pushing the envelope for the size of fighter that Pacquiao could conceivably take on, but Pavlik is way, way beyond the realms of possibility.

It would be like asking a prime Felix Trinidad to fight Evander Holyfield to seal his legacy.

Believe me, if Pacquiao fights and beats Cotto, Mayweather and Mosley in his next three fights, no only would he be the best of his generation, but he would also find himself in the hunt for a place in the all time top 10 list.

He doesn't need to step up and fight Vitaly Klitschko to prove anything more.

Shheessh. I sounds as if Ring have employed one of those pallid, greasy geeks who sit around in ill lit rooms, wearing Red Dwarf Smeg Head T-Shirts, eating Pringles and asking questions like "who would win in a fight between Captain Kirk and Hans Solo" and actually considering them seriously.

The ring list step by step fights about how Manny can seal his legacy from here

They list him rematching Marquez , fghting Mayweather and Mosely and Cotto.

Then list his final fight - as the ulimtate challenge - to walk in the footsteps of Henry Amrstrong - and move up and challenge for the World Undisputed Middleweight title against Kelly Pavlik.

FLINT ISLAND wrote:The Ring compared Manny Pac to Henry Armstrong - who was World Champion at Featherweight and won World titles at Lightweight and Welterweight also and just failed to win the World Middleweight title.

Manny started off even lighter than Featherweight Armstrong though.

Carbo wrote:

FLINT ISLAND wrote:

Carbo wrote:I'm sorry, but are you lying about this being in Ring? The Ring I knew would never publish anything so preposterous.
Look, taking on someone like Mosley is really -- really -- pushing the envelope for the size of fighter that Pacquiao could conceivably take on, but Pavlik is way, way beyond the realms of possibility.

It would be like asking a prime Felix Trinidad to fight Evander Holyfield to seal his legacy.

Believe me, if Pacquiao fights and beats Cotto, Mayweather and Mosley in his next three fights, no only would he be the best of his generation, but he would also find himself in the hunt for a place in the all time top 10 list.

He doesn't need to step up and fight Vitaly Klitschko to prove anything more.

Shheessh. I sounds as if Ring have employed one of those pallid, greasy geeks who sit around in ill lit rooms, wearing Red Dwarf Smeg Head T-Shirts, eating Pringles and asking questions like "who would win in a fight between Captain Kirk and Hans Solo" and actually considering them seriously.

The ring list step by step fights about how Manny can seal his legacy from here

Ring magazine seems to be a funny thing now Oscar De La Hoya owns the bloody thing !!!!

They list him rematching Marquez , fghting Mayweather and Mosely and Cotto.

Then list his final fight - as the ulimtate challenge - to walk in the footsteps of Henry Amrstrong - and move up and challenge for the World Undisputed Middleweight title against Kelly Pavlik.

A-ha! I have exposed your nefarious web of lies!

Just chill, FI, I wrote the sentence you enlarged not to denounce you to the forum as a filthy charlatan, but to draw attention to my incredulity at the Ring magazine's stupidity.