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Paul McCloskey Vs Souleymane M'Baye 06/11
Posted: 16 Sep 2009, 11:09
by Deno1986
Paul gets a shot at M'Baye's EBU Light Welterweight title in Belfast on the 6th of November. With Rogan v Sexton taking place in The Odyssey on the same night I presume this bout will take place at The Kings Hall.
M'Baye looked poor against McCloskeys late replacement Colin Lynes in his last bout but he is still a very dangerous and experienced opponent. It is worth noting that McCloskey stopped Lynes inside nine when they met back in December. I cant predict anything but a McCloskey UD. Would be interesting to see McCloskey-Khan in a year or two.
For Irish boxing fans, there is a good card on October 24th in the National Stadium featuring some good up and coming Irish prospects such as Eddie Hyland, Rob Long, Anto Fitzgerald and more. It will also be interesting to see the Irish based Cuban Super Middleweight prospect Luis Garcia fighting.

Re: Paul McCloskey Vs Souleymane M'Baye 06/11
Posted: 16 Sep 2009, 11:28
by GlobalBox
McCloskey for me all the way in this one, I thought he would win in France but was worried he would get jobbed but with home advantage I can't see him losing as even with some of the strange decisions we have lately, he should do more than enough to put most of the rounds out of reach.
M'Baye is a decent if not spectacular puncher but is so lazy these days, he really has just a punchers chance for me.
Although everything points to McCloskey on points here, however, when/if he gets into a rhythm he may land enough to possibly stop the Frenchman.
You are right though about the Khan angle being interesting in a year or so if no one has got to Khan's chin first it would be an interesting fight, not sure the Khan team would go down that route, it may be upto McCloskey to force the issue by taking on recognised world level opponents.

Re: Paul McCloskey Vs Souleymane M'Baye 06/11
Posted: 16 Sep 2009, 11:36
by Horse
Why are they putting this fight on the same day as Rogan vs Sexton?
Re: Paul McCloskey Vs Souleymane M'Baye 06/11
Posted: 16 Sep 2009, 11:39
by chris s
Who won the bids?
Re: Paul McCloskey Vs Souleymane M'Baye 06/11
Posted: 16 Sep 2009, 11:47
by Deno1986
Horse wrote:Why are they putting this fight on the same day as Rogan vs Sexton?
Dont ask me Horse, its a strange one, they would both sell out Belfast on their own. Maybe its some promotional rivalry and someone is trying to frighten allegedly although I just checked Sky Sports Live Schedule on their text service and they have McCloskey vs M'baye scheduled but there is no sign of Rogan v Sexton. Is there something we dont know about?
Re: Paul McCloskey Vs Souleymane M'Baye 06/11
Posted: 16 Sep 2009, 11:53
by Deno1986
chris s wrote:Who won the bids?
Its on EBU's website that Barry Hearn's Matchroom sports are the promoters. Looks like Hearn is putting the skids under Warren!
Re: Paul McCloskey Vs Souleymane M'Baye 06/11
Posted: 16 Sep 2009, 12:09
by iwz678
ridiculous decision to put the show the same night as Rogan v Sexton. That fight has the TV coverage and having seen the first fight plenty of people will flock to Rogan Sexton II.
I would suspect they will change the date but remember Rogan v Sexton was rearranged because of an injury to Rogan I think, so maybe they are just mulling over a new date.
Re: Paul McCloskey Vs Souleymane M'Baye 06/11
Posted: 16 Sep 2009, 12:11
by Horse
Deno1986 wrote:Dont ask me Horse, its a strange one, they would both sell out Belfast on their own. Maybe its some promotional rivalry and someone is trying to frighten allegedly although I just checked Sky Sports Live Schedule on their text service and they have McCloskey vs M'baye scheduled but there is no sign of Rogan v Sexton. Is there something we dont know about?
I want to watch both of these fights. I can't see the sense in putting them both on the same night.
If both fights are meant to be on Sky, then surely Sky will make one of the promoters change dates.
Re: Paul McCloskey Vs Souleymane M'Baye 06/11
Posted: 16 Sep 2009, 12:21
by GlobalBox
Horse wrote:Why are they putting this fight on the same day as Rogan vs Sexton?
November 6th was always a matchroom boxing date for Skysports and they have bid and got the M'Baye fight which presumably has pleased Sky to have a EBU title fight on live. Following the postponement of Rogan/Sexton in Oct, the rival company then announced they were switching it to Nov 6th as well.
Sky appear to have stood firm with there commitment to Matchroom and rightly so, it remains to be seen if common sense prevails, as usual the boxing fan is left in the middle and unable to be in two places at once.
Not one for slagging companies off really but to switch to a new date for Rogan/Sexton that you knew was already taken with a Sky show for Matchroom smacks of arrogance for me.
I want to see Rogan/Sexton as much as the next man but I hope Matchroom keep there plans and date solid and other arrangements are made for Rogan/Sexton, so the Irish fans can cheer both there boys on and we get to see both fights live over here in blighty.

