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katsidis has said this is rumour there is no fight anytime soon

its a fight i wouldnt mind seeing like!

Did Murray "obliterate" Youssef al-Hamidi?

christymetcalfe1 wrote:katsidis can say what he likes hennesey promotions has recently hinted kat could b on johns list mayb next yyear or something

I think Kastidis holds the cards here, not Henessy.

Wales wrote:

christymetcalfe1 wrote:katsidis can say what he likes hennesey promotions has recently hinted kat could b on johns list mayb next yyear or something

I think Kastidis holds the cards here, not Henessy.

exactly katsidis would be on most peoples list but whether they get to fight him is a different story

Wales wrote:

christymetcalfe1 wrote:katsidis can say what he likes hennesey promotions has recently hinted kat could b on johns list mayb next yyear or something

I think Kastidis holds the cards here, not Henessy.

yup. but hey, murray wins 2 or 3 more and who knows?

Wales wrote:

christymetcalfe1 wrote:katsidis can say what he likes hennesey promotions has recently hinted kat could b on johns list mayb next yyear or something

I think Kastidis holds the cards here, not Henessy.

x2.

No offence to Murray but on another thread there was a response from Kat about this and he didn't seem to have a fornicating clue who John Murray was! He probably has bigger fish to fry...

Counter-puncher wrote:

Wales wrote:

christymetcalfe1 wrote:katsidis can say what he likes hennesey promotions has recently hinted kat could b on johns list mayb next yyear or something

I think Kastidis holds the cards here, not Henessy.

yup. but hey, murray wins 2 or 3 more and who knows?

Yeah, and in the meantime (while john is picking up those 2 or 3 wins) what is kastidis doing? There are plenty of guys at lightweight who could feasibly outbox the aussie brawler and take the title from him, he's far from unbeatable, but one of the most marketable. A lot of water has to pass under the bridge before Murray gets his world title shot IMO. Best thing for John is to concentrate on the Europ title, then move form there. Lets talk about world titles when they are realistically within touching distance, at present many on here may think he's good enough, but few outside message boards and the UK are aware of him, or his credentials.

i agree wales, hence 'who knows' (Kat could get beat, Kat could move up to LWW, etc etc... but for sure Murray ain't quite earned it yet)?

Murry should go for EBY title then go for romanov

oliverfennell wrote:Did Murray "obliterate" Youssef al-Hamidi?

Katsidis isn't all that but he would beat the piss out of Murray, who has proving the sum total of nothing in his career to date. 'Losing' a WBC Youth Title fight and going life and death with 167 yer old mexican journeyman and youssef al hamidi does not make him ready for people in/around world class

oliverfennell wrote:Did Murray "obliterate" Youssef al-Hamidi?

no he struggled but he wasnt expecting al hamidi and to be fair al hamidi is better than his record just he has to take fights on shirt notice because he has no mnager or promoter

christymetcalfe1 wrote:after katsidis beasting escubado and murray obliterating everyone put in his path it has been widely claimed that a fight between katsidis and murray is around the cards. id firstly like to state this would be about as intruiging a battle to watch as any as both have big punches both only fight one way and both have a solid chin and good punch output but both at times lack abit of skill and can be outboxed. so the question is who wins this one?

Obliterated? LOL muppet.

Katsidis has bigger fish to fry at the moment - there have been talks of a fight with Hatton. Would be a fantastic job by Hennessy if he could get Murray the fight, but as it stands does he really deserve it? Murray is a great prospect but in world-level terms he's beaten no-one of note. He needs to bag himself the european title, perhaps make a defence against Arthur and get some international experience against a Santa Cruz , Chavez or Diaz. That's in an ideal world and it would serve him well for a fight against Katsidis. But however it happens, it's a real spectacle in prospect - great clash of styles. And I tell you what, looking at the rankings, theres no easy way to the top at lightweight. No wonder Khan moved up!

Think Murray is better than people are giving him credit for but think he should go European first.

Another thread where people jump on the bandwaggon of "oh a fighter stuggled against someone he shouldn't of and therefore will get battered by someone else". We all know boxing doesn't work out that way, look at Pac mans early defeats and now look at who he's beat and what he's achieved in the sport.

If your looking at previous records look at Kastidis victory against Graham Earl, yes an easy 5th round stoppage, pity he couldn't knock him out in the 1st round like Henry Castle did or what Khan did and Khan took longer than Castle and now Khan is world champion and Castle struggles to even get a British title so it doesn't matter who a boxer has beat or lost to in the past it just matters who they beat in the present.

Look at Jermain Taylor beating Bernard Hopkins.

I think out of interest Murray would beat Kastidis and Romanov.

Katsidis said on the radio this morning that he is waiting for Marquez to make up his mind to fight him and if he doesn't the WBO will make him the World Champion and he can pick anyone for his 1st defence.

ourkid1984 wrote:Think Murray is better than people are giving him credit for but think he should go European first.

