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OT. Olivers Gym in Salford

Posted: 25 Oct 2009, 12:35
by tonyevs
Can anybody help me.

I know a guy who claims to have done/been/got everything. You know, if somebody says they are a nurse - well he is a brain surgeon .. if somebody saw a UFO .. he was the one flying it :witzend:

His latest story time is that he fought out of Olivers Gym in Salford in 1995.
Was Olivers gym open then? (I thought he was fighting himself then?) .. or was anybody there then?

Much thanks.

Re: OT. Olivers Gym in Salford

Posted: 25 Oct 2009, 12:45
by sweetscience
i dont the facts but at a guess id say he is talking bollocks

oliver only looks about 37 tops

Re: OT. Olivers Gym in Salford

Posted: 25 Oct 2009, 13:18
by tonyevs
I have no doubt he is talking his usual bollox.
The guy would have to be 126yrs old atleast to have done the things he has in the past claimed: internationally represented Scotland and Wales at karate and handgliding .. RAF mountain recue climber .. so many more I could mention :oops:
He obviously watched jamie Moore fight Friday on Sky sports ... and saturday morning remembered he also boxed out of Olivers gym in Salford.

Re: OT. Olivers Gym in Salford

Posted: 25 Oct 2009, 13:51
by DG.
sweetscience wrote:i dont the facts but at a guess id say he is talking bollocks

oliver only looks about 37 tops
But he is black so if he looks 37 then he is most likely in his 40 plus. We age very well..
:OhYes:

Re: OT. Olivers Gym in Salford

Posted: 25 Oct 2009, 14:05
by tonyevs
Oliver harrison stopped boxing pro in 91 I just read .. but didn`t he do martial arts or something after?

Re: OT. Olivers Gym in Salford

Posted: 25 Oct 2009, 14:29
by teddy007
tonyevs wrote:Can anybody help me.

I know a guy who claims to have done/been/got everything. You know, if somebody says they are a nurse - well he is a brain surgeon .. if somebody saw a UFO .. he was the one flying it :witzend:

His latest story time is that he fought out of Olivers Gym in Salford in 1995.
Was Olivers gym open then? (I thought he was fighting himself then?) .. or was anybody there then?

Much thanks.
He is a bullsh!tter simple as mate.

Re: OT. Olivers Gym in Salford

Posted: 25 Oct 2009, 15:42
by Deserter
Oliver and Humphrey Harrison both did Thai boxing (think it was with Master Sken), as well as conventional boxing. Carl Thompson was another one with a background in Thai.
I'm sure I remember an interview with Oliver in either Combat magazine or Martial Arts Illustrated where he talked about his 'mixed' background and said he could hold his own at British level in conventional boxing so if he was allowed to use his Thai skills in the ring he'd be able to defeat all the top boxers.
I wonder why he switched over to conventional boxing? Probably just driven by commercial realities... would be interesting to get his take on MMA having his background...

Re: OT. Olivers Gym in Salford

Posted: 25 Oct 2009, 15:59
by landon
oliver took over jamie around 99/2000 i think jamie went pro wiv ray farrell/ steve foster first but im not sure oliver had his gym then. may b someone will come on the forum n put it to bed

Re: OT. Olivers Gym in Salford

Posted: 25 Oct 2009, 17:04
by Jeff Thomas
Put his name in Boxrec.

Re: OT. Olivers Gym in Salford

Posted: 25 Oct 2009, 17:26
by tonyevs
Thanks fellas.

Obviously he didn`t go pro .. or maybe he did under an assumed name eh :D

Just like to know if Olivers gym was even open then??

Re: OT. Olivers Gym in Salford

Posted: 25 Oct 2009, 17:40
by jayc
From memory think he opened it about 95 to be honest. I went a few years after that. Just ask your mate what the boozer near the gym is called and let me know what he says and i'll tell you if he's bullshitting mate. Sounds like he is though

Re: OT. Olivers Gym in Salford

Posted: 25 Oct 2009, 17:41
by jayc
Might have been 96 thinking bout it but i was only young then can't really remember, wasn't just pro's though, anyone could train really.

Re: OT. Olivers Gym in Salford

Posted: 25 Oct 2009, 18:07
by tonyevs
Thanks jayc :TU:

Is there another question to ask that he couldn`t google(BeeHive Inn?) to find out though?

