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This is De La Hoya at the brink of his 147lb. tenure, so he has peaked at Jr. Welter (IMO, his best division) & his record stands at 22-0-0. All fights are scheduled for twelve rounds, with the three-knockdown rule in effect, & no saving by the bell, irrespective of the round. Obviously, all opponents are in their 140lb. prime...

Meldrick Taylor (Pre-knee injury)

Antonio Cervantes

Aaron Pryor

Julio Cesar Chavez

Tony Canzoneri

Kostya Tszyu

Barney Ross

Alexis Arguello

Wilfred Benitez

Manny Pacquiao (This'll be interesting)

Go!

Oscar is one of those guys who may have gone full circle from once being overraqted to now being underrated.

Ezzard wrote:Oscar is one of those guys who may have gone full circle from once being overraqted to now being underrated.

He was absolutely lethal at 140lbs. I know most of his high-profile fights & achievements were at 147lbs, & he was still young when he entered the division, so I can see why many consider him to be a natural Welter --- for me, however, I thought he never looked quite so good as at Jr. Welter. For all of his enormous talent, skills & instincts, he was still fairly inexperienced, & facing some real superstars in this list.

How do you see him faring against this crop, Ezz?

Goodnight, Irene wrote:This is De La Hoya at the brink of his 147lb. tenure, so he has peaked at Jr. Welter (IMO, his best division) & his record stands at 22-0-0. All fights are scheduled for twelve rounds, with the three-knockdown rule in effect, & no saving by the bell, irrespective of the round. Obviously, all opponents are in their 140lb. prime...

Meldrick Taylor (Pre-knee injury)

Antonio Cervantes

Aaron Pryor

Julio Cesar Chavez

Tony Canzoneri

Kostya Tszyu

Barney Ross

Alexis Arguello

Wilfred Benitez

Manny Pacquiao (This'll be interesting)

Go!

I'll give the rest some more thought, but Pryor would have pressured Oscar like he has never been pressured. Pryor would have had too much for him. De La Hoya mya have indeed been good, but he wasn't as good as Pryor!

Meldrick Taylor (Pre-knee injury) – I think DLH has enough skills to pull two out three victories here. DLH was robbed against Mosley on the second fight and the first one was pretty close.

Antonio Cervantes – I think he outboxes Cervantes on this one.

Aaron Pryor – I’ll go with Pryor on this one.

Julio Cesar Chavez – I’ll go with Chavez prime for prime I think Chavez was better.

Tony Canzoneri – Canzoneri great fighter and all but I think he would’ve been too small for DLH. DLH by decision.

Kostya Tszyu – I’ll go for DLH by decision. Tszyu only has a puncher chance.

Barney Ross- I think Ross has the skills to outsmart DLH.

Alexis Arguello – At 140 I’ll go for DLH, at 135 I’ll go with Arguello by KO.

Wilfred Benitez – I think Benitez out-box DLH. DLH will try to pressure but Benitez will be too elusive for him taking a SD.

Manny Pacquiao (This'll be interesting) – at 140 prime DLH I’ll go with DLH

He loses to all of the legends above.

elmersalsa wrote:He loses to all of the legends above.

You're full of sh!t on when it comes to De La Hoya. Don't even bother --- I can smell you coming a mile off. If I listed the likes of Sharmba Mitchell, Zab Judah & Ben Tackie in place of these guys, you'd say the same thing

Goodnight, Irene wrote:

elmersalsa wrote:He loses to all of the legends above.

You're full of sh!t on when it comes to De La Hoya. Don't even bother --- I can smell you coming a mile off. If I listed the likes of Sharmba Mitchell, Zab Judah & Ben Tackie in place of these guys, you'd say the same thing

I have to agree with Goodnight. It seems you don't like to give credit to any of the new generations fighters. I saw your replies to the other thread and new generation gets no credit at all. For example, Carzoneri was a great fighter but IMO he would be way too small for DLH. And call Tszyu a legend and he did not accomplish not even 1/3 of DLH accomplishements. How do you see him beating DLH is behond me. It sounds more like you are a hater more than a boxing fan. Give credit to where credit is due. I think DLH prime will even give problems to Leornard and Duran. Don't get me wrong they will be the clear favorites but DLH still has a chance. Why you underrate DLH so much?

It's not just newer fighters, actually --- he has a particular axe to grind (as he has previously admitted) with De La Hoya.

He would pick anyone over him, at any weight.

I think he beats Taylor with a big finish, Canzoneri with his size, Tszyu after some shaky early rds, Arguello with better speed and movement, and roughs up Pacquiao (I'm changing my tune if Pac-Man Ko's Cotto) All our decision wins.

Cervantes is too experienced and just edges it. Pryor goes down early but comes back for a stoppage in the 11th. Chavez falls behind in the first half of the fight, but his body attack wears Oscar down badly and the Golden Boy is barely standing at the final bell. Ross wins a close decision, and Benitez pulls out a SD with another amazing defensive display.

How fair can I be ? 5-5 record.

Goodnight, Irene wrote:It's not just newer fighters, actually --- he has a particular axe to grind (as he has previously admitted) with De La Hoya.

He would pick anyone over him, at any weight.

I just don't think that Oscar is that really good. He is way overrated in the time he is fighting. anybody in this time could be champion.