Chauncy Welliver Story
Posted: 18 Oct 2009, 19:51
Chauncy wrote:We don't know yet.
Hounddawg wrote:Chauncy wrote:We don't know yet.
Mate you and N2 still trying to negotiate with some of the boys from OZ
Will Tua headline.....if not, why NZ? Solo draws crowds in Australia, i mean he's no Green or Mundine but he is well known, your record looks impressive and would probably be easy to promote on a PPV.Chauncy wrote:Hounddawg wrote:Chauncy wrote:We don't know yet.
Mate you and N2 still trying to negotiate with some of the boys from OZ
Always. We tried for Hoppa, Kirby, and Solomon Haumono. Now that Kirby has lost his title, he is really not one of my choices, and now that Hoppa lost the way he did, I am not so sure he'll ever lace em up again.
If Haumono wants to fight, we're more than down anytime they want.
After I head home next month we're gonna start talking with some of the sponors here about doing a fight with me and Haumono in February here in NZ.
I offeredto do the fight in November that he has for the IBF Australasian title but they shot it down.
I think they'll like our offer for February, and if they turn it down, they just flat out don't wanna fight.
agree his rec shows that he has ko wins over debut boxers or who just had 1 fight and goes the distance with Tutaki,Talameira,Mailata bums of all bum fighters who come to aussie and gets raped by the top aussie heavies and still you guys want to talk about taking on Aussies best but havn't done shit, you know that saying "YOU TALK THE TALK but can't WALK THE WALK" well you represent that saying very well,bluddy hell even Kim Heta would beat Welliver you guys are tooo much up yourselfs on chauncy.iron rhino wrote:Chauncey = germ,I don't see how you think you can challenge aus's top fighters when your only claim to fame is Solis,he took the fight bacause he saw your record,and you claim to be robbed?well how about the amount of fighters you claim to beat in their debut,or the amount of losses they had before they fight you!I did put the challenge to you for the belt when I had it ,your answer no,stop posting like you want to fight the best,when all you are is a coward who won't fight out of your comfort zone,i'm sick to death of your challenges all I need to do is look at your recent fights,not one contender as far as I can see,and I feel sorry for your promoter,I wish I had N2shape to believe all this bullshit,i'd be challenging klitchko by now(LOL)And if you have a problem with anything i'm saying i'll fight you anyday,anywhere;stop talking poop bitch!
If you look above, I never called out anybody. I was asked a question. I answered it. and Iron Rhino, you mean nothing to beat up on now. As I stated then, you only mean something as you had a title, and you got beaten so badly for the title, your damaged goods now.iron rhino wrote:Chauncey = germ,I don't see how you think you can challenge aus's top fighters when your only claim to fame is Solis,he took the fight bacause he saw your record,and you claim to be robbed?well how about the amount of fighters you claim to beat in their debut,or the amount of losses they had before they fight you!I did put the challenge to you for the belt when I had it ,your answer no,stop posting like you want to fight the best,when all you are is a coward who won't fight out of your comfort zone,i'm sick to death of your challenges all I need to do is look at your recent fights,not one contender as far as I can see,and I feel sorry for your promoter,I wish I had N2shape to believe all this bullshit,i'd be challenging klitchko by now(LOL)And if you have a problem with anything i'm saying i'll fight you anyday,anywhere;stop talking poop bitch!
To answer the questions set for me:dan h wrote:Always in boxing people blaming it on promoters etc.
How about this Chauncy and Iron Rhino, just both each answer these questions on this public forum so we can atleast know who is talking crap and who isn't. Hell, we may even get to see a fight out of this.
Just give straight answers guys.
Chauncy:
1. How much would you pay Kirby to come to NZ to fight you?
2. How much would you want to come to Aus to fight Kirbry?
Iron Rhino:
1. How much would you pay Chauncy to come to Aus to fight you?
2. How much do you want to go to NZ to fight Chauncy?
Carlos-Wigan wrote:Chauncy, tell me more about this David Gemmell? How old is he? Why did he think he could beat you? Was there bad blood that you weren't aware of?
If you want a fight - why don't you get yourself over to the UK for the winner of Sexton vs Rogan?If you had the commonwealth heavyweight title - you would have all the heavyweights in Oceania knocking on your door!
Chauncy wrote:If you look above, I never called out anybody. I was asked a question. I answered it. and Iron Rhino, you mean nothing to beat up on now. As I stated then, you only mean something as you had a title, and you got beaten so badly for the title, your damaged goods now.iron rhino wrote:Chauncey = germ,I don't see how you think you can challenge aus's top fighters when your only claim to fame is Solis,he took the fight bacause he saw your record,and you claim to be robbed?well how about the amount of fighters you claim to beat in their debut,or the amount of losses they had before they fight you!I did put the challenge to you for the belt when I had it ,your answer no,stop posting like you want to fight the best,when all you are is a coward who won't fight out of your comfort zone,i'm sick to death of your challenges all I need to do is look at your recent fights,not one contender as far as I can see,and I feel sorry for your promoter,I wish I had N2shape to believe all this bullshit,i'd be challenging klitchko by now(LOL)And if you have a problem with anything i'm saying i'll fight you anyday,anywhere;stop talking poop bitch!![]()
Fighting the debuter was not my option. It was some "arm wrestling" guy challenging me and asking everybody to set up the fight. I didn't even know who we was fighting going to the arena. Remember that guy who just beat you Rhino? Haumono, tell him fighters with 1 fight are no good. A fighter with one fight did more in 10 seconds than you did in 10 rounds.