Another thread where people jump on the bandwaggon of "oh a fighter stuggled against someone he shouldn't of and therefore will get battered by someone else". We all know boxing doesn't work out that way, look at Pac mans early defeats and now look at who he's beat and what he's achieved in the sport.

If your looking at previous records look at Kastidis victory against Graham Earl, yes an easy 5th round stoppage, pity he couldn't knock him out in the 1st round like Henry Castle did or what Khan did and Khan took longer than Castle and now Khan is world champion and Castle struggles to even get a British title so it doesn't matter who a boxer has beat or lost to in the past it just matters who they beat in the present.

Look at Jermain Taylor beating Bernard Hopkins.

I think out of interest Murray would beat Kastidis and Romanov.

Both Earl and Taylor were totally different fighters during the fights you mentioned, they are both way past their best.

christymetcalfe1 wrote:after katsidis beasting escubado and murray obliterating everyone put in his path it has been widely claimed that a fight between katsidis and murray is around the cards. id firstly like to state this would be about as intruiging a battle to watch as any as both have big punches both only fight one way and both have a solid chin and good punch output but both at times lack abit of skill and can be outboxed. so the question is who wins this one?

I think you can probably gather the answer is that Murray is not on Kat's radar and if they did fight we, as a Boxrec collective, think Kat would win

Katsidis has mandatory commitments - fight wont happen anytime soon.

who's the top WBO contender?

thought it was that demarco kid, and he's taken some kind of WBC box off, it seems...

lefthook82 wrote:

oliverfennell wrote:Did Murray "obliterate" Youssef al-Hamidi?

Katsidis isn't all that but he would beat the piss out of Murray, who has proving the sum total of nothing in his career to date. 'Losing' a WBC Youth Title fight and going life and death with 167 yer old mexican journeyman and youssef al hamidi does not make him ready for people in/around world class

Wow, a Boxrec forum member who shares my opinion that he isn't the mutts' nuts simply because he's a lightweight whose name isn't Amir Khan!

teddy007 wrote:

ourkid1984 wrote:Think Murray is better than people are giving him credit for but think he should go European first.

Another thread where people jump on the bandwaggon of "oh a fighter stuggled against someone he shouldn't of and therefore will get battered by someone else". We all know boxing doesn't work out that way, look at Pac mans early defeats and now look at who he's beat and what he's achieved in the sport.

If your looking at previous records look at Kastidis victory against Graham Earl, yes an easy 5th round stoppage, pity he couldn't knock him out in the 1st round like Henry Castle did or what Khan did and Khan took longer than Castle and now Khan is world champion and Castle struggles to even get a British title so it doesn't matter who a boxer has beat or lost to in the past it just matters who they beat in the present.

Look at Jermain Taylor beating Bernard Hopkins.

I think out of interest Murray would beat Kastidis and Romanov.

Both Earl and Taylor were totally different fighters during the fights you mentioned, they are both way past their best.

Exactly what I meant just like Earl and Taylor were completely different fighters, so is Murray.

Oh and when Khan beat Earl it was the very next fight after Kastidis so he couldn't of been that much different.

christymetcalfe1 wrote:noones actually answered the question... who wins murray or katsidis??

I've answered if you read my earlier post

christymetcalfe1 wrote:ok more useless comments .. who wins kat or murray and why please otherwize dnt bother

Set it as a poll if all you want is responses simply saying Murray or Kastidis

lefthook82 wrote:

oliverfennell wrote:Did Murray "obliterate" Youssef al-Hamidi?

Katsidis isn't all that but he would beat the piss out of Murray, who has proving the sum total of nothing in his career to date. 'Losing' a WBC Youth Title fight and going life and death with 167 yer old mexican journeyman and youssef al hamidi does not make him ready for people in/around world class

People argue What Khan done to earn his world title shot after life and death with a faded super Feather Gomez former faded Super Bantam /fether Barrera and getting kod in 1 at lightweight how does he be ready for a world title shot on that form.

TJAY wrote:

lefthook82 wrote:

oliverfennell wrote:Did Murray "obliterate" Youssef al-Hamidi?

Katsidis isn't all that but he would beat the piss out of Murray, who has proving the sum total of nothing in his career to date. 'Losing' a WBC Youth Title fight and going life and death with 167 yer old mexican journeyman and youssef al hamidi does not make him ready for people in/around world class

People argue What Khan done to earn his world title shot after life and death with a faded super Feather Gomez former faded Super Bantam /fether Barrera and getting kod in 1 at lightweight how does he be ready for a world title shot on that form.

When did he go "life and death" with Barrera?

Anyway, won't find many who disagree with Khan not deserving the shot at the time he got it. Rightly or wrongly, Barrera was ranked by the WBO, but at lightweight, so probabloy not enough to warrant the WBA shot at Kotelnik, but whatever, we know it's politics. The point is, he was given the shot and he went out there and won it.