Re: Paul McCloskey Vs Souleymane M'Baye 06/11
Posted: 16 Sep 2009, 12:28
by Deno1986
GLOBALBOX wrote:Horse wrote:Why are they putting this fight on the same day as Rogan vs Sexton?
November 6th was always a matchroom boxing date for Skysports and they have bid and got the M'Baye fight which presumably has pleased Sky to have a EBU title fight on live. Following the postponement of Rogan/Sexton in Oct, the rival company then announced they were switching it to Nov 6th as well.
Sky appear to have stood firm with there commitment to Matchroom and rightly so, it remains to be seen if common sense prevails, as usual the boxing fan is left in the middle and unable to be in two places at once.
Not one for slagging companies off really but to switch to a new date for Rogan/Sexton that you knew was already taken with a Sky show for Matchroom smacks of arrogance for me.
I want to see Rogan/Sexton as much as the next man but I hope Matchroom keep there plans and date solid and other arrangements are made for Rogan/Sexton, so the Irish fans can cheer both there boys on and we get to see both fights live over here in blighty.

Thats some good research work there Global, agree with you with regards to Matchroom keeping their card on the 6th and hopefully Rogan v Sexton is switched to the week after. Really want to see both of them fight.

Re: Paul McCloskey Vs Souleymane M'Baye 06/11
Posted: 16 Sep 2009, 12:39
by leforge
Next free date is 27th of November. One should move it probably Wazza.
Re: Paul McCloskey Vs Souleymane M'Baye 06/11
Posted: 16 Sep 2009, 13:11
by steve689
SKY is a big issue but just from a ticket selling point of view it makes no sense as you are dragging the same clientelle away from one fight or another - the same people who would attend both and are now split.
With or without TV, you still don't want gaping empty seats and half full arenas and with the Tyson thing on at the Waterfront Hall as well it is ridiculous! Cutting off the nose to spite the face.
Hopefully someone will reconsider this move.
Re: Paul McCloskey Vs Souleymane M'Baye 06/11
Posted: 16 Sep 2009, 15:50
by brian13
How come Hearn is putting on Mc Closkey's fights, I taught Brian Peters was Mc Closkey's promoter
Re: Paul McCloskey Vs Souleymane M'Baye 06/11
Posted: 16 Sep 2009, 17:08
by Deno1986
brian13 wrote:How come Hearn is putting on Mc Closkey's fights, I taught Brian Peters was Mc Closkey's promoter
Hearn has put on a good few of McCloskeys fights particulary the British Title bouts and Im pretty sure he is his main promoter. It is easier to have a British promoter when you are chasing British titles and Commonwealth titles. However Peters also has some rights to promote McCloskey in Irish bouts. As far as I know Hearn and Peters have a good relationship so conflict isn't going to be likely. It is similiar to John Duddy and Andy Lee who have American promoters but when they come back to fight in Ireland Peters promotes them although Manny Steward fancies himself as a bit of a promoter

Re: Paul McCloskey Vs Souleymane M'Baye 06/11
Posted: 16 Sep 2009, 17:21
by leforge
One of fights need to be moved.
Re: Paul McCloskey Vs Souleymane M'Baye 06/11
Posted: 16 Sep 2009, 17:25
by Asterix
Deno1986 wrote:brian13 wrote:How come Hearn is putting on Mc Closkey's fights, I taught Brian Peters was Mc Closkey's promoter
Hearn has put on a good few of McCloskeys fights particulary the British Title bouts and Im pretty sure he is his main promoter. It is easier to have a British promoter when you are chasing British titles and Commonwealth titles. However Peters also has some rights to promote McCloskey in Irish bouts. As far as I know Hearn and Peters have a good relationship so conflict isn't going to be likely. It is similiar to John Duddy and Andy Lee who have American promoters but when they come back to fight in Ireland Peters promotes them although Manny Steward fancies himself as a bit of a promoter