Slim pickins down here in NZ, and that's why we've asked to fight the Aussie fighters. Hoppa was asked to fight me on the Tua vs Cameron card. I agreed, and even for short money, and he said no! (Here comes issabella!)Leapai was asked to fight me last year, he said no. I have the emails on that one between Thornberry and Ken Reinsfeld. I called out Michael Kirby, even have the emails to the promoter, and they didn't wanna do the fight as it wasn't affordable.
I was just 2 weeks ago offered a fight with Haumono and said yes, and the fight was in Aussie, but he said no. That's the man who crushed "Iron Rhino"!
I aint claiming to be some bad ass KO puncher, if I was, I would have KOed Amosa Zinck inmy last fight 17-10-09 which isn't on boxrec yet as the commission hasn't gotten back to Anton, but for some reason, these guys wont fight. Most of it comes down to the money, at least they say.
Issabella, last year, John Glozier was called about a fight with Kim Heta for Hirawa Tirangi and Johnny told them I'd do it, and they said no. He said I'd do it for free and just get sponsors. Heta said no.
All the promoters will blame it on it costs to much. We offer them the same money they offer us but for them to come over here, and they say no.
And I never claimed to be robbed against Solis. He won. He stopped me. Wasn't the best of stoppages, but he was winning the fight. It was going nearly as bad as Haumono vs. Kirby.Kidding. Nothing was that bad!
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I'm doing what fighters are supposed to do, drumming up attention to get a fighter to fight me, and we make money, and everybodies happy. I put on good shows, and the people like to watch me fight. Anybody who has anything bad to say about my record, yeah, I fought a lot of bums. More than most. AND, I didn't KO a lot of them. Let's not forget, I been more rounds than anybody in OZ. Even though it aint a fight, I've been in with the best, in sparring. I get paid well for it, and I don't have all the losses on my record. If somebody wants to pay me appropriatly to fight, I'm down. If somebody wants to pay poop, that's what they'll get.![]()
Kirby, if you wanna stand up and beat me up, I'm down. Go get a couple of wins, as we put your name through to the WBO and they said you wouldn't be approved, and we'll fight you anytime you feel like getting the wins first. But I must warn, any performances like the last one could put you out of the mix.
And wait a tick, you say you challenged me when you had the belt??? Why no responses when you had it and I called you out on this site?![]()
Have a good day Iron Rhino. If you find a promoter to offer some cash, you know where to find me. I would have one bring it over here, but if you don't sell in OZ, how you gonna make it worth while here. ;;-)
iron rhino wrote:To the fake dorky white guy,mate you are a deadset mess.I tried not to get caught up in this he said she said biz,enough is enough.You make it sound like we have to live up to your criteria and approval,laughable to say the least.When I had the belt I was organising fights with real contenders not talking poop on computers.Your propped up rankings and records are rubbish and I can't see how you see yourself as a justified contender.You think I got crushed against haumono ay,what Sio done to haumono thats crushed,what wilson done to hoppa thats crushed,I showed more heart in that fight than you ever have in all your fights,yes I did lose the fight but to say i'm damaged goods and my reputation is dinted by my 11th fight is hilarious,i'm just getting started. I don't know who is feeding you this unanswered email buisness,of all the top fighters able to fight on the sept 18 card only two said yes,and you weren't one of them.All this talk but we'll see who your next apponent is,i'm more than sure it'll be a fighter out of contention or an overweight cruiserweight.Your motto seems to be "challenge the big boys but fight the bums "then hide behind your record,FAKE AS!!!
You were fighting in america if you were to make it that was your shot,you don't go from america to new zealand to further your career!I think it's you who's 47 fight career is damaged and over and you who cannot sell out packed houses,just have a look where your so called extensive career has led to,then tell me mine is over by my 11th fight.Put any spin you wan't on this I don't care,actions speak louder than words,your the one fighting like a washed up fighter and not a hungry real contender willing to put his money where his mouth is.Belt or no belt iv'e taken real fights in my short career,and I will be better for it,wait and see.
That's true, but he did not take the fight when it weas offered, and his promoter said they'd want to do it in Aussie as they'd never come over here for a fight as he was the champion. We said yes to going over there and they said it was to "costly".ben k wrote:N2shape, Honestly though, Kirby hasnt ever avioded anyone so i can understand his frustration at seeing his name there as if he avioded Chauncy.
Also the Nathan Briggs win was more impressive than any win on Chauncy's record. And im not trying to disrespect either guy. Just calling a spade a Spade.