Re: OT. Olivers Gym in Salford

Posted: 25 Oct 2009, 18:16
by jayc
Ask him to name the amateur boxing gym near Olivers. The old name not the new one (arrow, now bridgewater). Or ask him how people without cars used to get home and see what he says.

Re: OT. Olivers Gym in Salford

Posted: 25 Oct 2009, 18:24
by tonyevs
Thanks fella

Re: OT. Olivers Gym in Salford

Posted: 26 Oct 2009, 09:42
by dazzathtethai
Oliver and Humphrey Harrison, together with Carl Thomson all did Thai Boxing with Master Sken. Oliver was a very sharp aggressive fighter with good hands esp later in his Thai Career. Humphrey was the cleverest Thai fighter around at the time, very calculated. Oliver won a Euro title and Humphrey a (diluted) world title. Carl I believe may also have won a world title in Thai before moving to pro boxing. Phil Nurse also turned pro with them around the same time, he now teaches Thai full time in america and I believe is one of the coaches on the latest series of Ultimate Fighter, or has featured on it. He George St Peirres stand up coach.

They all trained initially out of Phil Martins Champs Camp,

Oliver was teaching both Thai and pro boxing out of his gym to start with, I'm trying to work out exactly when he started. it could have been 94.

Oliver must be older than me, he had a good few fights when I started at 17, 27 years ago. He must be late 40's going on 50, still in great shape though.

Ask your mate if he knows what happened to Olivers hand that caused him to take along break

Re: OT. Olivers Gym in Salford

Posted: 26 Oct 2009, 12:01
by teddy007
Slightly going off topic but I was in a fitness first gym today in Manchester and had a brief chat with Pat Barret who he says will be taking over the training with Thomas McDonagh at the Moston & Collyhurst which is good for the CollyHurst. Hughes is still the head coach and I might add he looked in decent shape.

Re: OT. Olivers Gym in Salford

Posted: 26 Oct 2009, 12:18
by chris s
tonyevs wrote:Thanks fella
Oliver has been training since the mid-90s easy I reckon. People just never noticed him until he got Jamie Moore and a few of Steve Wood's kids.

Before then he used to look after a lot of Nat Basso's journeymen. Nat must have died around 2000 and Oliver had been training kids then.

Also there was an amateur club there where loads of kids came and went so perhaps he might not be Billy Bullshit on this occasion

Re: OT. Olivers Gym in Salford

Posted: 26 Oct 2009, 18:58
by matko
im not sure of the correct story but think oliver started with a gym in chorlton in the 90's then moved to the premises in salford sometime later. He taught thai and boxing but now concentrates on boxing even thou he does teach thai to juniors. Think when jamie moved there he was the only fighter at that time but had worked with other pro fighters/amateur previous.

Re: OT. Olivers Gym in Salford

Posted: 26 Oct 2009, 21:55
by Wake up call
teddy007 wrote:Slightly going off topic but I was in a fitness first gym today in Manchester and had a brief chat with Pat Barret who he says will be taking over the training with Thomas McDonagh at the Moston & Collyhurst which is good for the CollyHurst. Hughes is still the head coach and I might add he looked in decent shape.
Brian Hughes is winding down a bit now. Can't blame him, he's nearly 70.

Re: OT. Olivers Gym in Salford

Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 00:32
by 1southpaw
can anyone train down there if so what is the times is the place open

Re: OT. Olivers Gym in Salford

Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 03:45
by teddy007
1southpaw wrote:can anyone train down there if so what is the times is the place open

It opens at 10 but remember this is a pro gym for pro boxers. You can train down there but it aint like a walk in gym, u have to train with the pro's.

Re: OT. Olivers Gym in Salford

Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 14:23
by 1southpaw
teddy007 wrote:
1southpaw wrote:can anyone train down there if so what is the times is the place open

It opens at 10 but remember this is a pro gym for pro boxers. You can train down there but it aint like a walk in gym, u have to train with the pro's.
cheers mate i'll pop down im looking for a bit of sparring so hopfully we can help each other out

Re: OT. Olivers Gym in Salford

Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 14:48
by teddy007
1southpaw wrote:
teddy007 wrote:
1southpaw wrote:can anyone train down there if so what is the times is the place open

It opens at 10 but remember this is a pro gym for pro boxers. You can train down there but it aint like a walk in gym, u have to train with the pro's.
cheers mate i'll pop down im looking for a bit of sparring so hopfully we can help each other out

What weight?

Re: OT. Olivers Gym in Salford

Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 15:23
by Asterix