That's a very good concept. Much better for all parties if the boxer can increase their exposure.
Re: Paul McCloskey Vs Souleymane M'Baye 06/11
Posted: 17 Sep 2009, 03:27
by steve689
Looking forward to the National Stadium show as well you mentioned. Was speaking to Phil Sutcliffe last night and he is offering cheaper ticket prices and family deals to get the kids in. Really looking forward to seing Luis Garcia in the flesh and also the Fitzgerald-Long rematch. Phil reckons Eddie Hyland is headlining with the IBF belt thingy and Oisin Fagan could appear.
A good domestic value show.
Re: Paul McCloskey Vs Souleymane M'Baye 06/11
Posted: 17 Sep 2009, 08:59
by gemmell
Deno1986 wrote:Paul gets a shot at M'Baye's EBU Light Welterweight title in Belfast on the 6th of November. With Rogan v Sexton taking place in The Odyssey on the same night I presume this bout will take place at The Kings Hall.
M'Baye looked poor against McCloskeys late replacement Colin Lynes in his last bout but he is still a very dangerous and experienced opponent. It is worth noting that McCloskey stopped Lynes inside nine when they met back in December. I cant predict anything but a McCloskey UD. Would be interesting to see McCloskey-Khan in a year or two.
For Irish boxing fans, there is a good card on October 24th in the National Stadium featuring some good up and coming Irish prospects such as Eddie Hyland, Rob Long, Anto Fitzgerald and more. It will also be interesting to see the Irish based Cuban Super Middleweight prospect Luis Garcia fighting.

luis garcia lives in newcastle

Re: Paul McCloskey Vs Souleymane M'Baye 06/11
Posted: 17 Sep 2009, 09:09
by BigEars
brian13 wrote:How come Hearn is putting on Mc Closkey's fights, I taught Brian Peters was Mc Closkey's promoter
Brian Peters is McCloskey's manager, Matchroom Sports are his promoter.
Re: Paul McCloskey Vs Souleymane M'Baye 06/11
Posted: 17 Sep 2009, 09:27
by Deno1986
gemmell wrote:Deno1986 wrote:Paul gets a shot at M'Baye's EBU Light Welterweight title in Belfast on the 6th of November. With Rogan v Sexton taking place in The Odyssey on the same night I presume this bout will take place at The Kings Hall.
M'Baye looked poor against McCloskeys late replacement Colin Lynes in his last bout but he is still a very dangerous and experienced opponent. It is worth noting that McCloskey stopped Lynes inside nine when they met back in December. I cant predict anything but a McCloskey UD. Would be interesting to see McCloskey-Khan in a year or two.
For Irish boxing fans, there is a good card on October 24th in the National Stadium featuring some good up and coming Irish prospects such as Eddie Hyland, Rob Long, Anto Fitzgerald and more. It will also be interesting to see the Irish based Cuban Super Middleweight prospect Luis Garcia fighting.

luis garcia lives in newcastle

as far as i knew he lived in Cork, Ireland.. is his trainer in Newcastle??
Re: Paul McCloskey Vs Souleymane M'Baye 06/11
Posted: 17 Sep 2009, 10:54
by boxingchat
6th November is the only date at trhe venuie for the Rogan return. Sky have refused an alternative date for McCloskey so Hearn had no choice but to stay on 6th. Blame Sky not the promoters in this case.
The fans are the losers in this mess.
Re: Paul McCloskey Vs Souleymane M'Baye 06/11
Posted: 17 Sep 2009, 11:32
by 15829
its pathetic we should at least get the roagan sexton on delayed coverage staight after the mcloskey fight
Re: Paul McCloskey Vs Souleymane M'Baye 06/11
Posted: 17 Sep 2009, 13:25
by leforge
Sky need to sort it out then, move McCloskey fight back.
Re: Paul McCloskey Vs Souleymane M'Baye 06/11
Posted: 17 Sep 2009, 13:34
by stujones
I wonder if Sky will do a double header, as they used to do. Just show the main events from each venue?
Re: Paul McCloskey Vs Souleymane M'Baye 06/11
Posted: 17 Sep 2009, 14:12
by leforge
Rogan fight moved to following Saturday and be used as warm up for Pacman v Cotto fight that be ideal .